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Justice Department preparing for Mueller report as early as next week

Exactice said:
This might fall on deaf ears, BUT I have a funny odd questions.

1) Trump is accused by some as a Russian Agent?
2) Accused of Acting on behalf of Russian
3) Colluding to interfere with the 2016 Elections


OK Just add that ALL in there..... So let me get this straight as HONESTLY these are serious thoughts an allegations.


1) We know that the Republicans initiated the Dossier research, but abandoned it and DNC/HRC took it. I am kinda curious why the RNC abandoned it in the first place?
2) Devin Nunes, Paul Ryan, Trey Gowdy, Jason Chafettes, Jim Jordan (Out spoken Repubs and some that have left political life) I ask, If they thought Trump for a Russian spy... or even a hint or even an actual concern PERIOD. Regardless of political Affiliation, WHY in the hell would Republicans Support him even if there is a HINT of Russians. I mean would that not indicate that Russians has "penetrated" the RNC?

3) Lindsey Graham, Mike Pompeo, Rod Rosentien, Christopher Wray, Judge Kavanaugh. Power full people, people appointed by Trump and STILL working for Trump in positions of knowledge and power. THE access of intelligence even beyond JUST Mueller investigation if even had a HINT that Trump was an ACTUAL agent of Russian.... Would these people that work and support the administration then be in cahoots with Russia?



Its Kinda funny actually as a Majority of the RNC supports Trump (assuming) as well as the electorate voted for Trump. ALL the Powerful people prior to 2018 that had control of the major houses and intelligence would see SOME type of concern if there really was IN FACT a russian spy in the White house no? I mean should we actually accuse the RNC of supporting Russia, as they are the ones that got Trump elected right?
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No the Republicans had nothing to do with the dossier...


Hard to believe that talking point is still around. Steele was hired AFTER The Washington Free Beacon dropped Fusion GPS.

It wasn't the " Republicans, or the RNC, it was a Conservative News outlet that initially hired Fusion GPS

The Clinton campaign sought dirt on Trump from Russian officials. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...e4be12-9672-11e8-810c-5fa705927d54_story.html
 
MauiMan said:
Here you go. A link to the AP article is provided. Enjoy.

“prosecutors have homed in on the repeated contacts between Manafort and his longtime associate, Konstantin Kilimnik, who the FBI says has ties to the Russia’s military intelligence agency”

“Manafort’s attorneys accidentally revealed that among the topics discussed by Manafort and Kilimnik during the election was a possible peace plan to resolve the Russia-Ukraine conflict in Crimea. They also disclosed that Manafort had shared polling data on the Trump campaign with Kilimnik.”

Prosecutor: Manafort meeting with Russian at heart of probe (from @AP) Prosecutor: Manafort meeting with Russian at heart of probe
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You keep pumping out this ****, but where is the indictment by Mueller for the crimes you suggest Manafort committed.
 
Fenton said:
No the Republicans had nothing to do with the dossier...


Hard to believe that talking point is still around. Steele was hired AFTER The Washington Free Beacon dropped Fusion GPS.

It wasn't the " Republicans, or the RNC, it was a Conservative News outlet that initially hired Fusion GPS

The Clinton campaign sought dirt on Trump from Russian officials. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...e4be12-9672-11e8-810c-5fa705927d54_story.html
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Thats kinda my point! =) But also thank you for clarifying.

ALL the Powerful Republicans in their need to know positions... WOULD NOT want a Russian in the Whitehouse right (assuming)? I mean if there was ACTUAL proof dont you think even the Full blown Republicans Would try to get him out if he was an "Agent of Russia"?
 
Born Free said:
Sure Manafort is a crook but not what you want to accuse him of. There is not any crime of collusion with any Russians that Mueller indicted him on. If I'm wrong prove it.
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Manafort colluded with the Russians during the campaign. But, collusion is not a crime, so it logically follows that he cannot be charged with that.
 
Kobie said:
Wait, did ludin say it was the judge acting badly? On what planet?
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Neptune. Stone was publicly intimidating the judge. The man is a walking, talking cartoon character.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
It's hard to fathom that Barr and Mueller are good friends, given Barr's rather idiotic ideas about the law, mass incarcerations, presidential power, etc... but it this is true it clearly shows that there's a good chance it all comes out.
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Maybe, maybe not. The main problem is that the DOJ and its relationship with the White House has been built on a number of traditions that are intended to engender public trust. That trust has so perfectly imploded now that the wall between the DOJ and the WH has crumbled that it is quite literally only through a damning report that would demand impeachment could there be any conclusion that Barr's supervision of the investigation and his handling of the report were legitimate. To believe otherwise assumes that the public trust is not a factor in a Democratic government.
 
1. Collusion is not a crime. Conspiracy would be.
2. Looking like no evidence exists.
3. How psycho are democrats and liberal news media going to go if the Mueller investigation says its a big nothing burger, or no reasonable prosecutor would touch this case.
 
apdst said:
Only if there's probable cause. In the case of the Russia! investigation, there was no probable cause.
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Not according to the Department of Justice.
 
VanceMack said:
A few minutes with a Constitution might help you.
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It’s easy to read. I’ve read it, and all Americans should it, in my opinion. If you think it’s so easy to interpret, what do we need all these Federal judges and lawyers for? Have you ever read through a Supreme Court decision? They aren’t simple.

I guess we don’t need all that. We can just pose legal questions to forums like this.
 
ElChupacabra said:
If there's nothing conclusive, then yes.
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Oh, it won’t matter if there’s something conclusive. Then we will hear about “alternative facts”, and cries of “fake” report. On and on...guaranteed.
 
Fenton said:
The FBIs Counter Intelligence investigation STARTED IN THE SUMMER OF 2016

Lol ! What the hell man ? Look, McCabe is under a criminal investigation for lying to investigators, so maybe it's a good idea to take what he says with a grain of salt.


Prosecutors use grand jury as investigation of Andrew McCabe intensifies

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...922b2e-b137-11e8-9a6a-565d92a3585d_story.html


As for firing Comey ? Trump acted on ROSENSTEINS RECOMMENDATION.

Also, here's what Andrew McCabe said under oath in front of the Senate panel in 20017..


,[] " There has been no effort to impede our investigation to date,”

He followed that up with... .”You cannot stop the men and women of the FBI from doing the right thing, protecting the American people and upholding the Constitution."

Look, sooner or later you people are going to have to wake up to the fact that you've been taken for a 2 year long ride by the MSM and the Democrats.

Conservatives didn't lie to you, or manipulate you, hell we've been trying to help. CNN, MSNBC, The NYTs, WaPo, etc lied to you as did every low life Democrat politician
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Baloney. Give me many examples of MSM lies—defend your statement.
 
Born Free said:
How can Trump be guilty without proof? Without proof of a crime, there is no crime. Except for you liberals that want Trump killed no matter what. Just like you believed those woman that accused Kav of sexual assault without one piece of evidence to corroborate their claims. You love your mob rule, he's guilty hang that bastard. However Kav is now a SCJ in spite of their baseless claims.
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Do you know everything in the Mueller report?? If you don't how can you claim to know there's no crime??'
But hey no bias on your part, right?
 
Born Free said:
Sure Manafort is a crook but not what you want to accuse him of. There is not any crime of collusion with any Russians that Mueller indicted him on. If I'm wrong prove it.
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I already told you that collusion is not a crime. Indictment opens the door to investigation. If they find crimes, then they can prosecute. And they did, and he’s going to prison. Think of it his way: a cop pulls you over for a broken tail light. Then he sees a bag of white powder that looks like cocaine on your seat. If it is cocaine, you will be prosecuted and go to jail.
 
VanceMack said:
Good. Lets finally see the fruits of what happens when you allow a team of investigators to violate the Constitution and act like the Gestapo investigating every aspect of peoples lives without probable cause. Enough already.

If there is an allegation of Collusion between Trump and Russia...lets have it. And if not, Trump should pardon every single person those corrupt ****s indicted.
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Interesting...you were perfectly ok when they investigated Bill and Hillary Clinton. :roll:
 
Born Free said:
You keep pumping out this ****, but where is the indictment by Mueller for the crimes you suggest Manafort committed.
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Yes, I keep pumping facts. I explained how indictments work in my other post. You can read it there.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
It's hard to fathom that Barr and Mueller are good friends, given Barr's rather idiotic ideas about the law, mass incarcerations, presidential power, etc... but it this is true it clearly shows that there's a good chance it all comes out.
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I know, right??
 
bubbabgone said:
Well, ladies and gentlemen, combine that with Clapper's statement ( Mueller report may be ‘anti-climactic,' says ex-intelligence director | TheHill ) that



and what we have is a signal to prepare yourselves to either say "See ... there was nothing" or "He's guilty ... they just didn't have enough proof"

Round and round we'll still go ... but we already knew that, didn't we?
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of course, everyone knew this would happen, but if they can't produce clear evidence after all that they will be hearing about it come 2020, at minimum.
 
Exactice said:
Thats kinda my point! =) But also thank you for clarifying.

ALL the Powerful Republicans in their need to know positions... WOULD NOT want a Russian in the Whitehouse right (assuming)? I mean if there was ACTUAL proof dont you think even the Full blown Republicans Would try to get him out if he was an "Agent of Russia"?
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They desperately did not want Clinton in there. Trump clinched the nomination against the will of the RNC, so they had no choice but to ride the Trump wave.
 
NeverTrump said:
I agree w/McCabe, the Mueller report better stay in the news at least a week, it should be a month or more. Considering what these ex-intelligence agents are saying. It's like the report will prove without a doubt that Trump is a Russian Asset.
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and if it doesn't?
 
joko104 said:
I wonder if the love orgy of Mueller by the Democratic Party will turn to a hate fest with the report - the way their hate fest of Comey turned into a love affair?
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One thing is sure. Whether he's indicted or not, Trump has had a Russian love orgy while in office and before. But, no, the very idea of collusion is unthinkable.
 
Integrityrespec said:
1. Collusion is not a crime. Conspiracy would be.
2. Looking like no evidence exists.
3. How psycho are democrats and liberal news media going to go if the Mueller investigation says its a big nothing burger, or no reasonable prosecutor would touch this case.
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I know, right? Why is everyone here obsessed with collusion? It is not a crime. No one, I repeat, no one can be convicted of collusion. Criminal conspiracy is a crime, and I would be utterly astonished if Mueller’s report reaches that conclusion.
 
ludin said:
If the police are looking at something that you did and find a bloody knife even if it isn't related to the initial search they can bring in new charges.
the fact is that they were looking at a crime and found other related crimes. it happens all the time.

the only thing that protects you is unreasonable searches. if they are looking at one thing and find something else there is nothing unconstitutional about it.

it is not different than a criminal getting pulled over for a traffic stop and then getting busted on a warrant or busted for having drugs in the car.
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this is true. now did this bring to light any possible transgressions we can investigate eh other side about? if we are going to weed out corruption in the government we may as well be thorough.
 
Oh that's too easy


NPR Forced to issue a correction after peddling Fake News about Donald Trump Jr
ICYMI: NPR Was Taken To The Woodshed For Peddling Straight Fake News About Donald Trump Jr.



Mueller shoots down BuzzFeed fake news
Mueller's office disputes BuzzFeed report that Trump directed Michael Cohen to lie to Congress - CNNPolitics


CNN forced to retract Fake News story about Anthony Scaramucci's ties to a Russian hedgfund
https://www.washingtonpost.com/life...a21a8e006ab_story.html?utm_term=.c67823c532b9



Three CNN staffer's resigned over Fake News story about Russian investment with ties to Trump Officials
CNN staffer who resigned over retracted Russia story named interim head of CBSNews.com


ABC News fires Brian Ross over General Flynn fake news.
ABC News Suspends Brian Ross Over Bad Michael Flynn Report | Deadline

I can keep going if you want. The list is endless, but I think you get the picture
 
Born Free said:
How can Trump be guilty without proof? Without proof of a crime, there is no crime.
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You can't even imagine how utterly moronic is that statement. You might as well have asked if a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to hear it, does it make a sound?

Except for you liberals that want Trump killed no matter what.
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More of your typical baseless stupidity.
 
jghiretire said:
Interesting...you were perfectly ok when they investigated Bill and Hillary Clinton. :roll:
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Im perfectly OK with an investigation of Bill...for perjury charges...because there was evidence of perjury (like...actual audio tape)and because...oh yeah...he committed perjury. Im perfectly fine with an investigation into Hillary Clinton because she lied about using private email, lied about what she sent on her private email, lied about sending classified material, and then destroyed evidence. And you know what...if you had actual evidence of collusion of Trump that didnt involve a bull**** dossier bought and paid for by an opposition political party that was unsubstantiated and lied about, then I wouldnt have a problem at all with an investigation of Trump. As it is, I have REPEATEDLY called for a COMPLETE investigation of the 2016 election...both sides, including the actions of senior leaders in the intel community that are on film lying to congress.

So try again...you just failed. Miserably.
 
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