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    China taking lead to ground Boeing 737 MAX 8 signals challenge to US authority ...

    From The South China Morning Post

    China taking lead to ground Boeing 737 MAX 8 signals challenge to US authority in worldwide civil aviation

    When China on Monday became the first country to order all Boeing 737 MAX 8 planes grounded in the aftermath of the Ethiopian Airlines crash the previous day, its aviation regulator sent an unmistakable signal: the US Federal Aviation Administration is no longer the only authority in civil aviation worldwide.

    After China ordered a dozen carriers to ground their 96 planes Ė about a quarter of all 737 MAX aircraft in operation globally Ė authorities in Ethiopia, Indonesia, Mongolia, Morocco and Singapore quickly followed suit, along with carriers in Latin America and South Korea.

    Despite the FAA issuing a statement backing the Boeing jetís airworthiness, the European Union grounded the model on Tuesday, as did at least 10 other countries, with authorities saying the aircraft would not be allowed to fly to or from their countries pending the investigation.

    Chinaís move, unprecedented for a government that once took cues from the FAA, was motivated by what Chinese officials and pilots said was months of equivocation from US officials and Boeing in response to safety inquiries from China after a 737 MAX 8 flight crashed in Indonesia in October.

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    An interesting take on the matter, eh wot?

    I mean, who do those Chinese think they are to doubt the word of the President of the United States of America, the US government, and Boeing (not necessarily in that order)?
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    Re: China taking lead to ground Boeing 737 MAX 8 signals challenge to US authority ...

    I think it more likely means that China and the US are in the middle of trade negotiations and the Chinese government seized an opportunity to gain leverage.
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    Re: China taking lead to ground Boeing 737 MAX 8 signals challenge to US authority ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    I think it more likely means that China and the US are in the middle of trade negotiations and the Chinese government seized an opportunity to gain leverage.
    Got to admit it was a very slick play on their part.
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    Re: China taking lead to ground Boeing 737 MAX 8 signals challenge to US authority ...

    Quote Originally Posted by TU Curmudgeon View Post
    From The South China Morning Post

    China taking lead to ground Boeing 737 MAX 8 signals challenge to US authority in worldwide civil aviation

    When China on Monday became the first country to order all Boeing 737 MAX 8 planes grounded in the aftermath of the Ethiopian Airlines crash the previous day, its aviation regulator sent an unmistakable signal: the US Federal Aviation Administration is no longer the only authority in civil aviation worldwide.

    After China ordered a dozen carriers to ground their 96 planes – about a quarter of all 737 MAX aircraft in operation globally – authorities in Ethiopia, Indonesia, Mongolia, Morocco and Singapore quickly followed suit, along with carriers in Latin America and South Korea.

    Despite the FAA issuing a statement backing the Boeing jet’s airworthiness, the European Union grounded the model on Tuesday, as did at least 10 other countries, with authorities saying the aircraft would not be allowed to fly to or from their countries pending the investigation.

    China’s move, unprecedented for a government that once took cues from the FAA, was motivated by what Chinese officials and pilots said was months of equivocation from US officials and Boeing in response to safety inquiries from China after a 737 MAX 8 flight crashed in Indonesia in October.

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    An interesting take on the matter, eh wot?

    I mean, who do those Chinese think they are to doubt the word of the President of the United States of America, the US government, and Boeing (not necessarily in that order)?
    In what way is that a "challenge" to US authority?
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    Re: China taking lead to ground Boeing 737 MAX 8 signals challenge to US authority ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    I think it more likely means that China and the US are in the middle of trade negotiations and the Chinese government seized an opportunity to gain leverage.
    Yes, that's likely it.
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    Re: China taking lead to ground Boeing 737 MAX 8 signals challenge to US authority ...

    This is not a challenge to US authority, China has every reason to govern their own and if they feel like grounding the entire 737 max 8 fleet then so be it.
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    Re: China taking lead to ground Boeing 737 MAX 8 signals challenge to US authority ...

    Quote Originally Posted by TU Curmudgeon View Post

    An interesting take on the matter, eh wot?

    I mean, who do those Chinese think they are to doubt the word of the President of the United States of America, the US government, and Boeing (not necessarily in that order)?
    An interesting take on it and no doubt with some merit. First and foremost what happens when a commercial aircraft has a few accidents in a short space is the country's FAA or equivalent grounds them (if not airports, operators or a manufacturer's recommendation). But since apparently Boeing's chief called Trump, there's no need to ground their new plane in the US. Other countries have to take the lead.

    But I doubt it was lost on the Chinese that they'd be taking the lead in America's absence, thereby as with trade, looking like the adults in the room. They'll happily steal America's thunder while it is led by a buffoon who's asleep at the wheel.

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    Re: China taking lead to ground Boeing 737 MAX 8 signals challenge to US authority ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    I think it more likely means that China and the US are in the middle of trade negotiations and the Chinese government seized an opportunity to gain leverage.
    Could be

    Trump: US grounding Boeing 737 Max 8, 9 after Ethiopia crash

    Might even have worked.
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    Re: China taking lead to ground Boeing 737 MAX 8 signals challenge to US authority ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    In what way is that a "challenge" to US authority?
    Why because the Chinese took exception to the FAA finding that there was a danger.

    Don't worry, Mr. Trump has resolved the matter.
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    Re: China taking lead to ground Boeing 737 MAX 8 signals challenge to US authority ...

    Quote Originally Posted by uptower View Post
    An interesting take on it and no doubt with some merit. First and foremost what happens when a commercial aircraft has a few accidents in a short space is the country's FAA or equivalent grounds them (if not airports, operators or a manufacturer's recommendation). But since apparently Boeing's chief called Trump, there's no need to ground their new plane in the US. Other countries have to take the lead.

    But I doubt it was lost on the Chinese that they'd be taking the lead in America's absence, thereby as with trade, looking like the adults in the room. They'll happily steal America's thunder while it is led by a buffoon who's asleep at the wheel.
    What "steal(ing) America's thunder", Mr. Trump has taken the lead in the matter and no one is going to pay any attention to what the Chinese did AFTER Mr. Trump solved the whole thing.
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