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Paul Manafort Sentencing

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Paul Manafort Sentencing

The hearing is ongoing, the sentence has not been given yet. I think she will hand him a maximum sentence.

Some key remarks by the sentencing judge below:

Ludge to Manafort: Prison is "hard on everyone, young and old, rich or poor"

Judge Amy Berman Jackson is now correcting statements made about Paul Manafort's solitary confinement, which was a significant feature of his allocution today.

She said he was in jail not for violating the gag order, but because he broke the bail by breaking the law after his arrest.

Jackson reminded the court he was first sent to Northern Neck Regional Jail, saying she was concerned about how far that jail was, but then Manafort's team asked for that location. Then he was moved to Alexandria because of their complaints.
She said Manafort "realized the tactic had backfired immediately." He was in a self-contained ("VIP") suite in Northern Neck, Jackson added.
"I'm not going to split hairs over whether the word solitary was accurate because he had a room of his own," Jackson said.

Judge says today's sentencing "will not incriminate anyone"
At the top of her remarks, Judge Amy Berman Jackson was quick to say that today's sentencing "will not incriminate anyone" in the ongoing investigation.
"Any conspiracy, collusion... was not presented in this case," she said. "Therefore it was not resolved by this case."
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trixare4kids said:
Paul Manafort Sentencing

The hearing is ongoing, the sentence has not been given yet. I think she will hand him a maximum sentence.

Some key remarks by the sentencing judge below:

Judge to Manafort: Prison is "hard on everyone, young and old, rich or poor"
Judge Amy Berman Jackson is now correcting statements made about Paul Manafort's solitary confinement, which was a significant feature of his allocution today.

She said he was in jail not for violating the gag order, but because he broke the bail by breaking the law after his arrest.

Jackson reminded the court he was first sent to Northern Neck Regional Jail, saying she was concerned about how far that jail was, but then Manafort's team asked for that location. Then he was moved to Alexandria because of their complaints.

She said Manafort "realized the tactic had backfired immediately." He was in a self-contained ("VIP") suite in Northern Neck, Jackson added.

"I'm not going to split hairs over whether the word solitary was accurate because he had a room of his own," Jackson said.


Judge says today's sentencing "will not incriminate anyone"
At the top of her remarks, Judge Amy Berman Jackson was quick to say that today's sentencing "will not incriminate anyone" in the ongoing investigation.

"Any conspiracy, collusion... was not presented in this case," she said. "Therefore it was not resolved by this case."
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Count 1: 60 months, with 30 months concurrent to EDVA sentence
Count 2: 13 months, to run to consecutive to Count 1 and EDVA sentence

Result? 43 months added to Manafort's 47-month EDVA sentence

So 7.5 years.
 
According to CNN...
Live updates: Paul Manafort sentenced - CNNPolitics

Judge Amy Berman Jackson has ordered Paul Manafort to serve an additional 43 months in prison, on top of his sentence he received last week from the court in Virginia.
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Comments? Enough or too little?

It was said that he could face up to ten years in prison atop the 43 months received last week.
 
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trixare4kids said:
Paul Manafort Sentencing

The hearing is ongoing, the sentence has not been given yet. I think she will hand him a maximum sentence.

Some key remarks by the sentencing judge below:
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Apparently she got him on obstruction/witness tampering, and by segregating that as separate crimes from those in VA, she took the step of having the sentencing portion of those crimes run consecutively - rather than concurrently.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
Count 1: 60 months, with 30 months concurrent to EDVA sentence
Count 2: 13 months, to run to consecutive to Count 1 and EDVA sentence

Result? 43 months added to Manafort's 47-month EDVA sentence

So 7.5 years.
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Fine with me, he will die in prison anyway.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
Count 1: 60 months, with 30 months concurrent to EDVA sentence
Count 2: 13 months, to run to consecutive to Count 1 and EDVA sentence

Result? 43 months added to Manafort's 47-month EDVA sentence

So 7.5 years.
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I believe the max he could've received was 10 so... 7.5, not getting off so light this time Manny-boy.
 
I think Judge Jackson's sentencing appears fair.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
Count 1: 60 months, with 30 months concurrent to EDVA sentence
Count 2: 13 months, to run to consecutive to Count 1 and EDVA sentence

Result? 43 months added to Manafort's 47-month EDVA sentence

So 7.5 years.
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Enough or too little?
 
They really slammed him. :lamo
 
trixare4kids said:
Comments? Enough or too little?

It was said that he could face up to ten years in prison atop the 43 months received last week.
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It seems low in light of his crimes, his total lack of acknowledgment of culpability, and the extraordinary lengths to which he deceived investigators and the courts. I'm not a Federal Prosecutor (obviously) so my understanding of the broader context is clearly limited, but it's difficult not to come away with the conclusion that the circus-like nature of his trials contributed to his low sentence. It's also difficult not to suspect that the low sentence is motivated in some part by the hope that it would defeat any argument in favor of a pardon.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
Let's hope so. The man is vermin, having made at least $60 mil from dictators off human misery.
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Exactly. How many died and suffered at the hands of those he helped empower?

And he worked directly against the U.S. government/American people; which would make it even more hideous if our President pardons him.
 
For anyone who wants to listen to an extremely nerdy discussion on Federal sentencing as it pertains to Manafort, there is an excellent discussion between Renato Mariotti and Ken White (AKA "Popehat") on the March 9 episode of Mariotti's podcast.

On Topic with Renato Mariotti

Fair warning: when two lawyers start discussing the law, it inevitably gets deep into the weeds and can at times be a little tough for the uninitiated to follow.
 
Cardinal said:
It seems low in light of his crimes, his total lack of acknowledgment of culpability, and the extraordinary lengths to which he deceived investigators and the courts. I'm not a Federal Prosecutor (obviously) so my understanding of the broader context is clearly limited, but it's difficult not to come away with the conclusion that the circus-like nature of his trials contributed to his low sentence. It's also difficult not to suspect that the low sentence is motivated in some part by the hope that it would defeat any argument in favor of a pardon.
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I'm shocked.
I thought he would get a whole lot more, and yes, he deserves the maximum sentence.
 
Another light sentance, however at least she made it clear that there are very likely coordination, conspiracy and other charges that he is still on the hook for...
 
Were both of Manafort’s trials in Federal Court?

Eastern District of Virginia is State Court, and would not be eligible for Presidential pardon; or am I missing something?
 
So the campaign chairman of Donald Trump just received 7.5 years of federal prison. Trump's personal attorney is going to jail for 3 years. Pretty extraordinary.
 
Cardinal said:
It seems low in light of his crimes, his total lack of acknowledgment of culpability, and the extraordinary lengths to which he deceived investigators and the courts. I'm not a Federal Prosecutor (obviously) so my understanding of the broader context is clearly limited, but it's difficult not to come away with the conclusion that the circus-like nature of his trials didn't contribute to his low sentence. It's also difficult not to suspect that the low sentence is motivated in some part by the hope that it would defeat any argument in favor of a pardon.
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In the EDVA Manafort could have gotten up to 25 years, he ended up getting four years. In DC he could have gotten ten years, but he got 3.5 instead.

Sorry, Jackson was as bad as Ellis. She let him off way to easily for his offenses. She knew he obstructed, tampered, and lied throughout his case, and she knew he was not really remorseful, either. She said she didn't buy his act, yet she came down 55% on his sentence.

Yeah, 7.5 years is no fun park, but it still wasn't ANYWHERE near what Manafort deserved.

I also feel Mueller's team let themselves get played here. Manafort should have never had his EDVA hung charges and so much of his DC sentence dropped, when they knew he was still in cahoots with the WH. That was just a big mistake, no matter how hard it is to see past Mueller's mythic status.
 
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