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[W:329] Poster linking Rep. Ilhan Omar to 9/11 sparks outrage, injuries in W.Va. state Capitol

Sick, but completely unsurprising in Trump's America. At least the person who made that poster didn't make pipe bombs and mail them to the media and Democrats, so there's at least something to be thankful for.
 
lwf said:
"...not a single Republican elected official in this building could join me in saying it’s wrong." -Pushkin.

The Republican party is self-destructing before our eyes. This is what's called "Hitching your wagon to the wrong horse."
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You realize the left are eating each other in the democrat primaries, right? the "right" has a leader. The right may hate each other (just look at the primaries McCain went through) at the end of the day, conservatives will always unite when around the leader who's chosen and will oppose the left. The left wing however.......well.....they have their own issues to work out.

BTW, I love the poster. I don't see anything inaccurate about it.
 
She is an Anti Semite in the House of Representatives and you are worried about a poster some individual printed up? What is wrong with you people?
 
Nickyjo said:
So a woman from a sometimes disparaged group who comes here as a refugee becomes a member of Congress. How un-American.

Holy "No Irish Need Apply," Batman, how did it come to this?

The more things change...
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And when The United States gives her an oppurtunity she would have NEVER gotten in Somalia, she shows her ass.
 
SLC said:
She is an Anti Semite in the House of Representatives and you are worried about a poster some individual printed up? What is wrong with you people?
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It might be another hoax. Someone may have planted the poster.
 
Lutherf said:
So a controversial group bought a table at a GOP event and put up a distasteful poster? Controversial groups do that kind of crap all the time.

FWIW, ACT For America denies it's their poster and denies that they had staff on West Virginia - ACT for America - Home | Facebook

It may be a good idea to see exactly how this all plays out. The poster definitely isn't ACT's style.
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It's interesting that the replies to their release denying responsibility mostly seem to say the poster is their style, and the national office is gutless for not standing with the message. Seems like the problem if any was the PR issue of using the face of a sitting Congresswoman not the message, at least in the minds of the followers. That's not a surprise.
 
Atomic Kid said:
What hell is going on down there in Virginia? How could anyone in the GOP possibly think that this poster was even remotely appropriate?

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They didn't.

That's precisely WHY they put it up.

Trump showed that such was a path to potential victory.

And so some are following it.

Because it gives them a feeling of freedom to have finally escaped from the constraints of civil discourse, which have been holding them back from pointing out the "truth" all these years.
 
danarhea said:
Who are the real terrorists here? Not Omar, who became a Congresswoman in a fair election, and has a squeaky clean police record. The terrorists here are West Virginia's right wing thugs, who not only created the poster which led to the near riot, but have also posted graffiti around the state calling for the assassination of Omar. In 2018, right wing thugs committed every single terrorist act that resulted in death in the US. And now, some of them are even calling for the assassination of a duly elected member of Congress. The bigger threat to America's security right now is not Islamic extremism, although that is still a big issue, and will probably continue to be a major issue for some time. The bigger threat at the moment is Nazi extremism.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...ies-wva-state-capitol/?utm_term=.20336f4d6d30
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It's called bigotry.

There are too many people in America who don't understand the difference between a Muslim and a Muslim terrorist. There is no excuse for such ignorance and bigotry. I see it all the damn time. It's way too common.
 
danarhea said:
Who are the real terrorists here? Not Omar, who became a Congresswoman in a fair election, and has a squeaky clean police record. The terrorists here are West Virginia's right wing thugs, who not only created the poster which led to the near riot, but have also posted graffiti around the state calling for the assassination of Omar. In 2018, right wing thugs committed every single terrorist act that resulted in death in the US. And now, some of them are even calling for the assassination of a duly elected member of Congress. The bigger threat to America's security right now is not Islamic extremism, although that is still a big issue, and will probably continue to be a major issue for some time. The bigger threat at the moment is Nazi extremism.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...ies-wva-state-capitol/?utm_term=.20336f4d6d30
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The far right does not care about right-wing/neo-nazi terrorism because, being typically White Anglo Saxon Protestants, they know they aren't the targets of those extremists.
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
Oh come on now, there are a lot of good people out there amongst those "right wing thugs".

Right?
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I can just imagine Trump's tweet: "That woman had a permit to set up her poster there! Where was the permit of those left-winged lawmakers demanding she take it down?!"
 
Deuce said:
Any criticism of Israel gets called anti-Semitic.
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Unfortunately, it is the kneejerk reaction of the pro-Israeli government crowd. Somehow they cannot separate the actions of a state and an entire ethnic group/religion.
 
Atomic Kid said:
Why not? The display was set up as part of "WV GOP Day," which the party advertised on Facebook as a day when "Republicans Take the Rotunda." The GOP has been cozying up to right wing extremist well before Trump came along. The Repubs have moved so far to the right that they now look upon people expressing centrist views as being 'radical leftists'.
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LEFT WING

"left - wing"

NOUN

"A person who is less reactionary than I am."

[From the AKME Dictionary of Current American Political Usage - still in pre-press preparation]
 
Fletch said:
It is as unfair of you to smear all people on the right because of a poster that showed up at some gathering of state level officials in West Virginia as it would be for me to smear all democrats simply because some in Minnesota elected this ant-Semitic piece of crap.
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Bull ****ing ****. The right does this every single ****ing time a person who is a leftist does something wrong.

I'm keeping this post so you can leap to the defense of your liberal brethren when your disgusting Trump sell out buddies do the same to a leftist.
 
danarhea said:
I wouldn't put this on the GOP per se. This was done by right wing extremist thugs. Many Republicans will be condemning this too.
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I would love to believe you, except I have far too many right wing friends who have actually posted very similar memes in their threads lately saying very nearly the same thing. Even a cousin of mine, who tried to say that she "wasn't fit for office" because of her dream of the New Green Deal (had to explain to him that she wasn't even the main person behind that, and he needed to get his facts straight since what he posted appeared very much against her due to her religion, not her stances on anything, he took down that post).
 
JasperL said:
It's interesting that the replies to their release denying responsibility mostly seem to say the poster is their style, and the national office is gutless for not standing with the message. Seems like the problem if any was the PR issue of using the face of a sitting Congresswoman not the message, at least in the minds of the followers. That's not a surprise.
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The purported poster folks aren't new. There's plenty of their stuff around the web to see. In comparison to that stuff (the stuff I can trace back to them, not just the stuff that comes up when I google their name) it isn't their style.
 
Fletch said:
It is as unfair of you to smear all people on the right because of a poster that showed up at some gathering of state level officials in West Virginia as it would be for me to smear all democrats simply because some in Minnesota elected this ant-Semitic piece of crap.
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You are quite correct.

On the other hand that doesn't appear to stop you doing just that.
 
Cardinal said:
Sick, but completely unsurprising in Trump's America. At least the person who made that poster didn't make pipe bombs and mail them to the media and Democrats, so there's at least something to be thankful for.
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You forgot to add "for now".
 
Jack Hays said:
Meanwhile, she's being called out, again, by her own party for anti-Semitism.





Senior Democrat demands another apology from Rep. Omar, accusing her of ‘vile anti-Semitic slur’
House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Rep. Eliot L. Engel (D-N.Y.) rebuked freshmen Rep. Ilhan Omar, the third time her remarks have stirred up controversy this year.
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“I want to talk about the political influence in this country that says it is okay for people to push for allegiance to a foreign country,” - Omar

Wait... that is the so-called anti-semitic statement?!
 
Geoist said:
“I want to talk about the political influence in this country that says it is okay for people to push for allegiance to a foreign country,” - Omar

Wait... that is the so-called anti-semitic statement?!
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It's called Astroturfing, and that is in the GOP playbook.
 
apdst said:
And when The United States gives her an oppurtunity she would have NEVER gotten in Somalia, she shows her ass.
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She mooned Congress? What are you talking about? Most every immigrant could fetch those comments. Once she’s here, however, she’s the same as the rest of us.
 
Deuce said:
"All about the benjamins" is not an antisemitic dogwhistle.
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Funny how that fits right in with Jewish stereotyping.
 
sanman said:
When Ilhan Omar exchanges blatantly anti-Semitic tweets with known anti-Semites, all she had to do is issue some insincere retraction without disowning her anti-Semitic band of clowns, and the Left put her back up on the pedestal again, like a golden calf. But poster -- oh noes! :roll:
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Her apologies were more "I'm sorry what I said hurt you" instead of an apology for what she said. It's like saying "I'm sorry lighting you on fire hurt you".
 
Geoist said:
“I want to talk about the political influence in this country that says it is okay for people to push for allegiance to a foreign country,” - Omar

Wait... that is the so-called anti-semitic statement?!
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". . . In a statement Friday, Eliot said he welcomed debate in Congress but that it was “unacceptable and deeply offensive to call into question the loyalty of fellow American citizens because of their political views, including support for the US-Israel relationship."
“Her comments were outrageous and deeply hurtful, and I ask that she retract them, apologize, and commit to making her case on policy issues without resorting to attacks that have no place in the Foreign Affairs Committee or the House of Representatives,” he said. . . . "
 
danarhea said:
It's called Astroturfing, and that is in the GOP playbook.
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She was called out by a Dem.

". . . In a statement Friday, Eliot said he welcomed debate in Congress but that it was “unacceptable and deeply offensive to call into question the loyalty of fellow American citizens because of their political views, including support for the US-Israel relationship."
“Her comments were outrageous and deeply hurtful, and I ask that she retract them, apologize, and commit to making her case on policy issues without resorting to attacks that have no place in the Foreign Affairs Committee or the House of Representatives,” he said. . . . "
 
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