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    Re: Senate rejects Trump border emergency as Republicans defect

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    People who want border security aren't racists.

    But, particularly people who view border security problems as some kind of alarmist "national emergency", they just might be
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    Re: Senate rejects Trump border emergency as Republicans defect

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    "Not really" is what you pull out of your ass ? The Congress passed the law that allowed Trump to declare a national disaster. If the feckless Congress wants to make amends make laws to correct their their own mistakes prior.. Make laws that protect of our Sovereignty. Make laws that don't make a mockery of our illegal immigration laws. The only people looking like the feckless morons that they are it is Congress in charge of the lawmaking. This thing will be vetoed and rightfully so because our feckless Congress can't seem to do their Constitutional duty that requires them to secure our borders.
    If that's the best you can pull out of your ass, shove it right back in your ass. I have better things to do than argue with a post starting off with insults.

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    Re: Senate rejects Trump border emergency as Republicans defect

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    "Not really" is what you pull out of your ass ? The Congress passed the law that allowed Trump to declare a national disaster. If the feckless Congress wants to make amends make laws to correct their their own mistakes prior.. Make laws that protect of our Sovereignty. Make laws that don't make a mockery of our illegal immigration laws. The only people looking like the feckless morons that they are it is Congress in charge of the lawmaking. This thing will be vetoed and rightfully so because our feckless Congress can't seem to do their Constitutional duty that requires them to secure our borders.


    Repubs had the presidency, house and senate for two frickin' years, why the **** didn't they pass any of those laws?

    Noooh, they were too busy giving tax breaks to the super rich and trying to throw 20,000,000 people off of their health care.

    The borders are more secure than they have ever been in history as evidenced by the steep decline in the stats, there is no problem there, other than the humanitarian crisis that TRUMP HAS CAUSED.
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    Re: Senate rejects Trump border emergency as Republicans defect

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Just breaking.



    WASHINGTON — The Republican-run Senate rejected President Donald Trump's declaration of a national emergency at the southwest border on Thursday, setting up a veto fight and dealing him a conspicuous rebuke as he tested how boldly he could ignore Congress in pursuit of his highest-profile goal.



    The Senate voted 59-41 to cancel Trump's February proclamation of a border emergency, which he invoked to spend $3.6 billion more for border barriers than Congress had approved. Twelve Republicans joined Democrats in defying Trump in a showdown many GOP senators had hoped to avoid because he commands die-hard loyalty from millions of conservative voters who could punish defecting lawmakers in next year's elections.


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    Senate rejects Trump border emergency as Republicans defect

    I am not the least bit surprised. Are you?

    Actually I am surprised that 12 Republicans voted for this. That is a huge number. I figured it would be a half dozen.
    7 or 8 more republicans and Trump’s veto can be overridden.
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    Re: Senate rejects Trump border emergency as Republicans defect

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    "Not really" is what you pull out of your ass ? The Congress passed the law that allowed Trump to declare a national disaster. If the feckless Congress wants to make amends make laws to correct their their own mistakes prior.. Make laws that protect of our Sovereignty. Make laws that don't make a mockery of our illegal immigration laws. The only people looking like the feckless morons that they are it is Congress in charge of the lawmaking. This thing will be vetoed and rightfully so because our feckless Congress can't seem to do their Constitutional duty that requires them to secure our borders.
    Their Constitutional duty is to control the power of the purse.
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    Re: Senate rejects Trump border emergency as Republicans defect

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    "Not really" is what you pull out of your ass ? The Congress passed the law that allowed Trump to declare a national disaster. If the feckless Congress wants to make amends make laws to correct their their own mistakes prior.. Make laws that protect of our Sovereignty. Make laws that don't make a mockery of our illegal immigration laws. The only people looking like the feckless morons that they are it is Congress in charge of the lawmaking. This thing will be vetoed and rightfully so because our feckless Congress can't seem to do their Constitutional duty that requires them to secure our borders.
    Well, this is totally not surprising.

    You seem to think a president can call a state of national emergency in order to divert previously allocated funds to his vanity project, even though BY HIS OWN ADMISSION he didn't have to do it, he just wanted to move the process along a little faster. This is fine with you. And, according to you, Congress is "feckless" for not letting him do exactly that. What the hell is wrong with you?

    You might as well live on another planet if you think this is how government should work.
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    Re: Senate rejects Trump border emergency as Republicans defect

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    With 59 votes against, I imagine there's a little bit of fretting going on in the White House about a possible veto override. The last thing any President wants to do, but especially one as concerned with vanity as this one, is to have a veto overridden, but especially with his party in the majority.

    I don't know if they could get to the magic number to override, but I bet there will be a lot of work being done behind the scenes.
    The Senate plans to let the House Republicans kill this joint resolution override.

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    Re: Senate rejects Trump border emergency as Republicans defect

    Quote Originally Posted by MauiMan View Post
    7 or 8 more republicans and Trump’s veto can be overridden.
    True, but I don't think there are that many republicans with the balls to buck Trump's threats/blackmail and vote to override his veto. If there were, they would have voted to block, and made it clear that the Senate had the numbers to override, making his veto useless; they didn't.

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    Re: Senate rejects Trump border emergency as Republicans defect

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The majority of the country supports Trump on this. He'll benefit from this greatly.
    The majority of the country does not support him on this. But nice try.
    They are well aware this could bite them in the behind when the Dems have the senate and White House again.
    I hope we do a national emergency on climate change, don't you???
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    Re: Senate rejects Trump border emergency as Republicans defect

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    True, but I don't think there are that many republicans with the balls to buck Trump's threats/blackmail and vote to override his veto. If there were, they would have voted to block, and made it clear that the Senate had the numbers to override, making his veto useless; they didn't.
    Let's hold out some hope, please. The GOP may be as overrun with idiots as the opposing party, but there is a difference when voting to override a veto. That one takes extra balls (if you'll excuse the phrase) and I think it's pretty obvious the senate isn't overrun with an abundance of strength.

    I grant that it's a slim hope, but there are a couple repubs that I'm surprised voted for Trump this time. Maybe they take the second chance?

    I'm also not 100% that Trump takes the chance. The man has shown he can cave when his vanity is at risk. Imagine how he will feel if his veto is shown worthless.
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