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Facebook's Data Deals Are Under Criminal Investigation

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Facebook’s Data Deals Are Under Criminal Investigation - The New York Times



When will people realize they are being rolled by big data collections.
Me I trust the Govt more than Big Bus on protecting my privacy

Depends on who you want to have that information.

Businesses will use the information to sell and advertise to you.

How does history show governments use their citizens' most intimate details?
 
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I participate on Facebook knowing it's one giant data-accumulation ****-show, and act accordingly. Anybody who writes anything on Facebook or on any of their other platforms that they want to be private are in for a rude awakening.

Where it gets simply unfair is with the apps that aren't known to be owned by Facebook.

In any case, I hope FB gets its ass nailed to the wall. It's such an unapologetically evil company.

Do you honestly believe that Facebook's data collection is limited to its website and apps? :doh
 
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Many people are angry these tech companies like Google and Facebook are collecting our information but let's not forget, government has been collecting our information forever.

I trust tech companies more than I do the government. Tech companies like FB and Google have a history of making a profit. The government does not.


You trust a company that makes a profit using personal information on you, more than the government that does not make a profit using personal information on you. Weird.
 
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I have an account but don't use my real name or any identifiable information. Anything I post, I post knowing that it could be used by a third party. There is zero privacy there.

Has anyone noticed that, over the years, we have basically transitioned all of our important communications - news media, personal contacts, private messages, information of all kinds - to private corporations? That's really what social media has done. I know people who won't even communicate by e-mail anymore, they do everything on Facebook. (It's the reason I have an account, so I can get in touch with these people.) Even our President "tweets" his updates now.

How can the First Amendment really function properly in a private environment???

Not using your real name or any identifiable information or your real name really doesn't do much you have the illusion that you aren't being tracked. Even Incognito and VPN's only help a little.
 
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Well Big Bus, data mining is to make money.

Of course it is, and so is small business about making money, and so if having a job about making money.

The invasion of ones life is immense. An open human market and what one can do with all that info.

Indeed, the "invasion" is immense. That's what happens when bureaucracies get efficient.

If you stand to lose "market share" if you are not efficient you have an incentive to become efficient.

The last time that "The Government" lost "market share" in the US was during the 1765 – 1783 period (although there was a risk of it losing "market share" in the 1861 – 65 period).
 
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Depends on who you want to have that information.

Businesses will use the information to sell and advertise to you.

How does history show governments use their citizens' most intimate details?

Given a sufficiently large data base, the inclusion or exclusion of a single individual becomes almost totally irrelevant.
 
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We all have an option, if you don't want them collecting any data on you(usually it is data to target ads at you), then don't join facebook or Instagram, it is quite simple. However, we don't have that option with the government.
 
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Do you honestly believe that Facebook's data collection is limited to its website and apps? :doh

If you're talking about the cookies that track you from site to site, I have anti-trackers for those.
 
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If you're talking about the cookies that track you from site to site, I have anti-trackers for those.

I'm not talking about cookies, those are to keep the people with anti-trackers thinking they are "safe".
 
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I'm not talking about cookies, those are to keep the people with anti-trackers thinking they are "safe".

And you can prove this?
 
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Depends, are you able to google 'fingerprinting'?

I know what fingerprinting is.

I don't have a good answer for that since there are only so many ways I can defeat fingerprinting (canvas blockers that spoof fingerprints have limited effectiveness). But if you're going down that route (and to be fair there's no reason you shouldn't) then you'd have to confront the entire problem of fingerprinting than just Facebook.
 
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I know what fingerprinting is.

I don't have a good answer for that since there are only so many ways I can defeat fingerprinting (canvas blockers that spoof fingerprints have limited effectiveness). But if you're going down that route (and to be fair there's no reason you shouldn't) then you'd have to confront the entire problem of fingerprinting than just Facebook.

I wasn't discussing beyond Facebook, they are just one of the most pervasive and playing fast and loose with permissions even beyond their website and apps, which was the main part of that point. I don't want to go too in depth due to forum sensitivities.
 
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I'm glad that there is some common ground between liberals, moderates, conservatives, and libertarians on this issue. The only reason why I'm on Facebook right now is because it's one of the only ways to get a hold of people anymore. The whole point of social media in general is to stay in touch with friends. But you have people addicted to it and use it only as a means to get popular, the purpose is rendered useless. Then you have people that work at these social media centers who take advantage of these and get all sorts of data on people. Privacy doesn't mean much when you're posting your whole life for the entire world to see. At the same time, when you have a company like Facebook saying they're not collecting personal information outside of what's posted, then there's a ton of evidence that says they're full of it, there's major questions to be asked. So obviously, it's far worse when a big tech company like that pulls shenanigans like collecting personal information.

Had it not been for my friends and family, I would be off Facebook. Not only is it annoying that people from high school are posting up their "perfect lives", but I don't want to support a business that sticks their nose in places where it doesn't belong. In many ways, Facebook has been become more powerful than the federal government in terms of collecting information, and it's very easy to do on their end. All they have to do is pull up one their users, and simply "hack" into their account. It's disturbing just to know that.

On a personal and somewhat off topic note, I miss the days of MySpace where people actually used to just keep in touch with friends and not show-and-tell the whole world how their fake perfect life has been going. Even though personal interaction (at the same place and time) is still the best, this was at least a fun way to stay in the loop of what's been going on in everyone's lives. At least a phone call would be nice. We didn't worry about someone from the organization, to my knowledge, collecting data on someone they might disagree with. Oh well. I wonder who still has a Myspace account. Might be worth a check to see if mine is still active. Anyway, it's refreshing to see people come together on this, regardless of political affiliation.
 
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So I'm brainwashed because I question having a corporate intermediary as our means of conveying all our information? Ok there.

Jeff Bezos has a $600 million deal with the CIA, owns the Wa Post and sits on the Defense Innovation Advisory Board. ME thinks Facebook is not really a threat.

Also, you talk crap about Facebook, there is no retaliation. You try to bring up the crimes within the United States government, they will throw you in jail via the Espionage Act
 
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Jeff Bezos has a $600 million deal with the CIA, owns the Wa Post and sits on the Defense Innovation Advisory Board. ME thinks Facebook is not really a threat.

That would, of course, depend on your definition of "a threat", wouldn't it?

Also, you talk crap about Facebook, there is no retaliation. You try to bring up the crimes within the United States government, they will throw you in jail via the Espionage Act

I read that, and thought that you were joking (or ill informed).

Then I read "New US Espionage Act prosecution has troubling implications for press freedom", and changed my mind.
 
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