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    Re: Senate rejects Trump border emergency as Republicans defect

    Quote Originally Posted by SCrider View Post
    Trumps action goes against everything "conservatives" claim to stand for. this vote should have been 100 to 0.
    Since you aren't conservative...me, neither) Conservatives believe in the rule of law. The rule of law in this case is the legislation already in existence to prevent illegal border crossings. So, you're wrong that conservatives would be against this to a person.
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    Re: Senate rejects Trump border emergency as Republicans defect

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    If he thinks it's an emergency, why did he say he "didn't need to do this"?

    You can't have it both ways.
    Don't you know?

    "I didn't need to do this" is Trump speak for ""the sky is falling".

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    Re: Senate rejects Trump border emergency as Republicans defect

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    No, that isn't what he "means". He means what he said. He didn't need to do this because it isn't an emergency - he simply wanted it to "go faster". His own words.

    If it was an emergency, it was an emergency when his party controlled Congress. He didn't declare one.


    What I have a problem with is Trump lying and Trump supporters cheering him on for it.

    Yep. It was just a means of getting around Congress, as he described it himself. When he said it I was pretty surprised since it blew his whole premise out of the water. He could have simply stuck to his original story and at least been consistent. I honestly think this is more about completing campaign promises than it is the practical nature of the project. That became evident to me when he originally talked about a wall across the entire border.

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    Re: Senate rejects Trump border emergency as Republicans defect

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Marco Rubio's father was a bartender, and his mother was a maid in Las Vegas. Now there is a Trust Fund baby if I ever saw one!
    Sons of bartenders and LV maids aren't automatically empty-headed. You must think Rubio is, empty-headed, though, making him a trust-fund baby? That's a fallacy.
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    Re: Senate rejects Trump border emergency as Republicans defect

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Just breaking.



    WASHINGTON The Republican-run Senate rejected President Donald Trump's declaration of a national emergency at the southwest border on Thursday, setting up a veto fight and dealing him a conspicuous rebuke as he tested how boldly he could ignore Congress in pursuit of his highest-profile goal.



    The Senate voted 59-41 to cancel Trump's February proclamation of a border emergency, which he invoked to spend $3.6 billion more for border barriers than Congress had approved. Twelve Republicans joined Democrats in defying Trump in a showdown many GOP senators had hoped to avoid because he commands die-hard loyalty from millions of conservative voters who could punish defecting lawmakers in next year's elections.


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    Senate rejects Trump border emergency as Republicans defect

    I am not the least bit surprised. Are you?

    Actually I am surprised that 12 Republicans voted for this. That is a huge number. I figured it would be a half dozen.
    I'm not. Trump contradicted himself by saying that he "didn't need to do this". Well if that's true, then that wouldn't make it a national emergency, yes? Idiota.
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    Re: Senate rejects Trump border emergency as Republicans defect

    Quote Originally Posted by cabse5 View Post
    Since you aren't conservative...me, neither) Conservatives believe in the rule of law. The rule of law in this case is the legislation already in existence to prevent illegal border crossings. So, you're wrong that conservatives would be against this to a person.
    Real conservatives might believe in the rule of law, but those are few and far between in Trumplandia. He has shown that beyond a shadow of a doubt.

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    Re: Senate rejects Trump border emergency as Republicans defect

    Quote Originally Posted by cabse5 View Post
    Sons of bartenders and LV maids aren't automatically empty-headed. You must think Rubio is, empty-headed, though, making him a trust-fund baby? That's a fallacy.
    Rubio was one of the ones who voted against Trump. You know - one of the Trust Fund babies.

    I don't think Rubio is empty headed at all, which is why I voted for him in the primary. And he was smart enough to cast a vote against Trump's fake national emergency.
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    Re: Senate rejects Trump border emergency as Republicans defect

    Quote Originally Posted by SCrider View Post
    Ha, the RINO attack. Party before country every time . Do you consider yourself a constitutionalist conservative?
    Your realize The Constitution is being constantly changed via SCOTUS decree and could be changed, conventionally, by an amendment vote?
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    Re: Senate rejects Trump border emergency as Republicans defect

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    No, that isn't what he "means". He means what he said. He didn't need to do this because it isn't an emergency - he simply wanted it to "go faster". His own words.

    If it was an emergency, it was an emergency when his party controlled Congress. He didn't declare one.

    What I have a problem with is Trump lying and Trump supporters cheering him on for it.
    It only became an emergency once the Dems took the House.
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    Re: Senate rejects Trump border emergency as Republicans defect

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoverness View Post
    It only became an emergency once the Dems took the House.
    You noticed that too? What a coinkydink, huh?
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