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    Re: Senate rejects Trump border emergency as Republicans defect

    Quote Originally Posted by Roadvirus View Post
    And how many of their constituents have had their lives cut short by illegal immigrants?
    I give up. How many? How many people were killed in Maine in the last 3 years by illegals? Alaska? Utah? You tell me.

    I'll bet some of them have had their lives cut short by guns. Do you suggest they declare gun violence a national emergency?
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    Re: Senate rejects Trump border emergency as Republicans defect

    Quote Originally Posted by Anagram View Post
    Anyone have a list of the 12? I can't find an article that lists all of them and the vote's not up on the Senate website yet.
    I'd bet anything Romney was one of them. Here's a guy who didn't have the spine to stand up to candy
    crowley during the debates & don't trust him to have a spine to defend and protect the american people.
    He will never be elected to any position outside the Mormon enclave known as Utah.

    I think like Mrs. Clinton he's still hoping for another chance at the presidency. Some one should convince Mittens
    to simply BUY AN ISLAND and declare himself "King Mitt". He could easily purchase one
    of the Cayman Islands.

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    Re: Senate rejects Trump border emergency as Republicans defect

    Quote Originally Posted by holbritter View Post
    No I'm not. And neither are you.
    I didn't say I was the last word in poll validity but I do believe in statistical analysis and don't dismiss polls because I find the results inconvenient. You instead, suggested the absurd idea that unless everyone is polled, it isn't valid.
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    Re: Senate rejects Trump border emergency as Republicans defect

    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense 1 View Post
    They should leave this to the experts and the experts say barriers are needed. A barrier is need to slow down the flow of illegals crossing out Southern border everyday.
    Are you saying you want shock collars on every illegal alien trying to cross the border? That is how an invisible fence works. Gues you don't understand the concept do you. A truly silly response!!!
    Note: An 'invisible barrier' is an actual barrier. I am certain now, that even though I thought I'd made it quite clear what constitutes a barrier whether physical or technological, your brain is incapable of processing this information and it never will be.

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    Re: Senate rejects Trump border emergency as Republicans defect

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The majority of the country supports Trump on this. He'll benefit from this greatly.
    After stating he "didn't really need to do it [state of emergency]", the only folks who will believe him are those who are so on board with him it wouldn't matter what lies he told them.

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    Re: Senate rejects Trump border emergency as Republicans defect

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    With the exception of ME, which was split every Senator represents a state which voted for Trump. Meaning they voted for the wall. Meaning that Trump using this common tactic to get that done is pretty much OK by the people who these Senator's represent. (implicitly)

    So what this tells me is that these senators either are carrying their own agenda or are the same sort that bent over and let Obama and Reid have their way with them for 8 years, which means, they all need to go.
    So....are you guys just gonna declare a purge on your party's unbelievers or what?

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    Re: Senate rejects Trump border emergency as Republicans defect

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    With the exception of ME, which was split every Senator represents a state which voted for Trump. Meaning they voted for the wall. Meaning that Trump using this common tactic to get that done is pretty much OK by the people who these Senator's represent. (implicitly)

    So what this tells me is that these senators either are carrying their own agenda or are the same sort that bent over and let Obama and Reid have their way with them for 8 years, which means, they all need to go.
    Good luck with that. Romney just took office 2 months ago. How should he be removed?
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    Re: Senate rejects Trump border emergency as Republicans defect

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The majority of the country supports Trump on this. He'll benefit from this greatly.
    Kindly back up that statement with 3rd party support.

    Last time I checked, 31% is not considered a majority.

    National (US) Poll - March 6, 2019 - U.S. Voters Oppose Trump Emerg | Quinnipiac University Connecticut

    If you actually have some facts or other evidence to support your statement, we all want to see it. Otherwise, we can only conclude that you, like many Trump supporters, are ill-informed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Roadvirus View Post
    And how many of their constituents have had their lives cut short by illegal immigrants?
    Far, far less in aggregate or per capita, than were killed by native born Americans. Perhaps we should round up all native borns and ship them to Mexico? yes, that is absurd, but so was your point.
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    Re: Senate rejects Trump border emergency as Republicans defect

    Quote Originally Posted by gulfman View Post
    This sends a clear message to 12 Republicans who won't be reelected
    ^ A conservative purity test.
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    Re: Senate rejects Trump border emergency as Republicans defect

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Interesting that both Houses of Congress just voted that THEY passed unconstitutional legislation granting the President Emergency power - something they apparently didn't realize with President Obama and President Bush used it.

    So, should everyone in Congress who voted for the Emergency Powers Act be impeached and removed for defying the US Constitution when they passed that law?
    Here the way I see it:

    This group I see little problem with: Blunt, Moran, Lee, Paul, Portman, Toomey & Wicker who voted
    against dangerous new precedent, but are for the border wall.

    Collins, Murkowski on decisive issues vote with Trump only about 50% of the time. He can never
    really count on their votes on important issues

    Alexander: I doubt even he realizes what's going on

    Rubio wants to appeal to the RINO & independents to further his presidential fantasies

    While Romney is a never-trumped to the core, a globalist who beats to the drum of Bill Crystal
    morl likely to be seen on MSNBC or CNN than any other Republican in congress.

    As for the Democrats there in two camps: One camp wants open borders as they see new votes
    that will keep Democrats in power for all the decades to come.
    They other camp are the blacks & their allies from the new ethic groups who to this point are allied
    with the Democratic elites who have championed the rise of new ethnics like OAC, Tlied & Omar
    into the fold.

    It's my guess that the democrat elites seem to take pleasure of the dispossession
    of their own ethnic group. It is a disease of the heart that never afflicted the America of Andrew Jackson,
    Teddy Roosevelt or Dwight Eisenhower.

    The prime architect of this ethnomasochism was Susan Sontag.

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