• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Dem frosh turn tables on anti-Semitism rebuke, shift spotlight to Islamophobia and AIPAC power

Deuce said:
)

Jesus Christ you people make me sick. Criticizing a lobby group makes you antisemitic but it’s ok to declare all Muslims want to destroy America. What the **** is wrong with you
Click to expand...

You haven't paid any attention to her have you? It is a lot more than the lobby group. this person is a pure anti Semitic and support for her shows you to be the same
 
Ikari said:
It's hyperpartisan propaganda. They have to try to spin a narrative here. It has to be really draining spending all one's time defending Trump and making up "headlines" against the other side to try to make it seem like Trump isn't just some continual stream of bad news and national embarrassment.

Try to cut them a break.

lol
Click to expand...

OMG, keep up the spin, this isn't about the lobbyist it is about her PERIOD and her anti Israel rants. Stop the leftwing bull**** and diversion from reality
 
Conservative said:
You haven't paid any attention to her have you? It is a lot more than the lobby group. this person is a pure anti Semitic and support for her shows you to be the same
Click to expand...

Show me other examples of alleged antisemitism then, mister informed guy
 
Conservative said:
OMG, keep up the spin, this isn't about the lobbyist it is about her PERIOD and her anti Israel rants. Stop the leftwing bull**** and diversion from reality
Click to expand...

What are her "anti-Israel" rants? Pretty sure she was criticizing the influence of AIPAC. But spin away, I suppose. Hope that Kool-Aid is delicious.
 
Conservative said:
Of course you are because you cannot see beyond the moment and that the actual goal is of radical Islam. What you also don't understand is the responsibility of the voter to get rid of those bought by lobbyist yet you blame the lobbyists? That is typical liberalism. Why are you voting for politicians that take bribes as you call it
Click to expand...

Your ignorance here is typically conservative. You guys promote unlimited spending for corporate "persons", enshrine that bribery into the constitution and then ask why Democrats are voting for bribe recipients. What a stupid joke.

It's like conservatives have changed the game to make it so only the bribed can get elected and then judge the left for even playing.
 
MTAtech said:
I don't think that criticism of Israel is off limits. But I do think that Omar believes she is supporting causes promoting human rights, in this case she is promoting an Anti Israel agenda using anti Semitic tropes, which are off-limits.

AIPAC overly supports the Israeli hard-right, to the detriment of U.S. interests and the goal of a lasting Israeli peace.
Click to expand...

I think too many anti-israel tropes are actually just cover providing propaganda.

I rarely ever see anybody actually criticize ANYTHING Israel.does without getting labeled anti-semitic.

Its the ultimate talking point.

Here's an interesting thought experiment. This article was oddly hard to find, or maybe not that oddly.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjAJegQIBhAB&usg=AOvVaw2_8_J44JB413BcCryWBf0X

Took multiple searches to find this one article on what I remember as a fairly big kerfuffle.

Somali Jewish immigrants fighting with European Israelis.

Is it possible to take either side on this issue without being labeled anti-semitic?

There was racism and discrimination against Jewish people by Israel/Israelis.

Was Israel being antisemitc or am i antisemitic for asking?
 
Deuce said:
)

Jesus Christ you people make me sick. Criticizing a lobby group makes you antisemitic but it’s ok to declare all Muslims want to destroy America. What the **** is wrong with you
Click to expand...

Actually, only about 3 million want to destroy America.
 
D_NATURED said:
Your ignorance here is typically conservative. You guys promote unlimited spending for corporate "persons", enshrine that bribery into the constitution and then ask why Democrats are voting for bribe recipients. What a stupid joke.

It's like conservatives have changed the game to make it so only the bribed can get elected and then judge the left for even playing.
Click to expand...

Add this to the list as your rant has nothing to do with the thread topic. In your world people are never responsible for their actions so now you blame it on lobbyists. Lobbyists don't cast a vote in Congress nor do Lobbyists present bills for consideration.

Rep. Ilhan Omar slams Barack Obama'''s message of '''hope and change''' as a '''mirage''' | Fox News
 
D_NATURED said:
Your ignorance here is typically conservative. You guys promote unlimited spending for corporate "persons", enshrine that bribery into the constitution and then ask why Democrats are voting for bribe recipients. What a stupid joke.

It's like conservatives have changed the game to make it so only the bribed can get elected and then judge the left for even playing.
Click to expand...

To be fair, both the left and the right love the Corporate Person and all the money they donate to the cause.
 
Conservative said:
Add this to the list as your rant has nothing to do with the thread topic. In your world people are never responsible for their actions so now you blame it on lobbyists. Lobbyists don't cast a vote in Congress nor do Lobbyists present bills for consideration.

Rep. Ilhan Omar slams Barack Obama'''s message of '''hope and change''' as a '''mirage''' | Fox News
Click to expand...

Lobbyists just pay for those votes and to get certain bills introduced.

And what...do you think Obama was a good President now?

lol

Man, the Kool-Aid Propaganda Machine is is overtime.
 
Conservative said:
You haven't paid any attention to her have you? It is a lot more than the lobby group. this person is a pure anti Semitic and support for her shows you to be the same
Click to expand...

You actually have not payed attention yo what is happening:
The latest tweet is all about a lobby group and not about any antisemitic comment

Omar's latest tweet was not criticizing Israel practices or even American Jews. It was a valid criticism of the US policies where people of different religious and ethnic backgrounds (including EVANGELICALS ) and people influenced by lobbyists wanted her removal from the House Foreign Affairs Committee because they do not see her as a loyal supporter of Israel.

Excerpts from the link below

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...t-smearing-ilhan-omar/?utm_term=.e02c330f27c8

Ilhan Omar certainly didn’t say that Jews have dual loyalty. For instance, in one of the tweets that got people so worked up, Omar said, “I should not be expected to have allegiance/pledge support to a foreign country in order to serve my country in Congress or serve on committee.” You’ll notice she didn’t say or even imply anything at all about Jews. She said that she was being asked to support Israel in order to have the privilege of serving on the House Foreign Affairs Committee, which was true. Many on the right have called for her to be removed from that committee (see here, or here, or here, or here). Her argument, to repeat, isn’t about how Jews feel about Israel, it’s about what is being demanded of her.
 
Ikari said:
What are her "anti-Israel" rants? Pretty sure she was criticizing the influence of AIPAC. But spin away, I suppose. Hope that Kool-Aid is delicious.
Click to expand...

It's better to start on the first page and work your way up when reading a thread.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
View attachment 67252208
Click to expand...

No they haven't. one Steven King is not a white supremacist and two for being lied about by the New York times he was censured and stripped of committee assignments. Muslim votes to defund DHS and is on the foreign affairs committee thus giving America's enemies access to information.
 
Mongidig said:
It's better to start on the first page and work your way up when reading a thread.
Click to expand...

Yup....didn't see any "anti-Israel" rants.

lol
 
EMNofSeattle said:
No they haven't. one Steven King is not a white supremacist and two for being lied about by the New York times he was censured and stripped of committee assignments. Muslim votes to defund DHS and is on the foreign affairs committee thus giving America's enemies access to information.
Click to expand...

A. Steve King is white supremacist. You have no idea what you're babbling about.
B. Yes, they have. They tolerated his bull**** for yeeeeeeears.
 
Conservative said:
The what you are doing is nothing more than whining and complaining because a Green candidate cannot even win local elections let alone statewide ones. the way to make change is from within not from the outside
Click to expand...

Perhaps I can get AIPAC to fund me enough to get inside.
/
 
EMNofSeattle said:
No they haven't. one Steven King is not a white supremacist and two for being lied about by the New York times he was censured and stripped of committee assignments. Muslim votes to defund DHS and is on the foreign affairs committee thus giving America's enemies access to information.
Click to expand...

Really? Here are two quotes:

"And three out of five citizens believe the country has turned into a dysfunctional society because of multiculturalism."

"Cultural suicide by demographic transformation must end."

Can you pick which one was said by King and which was said by Anders Behring Breivik without googling?
 
Last edited:
Ikari said:
Lobbyists just pay for those votes and to get certain bills introduced.

And what...do you think Obama was a good President now?

lol

Man, the Kool-Aid Propaganda Machine is is overtime.
Click to expand...

Why would I believe Obama was a good President when the data says the opposite. Again you miss the point, lobbyists are doing their job and the problem is those influenced by those lobbyists. Again you show people are never responsible for their actions in your fantasy world
 
pamak said:
You actually have not payed attention yo what is happening:
The latest tweet is all about a lobby group and not about any antisemitic comment

Omar's latest tweet was not criticizing Israel practices or even American Jews. It was a valid criticism of the US policies where people of different religious and ethnic backgrounds (including EVANGELICALS ) and people influenced by lobbyists wanted her removal from the House Foreign Affairs Committee because they do not see her as a loyal supporter of Israel.

Excerpts from the link below

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...t-smearing-ilhan-omar/?utm_term=.e02c330f27c8

Ilhan Omar certainly didn’t say that Jews have dual loyalty. For instance, in one of the tweets that got people so worked up, Omar said, “I should not be expected to have allegiance/pledge support to a foreign country in order to serve my country in Congress or serve on committee.” You’ll notice she didn’t say or even imply anything at all about Jews. She said that she was being asked to support Israel in order to have the privilege of serving on the House Foreign Affairs Committee, which was true. Many on the right have called for her to be removed from that committee (see here, or here, or here, or here). Her argument, to repeat, isn’t about how Jews feel about Israel, it’s about what is being demanded of her.
Click to expand...

Yep, you see what you want to see and focus only on this issue not all her comments and her entire attitude. Typical leftwing attitude. You people never learn and I am not going to waste any more time here discussing this issue with people who aren't worth the effort and that includes you
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom