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    Dozens of people have been charged in a nationwide college admissions cheating and athletic recruitment scheme, federal officials announced Tuesday.

    U.S. Attorney Andrew E. Lelling said 50 people have been charged in the alleged scheme, including 33 parents who “paid enormous sums” to guarantee their children’s admission into elite schools.

    Prominent entertainers, business owners and college coaches are implicated in the scandal that involves boosting SAT scores and bribing college administrators, according to the criminal complaint.

    Prosecutors say parents paid admissions consultant William Singer, of Newport Beach, Calif., $25 million from 2011 through Feb. 2019 to bribe coaches and administrators to label their children as recruited athletes to boost their chances of getting into schools.

    According to information provided by FBI/DoJ officials in the press conference aired live on CNN, the parents, on average, paid between $250K and $400K for Singer's services. (I can't find the live coverage online, only an article.) The maximum sum spent was ~$6M.

    The NY Post reports that one parent paid $500K to have "their two daughters designated as recruits to the USC crew team — despite the fact that they did not participate in crew — thereby facilitating their admission to USC." Other parents paid to have an associate of Singer's to obtain a given SAT exam score.



    What I find most astounding about this cabal of college entrance corruption is that it appears a fair quantity of the parents who participated in it spent sums that, were they done the way wealthy folks have for ages ensured their academically mediocre kids admission to prestigious institutions -- by making a generous donation -- they'd have spent about the same sum and not be facing prosecution.

    I mean, really. If one's got half a million or more to "blow," donate it to help fund a teaching award, endow a chair or help renovate a wing or hallway or something. The school will admit one's child in return.
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    From "Actresses, prominent business owners charged in nationwide college admissions cheating scandal":

    Dozens of people have been charged in a nationwide college admissions cheating and athletic recruitment scheme, federal officials announced Tuesday.

    U.S. Attorney Andrew E. Lelling said 50 people have been charged in the alleged scheme, including 33 parents who “paid enormous sums” to guarantee their children’s admission into elite schools.

    Prominent entertainers, business owners and college coaches are implicated in the scandal that involves boosting SAT scores and bribing college administrators, according to the criminal complaint.

    Prosecutors say parents paid admissions consultant William Singer, of Newport Beach, Calif., $25 million from 2011 through Feb. 2019 to bribe coaches and administrators to label their children as recruited athletes to boost their chances of getting into schools.

    According to information provided by FBI/DoJ officials in the press conference aired live on CNN, the parents, on average, paid between $250K and $400K for Singer's services. (I can't find the live coverage online, only an article.)

    The NY Post reports that one parent paid $500K to have "their two daughters designated as recruits to the USC crew team — despite the fact that they did not participate in crew — thereby facilitating their admission to USC." Other parents paid to have an associate of Singer's to obtain a given SAT exam score.



    What I find most astounding about this cabal of college entrance corruption is that it appears a fair quantity of the parents who participated in it spent sums that, were they done the way wealthy folks have for ages ensured their academically mediocre kids admission to prestigious institutions -- by making a generous donation -- they'd have spent about the same sum and not be facing prosecution.

    I mean, really. If one's got half a million or more to "blow," donate it to help fund a teaching award, endow a chair or help renovate a wing or hallway or something. The school will admit one's child in return.
    You'd be OK with this if the school was bribed directly?

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    Re: Actresses, prominent business owners charged in nationwide college admissions cheating scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    You'd be OK with this if the school was bribed directly?
    I wouldn't be okay with bribery of any sort. Bribery is criminal; I don't condone criminal conduct.

    The difference is that "usual" way of doing things, if one feels one must, lacks the quid pro quo concomitant with bribery. One merely makes the donation and trusts that it's enough to get one's kid admitted.
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    Re: Actresses, prominent business owners charged in nationwide college admissions cheating scandal

    LOL hilarious... this has been going on for over a century and NOW they want to do something about it? For **** sake the guy in the White House got himself and his kids into "big" schools with bribes.....Bush Jr got in, and so on. It is common knowledge that the rich pay for their kids access to so called good schools regardless of test scores and in some cases actually pay said schools to give their kids good grades /wave Trump.
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    Re: Actresses, prominent business owners charged in nationwide college admissions cheating scandal

    Thornton Mellon School of Business!


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    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    LOL hilarious... this has been going on for over a century and NOW they want to do something about it? For **** sake the guy in the White House got himself and his kids into "big" schools with bribes.....Bush Jr got in, and so on. It is common knowledge that the rich pay for their kids access to so called good schools regardless of test scores and in some cases actually pay said schools to give their kids good grades /wave Trump.
    Dont you think people should go to jail for this?

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    Re: Actresses, prominent business owners charged in nationwide college admissions cheating scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by Omega Man View Post
    Thornton Mellon School of Business!


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    Now for that, you'll get some respect.




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    Re: Actresses, prominent business owners charged in nationwide college admissions cheating scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    LOL hilarious... this has been going on for over a century and NOW they want to do something about it? For **** sake the guy in the White House got himself and his kids into "big" schools with bribes.....Bush Jr got in, and so on. It is common knowledge that the rich pay for their kids access to so called good schools regardless of test scores and in some cases actually pay said schools to give their kids good grades /wave Trump.
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    Those who both need to and are willing to do. Those who have neither will nor need to do so don't.


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    That isn't something I've ever heard even so much as a credible whisper of having happened. I'm aware of the reverse -- schools paying students for scoring well on assignments -- being a new initiative in some public school districts.
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    Re: Actresses, prominent business owners charged in nationwide college admissions cheating scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by Omega Man View Post
    Thornton Mellon School of Business!


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    Off-topic:
    Really, a Rodney Dangerfield reference. Nice, but I think the gravamen at issue in this thread is a bit more serious than that.
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    Re: Actresses, prominent business owners charged in nationwide college admissions cheating scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    Dont you think people should go to jail for this?

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    Good question.

    I believe in the rule of law, but in this case the "rule of law" has been pissed on for as long as there has been an USA...so the practice has been accepted by society.

    So it is a bit pathetic going after these people for something large parts of the 1% have been doing forever.

    Now that they are doing it..a large fine based on income and community service. No reason to clog up American prisons with more people who should not be there along side rapists and similar.

    But again it rubs one the wrong way when these people pay the so called price and others who clearly did the same thing..go free. I mean many of them have buildings named after them on campus and you ain't gonna tell me that was done out of the kindness of their heart....

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