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    Ocasio-Cortez, at SXSW, blasts FDR, Reagan and capitalism, says political moderates are 'meh'

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    The new face of today's Democratic Party and an old face of socialism rearing its ugly head again. Failure just doesn't resonate with the left on any issue. Let the dumbing down of America continue and class envy, jealousy and warfare thrive

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    Re: Ocasio-Cortez, at SXSW, blasts FDR, Reagan and capitalism, says political moderates are 'meh'

    When she says something like this...

    “The most important thing is the concentration of capital, and it means that we prioritize profit and the accumulation of money above all else, and we seek it at any human and environmental cost… But when we talk about ideas like democratic socialism, it means putting democracy and society first, instead of capital first; it doesn’t mean that the actual concept of capitalistic society should be abolished,” she said.
    And then I see something like this...

    “One of the keys to dismantling fear is dismantling a zero-sum mentality,” Ocasio-Cortez replied. “It means the rejection outright of the logic that says someone else’s gain necessitates my loss and that my gain must necessitate someone’s loss. We can give without a take. We’re viewing progress as a loss instead of as an investment. When we choose to invest in our system, we are choosing to create wealth. When we all invest in them, then the wealth is for all of us too.”
    All I can think of about that bolded part vs the second quote is "BULL****!" She may be be saying its not about abolishing capitalism...but everything that she's espousing are things that will end up abolishing it in the end. Maybe if we lived in a Star Trek like society I could see a need for abolishing capitalism. But we don't. We do not have replicators which would allow such. Such would be a main component needed for an actual socialist society to succeed that didn't end up in thousands or millions of deaths.

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    Re: Ocasio-Cortez, at SXSW, blasts FDR, Reagan and capitalism, says political moderates are 'meh'

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    When she says something like this...



    And then I see something like this...



    All I can think of about that bolded part vs the second quote is "BULL****!" She may be be saying its not about abolishing capitalism...but everything that she's espousing are things that will end up abolishing it in the end. Maybe if we lived in a Star Trek like society I could see a need for abolishing capitalism. But we don't. We do not have replicators which would allow such. Such would be a main component needed for an actual socialist society to succeed that didn't end up in thousands or millions of deaths.
    Anyone familiar with history would know that people like AOC led to the birth of Communism and Socialism and we all know the end results of both. She is appealing to the fringe radicals but unfortunately a growing number of malcontents that buy the rhetoric and ignore the end results. All one needs to do is look at Venezuela now

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    Re: Ocasio-Cortez, at SXSW, blasts FDR, Reagan and capitalism, says political moderates are 'meh'

    You guys are f*cking obsessed with her.

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    Re: Ocasio-Cortez, at SXSW, blasts FDR, Reagan and capitalism, says political moderates are 'meh'

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    When she says something like this...



    And then I see something like this...



    All I can think of about that bolded part vs the second quote is "BULL****!" She may be be saying its not about abolishing capitalism...but everything that she's espousing are things that will end up abolishing it in the end. Maybe if we lived in a Star Trek like society I could see a need for abolishing capitalism. But we don't. We do not have replicators which would allow such. Such would be a main component needed for an actual socialist society to succeed that didn't end up in thousands or millions of deaths.
    You're right. AOC is anti-capitalist and want to grab what others have made and earned to redistribute wealth. AOC is lurching the Left further into identity politics and the culture of victimhood (which is to say intersectionality) and pitting whites vs. everyone else.

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    Re: Ocasio-Cortez, at SXSW, blasts FDR, Reagan and capitalism, says political moderates are 'meh'

    Quote Originally Posted by Aristaeus View Post
    You guys are f*cking obsessed with her.
    Your lean says it all, she is your dream candidate that will create that socialist utopia that doesn't exist anywhere else in the world but you and your ilk are going to make it work in this greatest country on the face of the earth and destroy the economic policies that made it great. How are things in Oz?

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    Re: Ocasio-Cortez, at SXSW, blasts FDR, Reagan and capitalism, says political moderates are 'meh'

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Anyone familiar with history would know that people like AOC led to the birth of Communism and Socialism and we all know the end results of both. She is appealing to the fringe radicals but unfortunately a growing number of malcontents that buy the rhetoric and ignore the end results. All one needs to do is look at Venezuela now
    Well, to be fair capitalism does have its faults. No system is perfect. But unlike theocratic, socialist, monarchies and communist governments capitalism hasn't killed millions upon millions of people. Capitalism has in fact been one of the main reasons that we have a society that is as free as we have it right now.

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    Re: Ocasio-Cortez, at SXSW, blasts FDR, Reagan and capitalism, says political moderates are 'meh'

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Anyone familiar with history would know that people like AOC led to the birth of Communism and Socialism and we all know the end results of both. She is appealing to the fringe radicals but unfortunately a growing number of malcontents that buy the rhetoric and ignore the end results. All one needs to do is look at Venezuela now
    Wow wait a minute... the reason we have communism and socialism is because of people like YOU and other conservatives believing they were the only ones who could rule and that capitalism was allowed to exploit people and keep the masses in poverty and hell. That is why we have socialism as it is a reaction the the abuses of the conservative political sphere and its domination of world politics and economics up to the mid 1800s.
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    Re: Ocasio-Cortez, at SXSW, blasts FDR, Reagan and capitalism, says political moderates are 'meh'

    Quote Originally Posted by Acadia View Post
    You're right. AOC is anti-capitalist and want to grab what others have made and earned to redistribute wealth. AOC is lurching the Left further into identity politics and the culture of victimhood (which is to say intersectionality) and pitting whites vs. everyone else.
    Bold: Glad you agree.

    Rest: I don't see her pitting whites vs everyone else. I do see her using identity politics, but I don't see her trying to pit whites vs everyone else.

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    Re: Ocasio-Cortez, at SXSW, blasts FDR, Reagan and capitalism, says political moderates are 'meh'

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Anyone familiar with history would know that people like AOC led to the birth of Communism and Socialism and we all know the end results of both. She is appealing to the fringe radicals but unfortunately a growing number of malcontents that buy the rhetoric and ignore the end results. All one needs to do is look at Venezuela now
    Right now, AOC is riding the social media wave and she actively dodges any REAL debate. She appeals to the intellectually incurious, history ignorant and snowflake generation who are used to getting participation trophies.
    It's truly a testament to how stupid her ensorcelled audience really is when you realize this women just lost NYC 25,000 high-paying jobs, and NY BILLIONS in tax revenue, and they hang onto her every utterance.
    The irony is that Hillary et. al. blamed Trump supporters for living in the past, when all AOC and her ilk want to do is keep Americans living in the past century and have millenials not even alive during that time, feel aggrieved for a culture they never living in or through.

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