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Ocasio-Cortez, at SXSW, blasts FDR, Reagan and capitalism, says political moderates are 'meh'

Vadinho said:
I guess we will just agree to disagree.
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So two well dressed black guys walked into an upscale bar, ordered single malt scotches, silently enjoyed their indulgence, paid their tab with a generous gratuity for the bartender and left.

You were expecting a joke?
 
James972 said:
100% of energy for fiscal maturity is in Republican Party. Trump just proposed budget of 4.7 trillion. Schumer decried the cruel cuts in various welfare programs. Republicans have tried 30 times to make debt illegal, Dims killed every effort. They exist on always more crippling welfare spending so not surprising.
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Right. That's why the deficit goes up with Trump and a GOP Senate.

Go on with your fantasy world. I prefer reality.
 
rocket88 said:
Trump has not done anything to fix any of the problems you talk about. Yet you voted for him. In fact, the deficit continues to go up with him. Yet you ignore that.

I think some of the blame gets spread around to both parties, don't you? Or do you prefer your fantasy world where Democrats worship Satan and Republicans fart rainbows?
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Is that right? so the economic results generated aren't really actual results? Unlike you I will judge Trump on his entire term results not one year of budget performance regarding the deficit, when and if he passes Obama's 9.3 trillion I will indeed condemn him for the results but if the Democrats nominate one of the socialists running now he will have my vote again regardless of the deficit for the economic performance warrants another term.

People with jobs need less of that so called help and have more money to support people who don't which is why charitable giving is setting records and also why state and local governments particularly red states are setting revenue records. you on the other hand have no problem sending more tax dollars to the bureaucrats that created the 22 trillion dollar debt showing basic lack of logic and common sense
 
James972 said:
communists and socialist killed 180 million so who better to howl at??? Maybe modern lib illiterates who don't know the history and so want socialism here!
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Pretty slow on the ole Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot line, next time just go there right out of the gate, it makes you look sillier quicker.
 
Vadinho said:
Pretty slow on the ole Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot line, next time just go there right out of the gate, it makes you look sillier quicker.
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See what I mean about illiterate? :


-W.E.B DuBois: (the most important black leader in the first half of the 20th Century) "Joseph Stalin was a great man; few other men of the 20th Century approach his stature. The formation of the Nazi dictatorship was absolutely necessary to get the state in order." In 1937 he proclaimed: "there is today more democracy in Germany than there has been in years past." (page 10)

-H.G. Wells: "progressives must become "liberal fascists and enlightened Nazis" ( page 21)

-Jonah Goldberg: "In Italy they were called Fascists; in Germany they were called Nazis; in America they were called progressives" (page 81)
 
Obscurity said:
Fact: Capitalism requires consumption.

Fact: Weapons manufacturers in the US exist in a competitive capitalist market.

Fact: Weapons sales require conflict to proliferate.

Fact: Weapons sales from the US have been used in countless conflicts, with or without US influence, for decades.

Capitalism is responsible for deaths. Just like all other systems.

End of story.

Address the claims, the source is irrelevant.
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So you think if the US hasn't sold the weapons to other countries then those countries just wouldn't have decided to go to war.
Lol
I am sure even you realize how pathetic an argument that is

Just as it it you tried to used a garbage site and got caught and move on. No need to keep digging the whole deeper
 
Obscurity said:
Fact: Weapons sales from the US have been used in countless conflicts, with or without US influence, for decades.
Capitalism is responsible for deaths. Just like all other systems.
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All countries make and buy weapons regardless of their economic system so you would not say capitalism is responsible for deaths. you would say men who make and buy weapons are responsible for deaths. Is this kindergartener logic over your head?

The beauty of capitalism is seen in China wherein they switched to it from socialism and instantly eliminated 40% of all the poverty on the planet after socialism had just starved 60 million to death.
 
Vadinho said:
Pretty slow on the ole Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot line, next time just go there right out of the gate, it makes you look sillier quicker.
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??? so your thinking is that Hitler Stalin Mao Pol Pot Castro FDR are good advertisements for socialism??
 
James972 said:
All countries make and buy weapons regardless of their economic system so you would not say capitalism is responsible for deaths. you would say men who make and buy weapons are responsible for deaths. Is this kindergartener logic over your head?

The beauty of capitalism is seen in China wherein they switched to it from socialism and instantly eliminated 40% of all the poverty on the planet after socialism had just starved 60 million to death.
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By adding plastic to their rice?

Sorry. You're wrong and capitalism is just as bad.
 
Obscurity said:
By adding plastic to their rice?

Sorry. You're wrong and capitalism is just as bad.
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Thank you for proving for multiple times just in this thread why no one should take anything you say seriously
 
James972 said:
??? so your thinking is that Hitler Stalin Mao Pol Pot Castro FDR are good advertisements for socialism??
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No one is suggesting that we copy the versions of socialism they promoted. Yet do continue to paint with a broad brush, our friends in the rest of the first world love to have their systems compared to these three, it makes them laugh to hear it.
 
Obscurity said:
By adding plastic to their rice?
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I didn't know China was doing so well because of adding plastic to their rice. Can you provide evidence or is it just something your handlers told you to repeat?
 
Obscurity said:
Sorry. You're wrong and capitalism is just as bad.
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capitalism just eliminated 40% of the entire planets poverty after socialism starved 120 million to death so how can it be as bad? Ever hear of Florida/Cuba??
 
Vadinho said:
No one is suggesting that we copy the versions of socialism they promoted. .
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but they all promoted a different versions and the results were all the same?? How many versions and how many millions dead before you say, how did we ever get hooked on the deadliest idea ever imagined by the human mind
 
Vadinho said:
Yet do continue to paint with a broad brush, our friends in the rest of the first world love to have their systems compared to these three, it makes them laugh to hear it.
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what 3??????? what comparison??? you clean forgot to say??
 
Conservative said:
Is that right? so the economic results generated aren't really actual results? Unlike you I will judge Trump on his entire term results not one year of budget performance regarding the deficit, when and if he passes Obama's 9.3 trillion I will indeed condemn him for the results but if the Democrats nominate one of the socialists running now he will have my vote again regardless of the deficit for the economic performance warrants another term.

People with jobs need less of that so called help and have more money to support people who don't which is why charitable giving is setting records and also why state and local governments particularly red states are setting revenue records. you on the other hand have no problem sending more tax dollars to the bureaucrats that created the 22 trillion dollar debt showing basic lack of logic and common sense
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You will judge Trump based on his party affiliation. The ONLY person at DP who believes your delusion is you.

There is still deficit spending. Trump has done absolutely nothing to change that.
 
rocket88 said:
You will judge Trump based on his party affiliation. The ONLY person at DP who believes your delusion is you.
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Party matters and Trump is far more conservatives than socialists/ communists in Democratic Party.
 
rocket88 said:
There is still deficit spending. Trump has done absolutely nothing to change that.
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So? He introduced $4.7 trillion budget yesterday and Schumer gave long speech denouncing cruel cuts in Trumps budget. Trump will build wall and cut budget the second there is enough support. 1+1=2 We love him for the battles fought, not the battles won against totally irresponsible liberals.
 
prometeus said:
Bright enought ot see through your sophistry and bragging.

No, that is your highly educated baseless opinion.

Yet you are unable to formulate an intelligent counterpoint to her position and in your desperation find it necessary to attack her education and brag about your.
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Brag about your [sic]
Should have been "yours."
No, I don't think these are just typos; you are still committing one after the other, and your inability to see that I don't support Trump is telling. Like I said, you are not very bright.
Sorry, but I lost interest in you. Have a nice life.
 
sangha said:
"When you berate others, you should better watch your own speech"

Someone said that. I wonder who?
I think it was the same person that believes I assume people are lying because I said I don't assume people are telling the truth. As if there were only two choices.

I assume a well educated person would avoid that kind of black and white thinking, but I could be wrong about that
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Predictable answer.
Try to be a bit original, will you?
 
sangha said:
"Triggered" and "amused" have completely different meanings.

BTW, did they teach you that accusing others of being overly emotional is an intellectually honest tactic while acquiring your academic credentials?
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Laughable and pathetic. You say "who are you?" trying to appear uninterested and superior, and by now you've replied to me and quoted me not fewer that SEVEN times.
Sure, pal.
Get a grip. Get some help. Don't be so invested. 8,000 posts per year; that's a lot. Get outside and get some air. Smell the roses.
 
prometeus said:
Yea, like Buffet, Gates, Bezos and oddly enough none of them want anything to do with the idiot Trump and his low intellect supporters.
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Actaully Gates has donated to the DNC substantially in the past. This also doesn't make way for you to cover on people like the Koch brothers, who are libertarian in their lean.

Nor does it cover for the myriad of holywood elites that came forward in 2016 to push their own progressive agenda against the republican party. Though to any extent that was more aimed against Trump than anything else.

This still puts the same holes in your assumption that all of the US's upper class, or at least a vast majority, are conservative.
 
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