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U.S. House panel launches probe into possible obstruction by Trump

MTAtech said:
Republicans spent five years fishing investigating Hillary Clinton and the end found nothing chargeable. Now, with ample evidence against Trump, they claim there is no justification.
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And the pendulum swings back and forth, back and forth.....
 
eohrnberger said:
A bunch of Twitter feeds? :lamo:lamo:lamo
Sorry, but you'll have to do better than that.
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LOL! No, it's only one Twitter feed. I see you're yet again frightened to death of actually addressing the content of the feed and have to whine about it being from Twitter.

I accept your admission you cannot address the matter and hand and are forced to retreat to save face.
 
MTAtech said:
Republicans spent five years fishing investigating Hillary Clinton and the end found nothing chargeable.
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It is documented that Hillary did have classified info in her unsecured private server/email (110 messages according to the FBI). She could've been charged, but Comey's diddling with the wording ("intent") helped her dodge a legal mess.

I'm sure whatever was discussed between Billy and Loretta Lynch in Phoenix had something to do with it too (possibly a promise of a cabinet position in a Hillary administration).
 
Roadvirus said:
It is documented that Hillary did have classified info in her unsecured private server/email (110 messages according to the FBI). She could've been charged, but Comey's diddling with the wording ("intent") helped her dodge a legal mess.

I'm sure whatever was discussed between Billy and Loretta Lynch in Phoenix had something to do with it too (possibly a promise of a cabinet position in a Hillary administration).
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See: Officials Scrutinized Over Classified Information, But Rarely Found Criminal
 
The President of the US has the right to fire any appointee in the government. If you want to believe its a crime then explain why all the democrats wanted Comey fired up until Trump actually did it. Making an inquiry into procedure within the executive department is not automatically obstruction.
What is obstruction is destroying 33,000 government emails on a private server when those emails are under federal subpoena.
 
j-mac said:
These investigations aren't about crimes, they are about dirtying up Trump for 2020....
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That's right, the scope of the Judiciary Committee isn't limited to crimes. The Special Prosecutor and the Justice Department are investigating whether Trump and Co. committed crimes -- acts defined in the criminal code. The House Judiciary Committee has a much broader mandate -- investigate whether the president committed wrongdoing that was or wasn't a crime. As an example, Nixon's articles of impeachment included many items, such as abuse of power, that isn't in the criminal code.

With respect to Trump, it's proper for the Judiciary Committee to investigate whether Trump used his power for personal enrichment in violation of the emoluments clause of the Constitution -- which doesn't violate the criminal code. Moreover, Trump ordering his son-in-law Jared Kushner to be given a top-secret security clearance over the objections of the White House counsel and his intelligence advisers, may also constitute another abuse of power that isn't illegal. Using the Justice Department to cause retribution on CNN by personally asked a top White House aide to make sure the Justice Department stopped AT&T from purchasing Time Warner, is an abuse of power.

Chairman Nadler said that crimes and impeachable offenses are "two different things."
 
digsbe said:
Just more bogus fuel for the liberal media to circle jerk too since it loves to get off to all these faux DNC led conspiracies against the Trump administration. I'm sure we'll see 3+ stories per day on this.
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At this point they're going to put almost all of themselves into traction for the rest of the year.
 
Cardinal said:
The difference is that the findings of a Congressional investigation are likely to become public. A DOJ investigation is not guaranteed to go public.

This was one of the many, many reasons why it was so necessary for Democrats to retake one of the chambers of Congress last November.
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So they could repeatedly throw **** and see what sticks?
 
Tanngrisnir said:
LOL! No, it's only one Twitter feed. I see you're yet again frightened to death of actually addressing the content of the feed and have to whine about it being from Twitter.

I accept your admission you cannot address the matter and hand and are forced to retreat to save face.
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Twitter is a cesspool of people's stream of consciousness blatherings.
It is not a legitimate or factual news source or a source of any sort of facts for that matter.
They are welcome to them.
I'm not going to lower myself and go and read it.
 
Khayembii Communique said:
They were all committing crimes during the campaign.
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Still waiting for the collusion charges from the Mueller investigation.

So far no one's seen any.
Except perhaps the collusion based on the Steele dossier fiction, force fed into Obama's IC and Obama's Fed LEO, misused to justify a fraud of a FISA warrant vending the power of the federal government against a candidate from the political opposition. Yeah, real 3rd world banana republic stuff.
 
Mr Person said:
What would be wrong with a "complete duplication" when there's a real possibility Trump's AG will redact the report to remove the most damning details?

And besides, it isn't like any one of you has the slightest bit of standing to complain. You cheered as the GOP put on over SEVEN duplicative investigations that were supposed to be about how Benghazi unfolded, but were really only about trying to smear Hillary with sloppiness about an email server having jack **** to do with Benghazi.
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Hillary committed crimes with that email server that would have convicted anyone else besides her. Apparently the principal of equal before the law isn't anymore.

This is my main gripe on how the same FBI cabal that whitewashed that investigation, the same cabal that based a fraudulent FISA warrant on the fiction of the Steele dossier, vending Obama's IC and LEO and their power against a candidate of the political opposition. Yeah, real 3rd world, banana republic stuff.

Who do you all think you're fooling? Some millenial who might have been in junior high back then and isn't savvy enough to read a bit of recent history before forming political opinions?
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Seems you've missed a bit of the most recent political history. Say that last 3 years or so?
 
eohrnberger said:
Twitter is a cesspool of people's stream of consciousness blatherings.
It is not a legitimate or factual news source or a source of any sort of facts for that matter.
They are welcome to them.
I'm not going to lower myself and go and read it.
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I accept your admission you cannot address the matter and hand and are forced to retreat to save face.

The Tweets contain factual data. Data that frightens you to death because it clearly shows the corruption that surrounds and subsumes your god.

Intellectual cowardice is so unbecoming.
 
eohrnberger said:
Still waiting for the collusion charges from the Mueller investigation.

So far no one's seen any.
Except perhaps the collusion based on the Steele dossier fiction, force fed into Obama's IC and Obama's Fed LEO, misused to justify a fraud of a FISA warrant vending the power of the federal government against a candidate from the political opposition. Yeah, real 3rd world banana republic stuff.
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Sounds like a well disproven conspiracy theory to me. But republicans love conspiracies, so it's not surprising.
 
eohrnberger said:
Hillary committed crimes with that email server that would have convicted anyone else besides her. Apparently the principal of equal before the law isn't anymore.

This is my main gripe on how the same FBI cabal that whitewashed that investigation, the same cabal that based a fraudulent FISA warrant on the fiction of the Steele dossier, vending Obama's IC and LEO and their power against a candidate of the political opposition. Yeah, real 3rd world, banana republic stuff.



Seems you've missed a bit of the most recent political history. Say that last 3 years or so?
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The FBI tanked Hillary's campaign. None of you can seem to fit that little detail into your conspiracy theories.
 
eohrnberger said:
Still waiting for the collusion charges from the Mueller investigation.

So far no one's seen any.
Except perhaps the collusion based on the Steele dossier fiction, force fed into Obama's IC and Obama's Fed LEO, misused to justify a fraud of a FISA warrant vending the power of the federal government against a candidate from the political opposition. Yeah, real 3rd world banana republic stuff.
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Collusion on the part of Trump's campaign has already been demonstrated. You pretending that it hasn't won't make your fantasy any more real.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
I accept your admission you cannot address the matter and hand and are forced to retreat to save face.

The Tweets contain factual data. Data that frightens you to death because it clearly shows the corruption that surrounds and subsumes your god.

Intellectual cowardice is so unbecoming.
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Twitter is as I've described it.
Fiction doesn't frighten me, as I recognize it for what it is.
Trump is no god and certainly isn't my god. I've on record here that there's good Trump, then he furthers the conservative agenda, and bad Trump when he doesn't further or retards that agenda.
No Intellectual cowardice here.
Look elsewhere. Perhaps look at the 2+ years of gaslighting about the fictitious Trump / Russian collusion?
 
Khayembii Communique said:
The FBI tanked Hillary's campaign. None of you can seem to fit that little detail into your conspiracy theories.
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Hillary tanked Hillary's campaign. She was a terrible candidate, but she, and many others, simply can't bring themselves to this realization of fact.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
Collusion on the part of Trump's campaign has already been demonstrated. You pretending that it hasn't won't make your fantasy any more real.
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If so, where are the collusion charges?
 
MTAtech said:
Republicans spent five years fishing investigating Hillary Clinton and the end found nothing chargeable. Now, with ample evidence against Trump, they claim there is no justification.
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You forgot about the 8 years republicans investigated the clintons while Bill was president

Republicans love them an investigation as long as its not one of theirs being investigated.
 
MTAtech said:
That's right, the scope of the Judiciary Committee isn't limited to crimes. The Special Prosecutor and the Justice Department are investigating whether Trump and Co. committed crimes -- acts defined in the criminal code.
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And now that it appears, at least in the rumors circulating around, that Muller's report may fall short of implicating Trump in any of what you hoped, dreamed, and hatched all your chickens for, Nadler, Schiff, and the rest of the clown show in the house are moving to the Lavrentiy Beria phase of their push to remove Trump right? "Find me the man, and I'll show you the crime"? That is outrageous, and the American people won't stand for it....

The House Judiciary Committee has a much broader mandate -- investigate whether the president committed wrongdoing that was or wasn't a crime. As an example, Nixon's articles of impeachment included many items, such as abuse of power, that isn't in the criminal code.
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Who said they didn't? Don't preach to me about Nixon, I was around when that was going on, many here weren't....Trump is no Nixon...Nixon's impeachment, which never happened because he resigned before that could take place, was caught up in his own malfeasance while sitting in the Oval office..With Trump, this is a fishing expedition launched to go back as far as needed to find any little morsel to chew on...It is a harassment campaign, and it should be beneath any party looking to win an election. However, the Democrats know damned well that they don't have anything that excites Americans about their platform of Socialism that they know would destroy this Nation...So, they will instead use their majority in the house to smear...Democrats are detestable little pricks.

With respect to Trump, it's proper for the Judiciary Committee to investigate whether Trump used his power for personal enrichment in violation of the emoluments clause of the Constitution -- which doesn't violate the criminal code.
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Let's see how much you know about the Presidency...Is it proscribed by the Constitution that a President relinquish all of his businesses to hold the office?

Moreover, Trump ordering his son-in-law Jared Kushner to be given a top-secret security clearance over the objections of the White House counsel and his intelligence advisers, may also constitute another abuse of power that isn't illegal.
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Any other President doing this and you'd have no problem with it. If it were a Democrat, even better, you'd argue that they could...You can't strip the powers of the Presidency just because you hate the man elected...That's not how it works.

Using the Justice Department to cause retribution on CNN by personally asked a top White House aide to make sure the Justice Department stopped AT&T from purchasing Time Warner, is an abuse of power.
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You sure didn't have a problem when Obama ordered his Justice Dept. to investigate, and tap reporters he didn't agree with....Seems your outrage against "abuse of power" is selective...

Chairman Nadler said that crimes and impeachable offenses are "two different things."
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Yep, and Nadler is a slime ball that should be investigated himself....Like I said, Democrats are worthy of contempt.
 
j-mac said:
Crimes could have been committed if these questions were actually answered instead of covered up....

Why were American diplomats in Benghazi to begin with?

Why was security at the compound so inadequate?

Did the intelligence community miss any warning signs?

Why was the military unable to get there fast enough to perform a rescue?

And why were Obama administration officials initially incorrect in explaining the attacks as a spontaneous flare-up during a protest?
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I didn't ask you for a list of questions. I asked you to identify the crime the Benghazi investigations were trying to prove

Your refusal to answer is proof that you know it was a political witch hunt but partisanship and dishonesty don't allow you to post an honest answer
 
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