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Troops Find Severed Heads of 50 Yazidi Sex Slaves in ISIS Tunnels

pamak said:
Then apply the same logic with the Missouri (or any other state's) Muslims!
As I showed to you, the number of victims from domestic right-wing terrorism in the US is below your radar even though the number of deaths from such believers is easily comparable to that of domestic Muslim terrorists. Becoming obsessed with the veryy remote possibility that a Muslim neighbor will some day become an ISIS supporter and try to kill you is irrational.
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I would be happy to apply the same logic. Please provide examples of things Jesus said or did that would encourage terrorism or world-wide holy war.
 
stevecanuck said:
I would be happy to apply the same logic. Please provide examples of things Jesus said or did that would encourage terrorism or world-wide holy war.
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You said "If someone finds the severed heads of sex slaves and attribute them to Missouri Baptists, we'll talk about the bible."

So, did you find severed heads of sex slaves in Missouri which are attributed to Missouri Muslims?

As for the "holy war" in the Bible, I gave you the example of the "promised land" in the Old Testament which is part of the Evangelical Christian belief.

Exodus 23:31 NIV - “I will establish your borders from - Bible Gateway

“I will establish your borders from the Red Sea[a] to the Mediterranean Sea, and from the desert to the Euphrates River. I will give into your hands the people who live in the land, and you will drive them out before you.

And if you are into criticizing religions based on verses that contradict modern morality, then you should explain why you do not have an issue with verses in the Christian Bible which endorse slavery or verses which criticize the rich or verses which command the killing of gays.

Leviticus 20:13

If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltiness is upon them




or what about

Ephesians 6:5 Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear and sincerity of heart, just as you would show to Christ.

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear and sincerity of heart, just as you would show to Christ. 6And do this not only to please them while they are watching, but as servants of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart

and just out of curiosity: Do the christian conservatives agree with what Jesus say about the rich?

Matthew 19:24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

Then Jesus said to His disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.

In other words, it is OBVIOUS that verses and real practices differ: So I ask again! Did you find in Missouri severed heads of sex slaves attributed to Muslims?
 
pamak said:
If Islamic terrorism threatens anything, then this is the Middle Eastern Muslims who are mostly its victims. I see no threat to the fabric of the western civilization as a result of Islam when cases of Islamic terrorism in the West are extremely unlikely and come from a very small minority of extremists. I actually see a much bigger threat to the western and global civilization as a result of the unscientific and religious culture of Evangelicals which makes them reluctant to accept that human behavior can threaten our life on earth because they do not believe in science and because their premise is that only God will make such life-threatening decisions.

My final sentence was to see how you can explain a fear against Muslims based on some rare events of violence coming from Muslim extremism while you do not seem concerned about more likely events of crime coming from other demographic groups. To use your expression, "thanks to the long patient and sometimes dangerous work of many people" over the last 70 years, right wing ideology was "defanged." This seems to change! I see an attempt from extreme right wing media to create an unreasonable level of fear by playing 24/7 every case of death and terrorism coming from Islamic terrorists, and a rise of right wing parties in European Parliaments which use a rhetoric which demonizes Muslims in general. I have no problem if an atheist is hostile to the religion of Islam or if a person is against immigration at a time when low-cost labor from poor immigrants affect his income. I have a problem with the attempt to make a case against immigration by depicting a whole demographic group of Muslim believers as potential terrorist suspects who threaten our safety when in fact it is wayyyyyyy more likely that we may become victims of regular crime by our non-Muslim male peers.
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Thank you for your thoughtful reply. But once again I must emphasize that it is Islam that I fear, certainly not individual Muslims. You fail to understand the effects of Muslim immigration on a very large scale on the social and political fabric of many European countries.

You write from a US perspective; Evangelicals have insignificant influence anywhere in Europe. The Catholic church was historically the chief barrier to progress but its power has waned, even in once ultra Catholic Ireland. It is now Islam that political parties across Europe seek to appease. Not least by stifling any criticism of Islam by calling 'hate crime' and invoking criminal penalties. Sadly it is Europeans who hold positions similar to yours that play into the hands of the appeasers.

You see no problem with being hostile to the 'religion' of Islam - Islam is much more than a religion; it is an all-embracing philosophy - or with opposing large scale immigration. That position would immediately, in the eyes of your fellow socialists, place you on the side of the supposedly 'right wing' parties. Parties which are absurdly and inaccurately labelled as 'fascist' by their opponents.
 
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