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You are correct. But he did collude with them.
He didn't even do that.
You are correct. But he did collude with them.
Cohen “jumped on a grenade” for Trump. How’s that working for him?
Only if there's probable cause. In the case of the Russia! investigation, there was no probable cause.
Whitaker was in above his head. Not qualified for the position.
where is manforts collusion or conspiracy charge then if i am wrong.
please provide it.
Yes there was and McCabe told us what some of that was.
"There were a number of things that caused us to believe that we had adequate predication or adequate reason and facts, to open the investigation. The president had been speaking in a derogatory way about our investigative efforts for weeks, describing it as a witch hunt… publicly undermining the effort of the investigation. The president had gone to Jim Comey and specifically asked him to discontinue the investigation of Mike Flynn which was a part of our Russia case. The president, then, fired the director. In the firing of the director, the president specifically asked Rod Rosenstein to write the memo justifying the firing and told Rod to include Russia in the memo. Rod, of course, did not do that. That was on the president's mind. Then, the president made those public comments that you've referenced both on NBC and to the Russians which was captured in the Oval Office. Put together, these circumstances were articulable facts that indicated that a crime may have been committed. The president may have been engaged in obstruction of justice in the firing of Jim Comey."
“Articulable facts” is a reference to the standard for opening a full FBI investigation as set out in the Attorney General’s Guidelines, which require “an articulable factual basis ... that reasonably indicates” that an “activity constituting a federal crime or a threat to the national security has or may have occurred, is or may be occurring, or will or may occur,” and that the investigation “may obtain information relating to the activity or the involvement or role of an individual, group, or organization in such activity.”
Definition of collude
intransitive verb
"to work together secretly especially in order to do something illegal or dishonest : CONSPIRE, PLOT"
Manafort did not commit any crime, if he did he was not charged with one, or do something illegal or dishonest, to conspire or polt a crime.
He didn't even do that.
Yes there was and McCabe told us what some of that was.
"There were a number of things that caused us to believe that we had adequate predication or adequate reason and facts, to open the investigation. The president had been speaking in a derogatory way about our investigative efforts for weeks, describing it as a witch hunt… publicly undermining the effort of the investigation. The president had gone to Jim Comey and specifically asked him to discontinue the investigation of Mike Flynn which was a part of our Russia case. The president, then, fired the director. In the firing of the director, the president specifically asked Rod Rosenstein to write the memo justifying the firing and told Rod to include Russia in the memo. Rod, of course, did not do that. That was on the president's mind. Then, the president made those public comments that you've referenced both on NBC and to the Russians which was captured in the Oval Office. Put together, these circumstances were articulable facts that indicated that a crime may have been committed. The president may have been engaged in obstruction of justice in the firing of Jim Comey."
“Articulable facts” is a reference to the standard for opening a full FBI investigation as set out in the Attorney General’s Guidelines, which require “an articulable factual basis ... that reasonably indicates” that an “activity constituting a federal crime or a threat to the national security has or may have occurred, is or may be occurring, or will or may occur,” and that the investigation “may obtain information relating to the activity or the involvement or role of an individual, group, or organization in such activity.”
Yes, he did.
Well, ladies and gentlemen, combine that with Clapper's statement ( Mueller report may be ‘anti-climactic,' says ex-intelligence director | TheHill ) that
and what we have is a signal to prepare yourselves to either say "See ... there was nothing" or "He's guilty ... they just didn't have enough proof"
Round and round we'll still go ... but we already knew that, didn't we?
Yeah really, I was wondering what the payoff was.
If you're defending a guy that you think is your hero, and you notice he's crapping all over the last eight guys who tried to defend him, aren't you supposed to be that ninth guy who suddenly realizes that it just isn't worth it?
When does that common sense and self-preservation kick in?
But, then again, we should look to the past and see the reality, HUNDREDS of people fell on swords and fell on grenades to protect a madman...and by "hundreds" I mean hundreds of the top-most elites.
Almost the entire inner circle committed suicide at the very end.
Maybe that's what we're dealing with? (shudder)
Naw. Mathew Whitaker is a buffoon. Trump picked him because of his ant-Mueller rhetoric on CNN—that was his only qualification. Trump wanted a flunky. Here’s some of his ridiculous background:
“In a pitch-perfect Trumpian twist, it turns out that before ascending to his current role, Matthew Whitaker was also a cartoonish, grifting dope who shilled for a company that hawked time-travel cryptocurrencies, Bigfoot dolls, and toilets specially designed for men with big dicks—and that was shut down for good and paid a $26 million fine to the Federal Trade Commission earlier this year for its alleged wrongdoing.” — GQ
Trump'''s New "Attorney General" Has a Long History of Absurd Scams | GQ
When?
I agree w/McCabe, the Mueller report better stay in the news at least a week, it should be a month or more. Considering what these ex-intelligence agents are saying. It's like the report will prove without a doubt that Trump is a Russian Asset.
That has nothing to do with Crossfire Hurricane which took place in 2016.
It was a poor interview and bad showing by McCabe:
1. The president had been speaking derogatorily about the investigation because he argued it was a political act. He said he didn't collude.
2. To what extent did the investigation undermine the Trump Admin? We both know it has.
3. He suggested to Comey that Flynn had been punished enough. It's the kind of observation prosecutors make everyday.
4. Comey was not fired because he continued investigating Flynn.
5. How much of the Russia investigation was Trump privy? Did he know Flynn was central to it?
6. What about Russia was on the president's mind? How about the fact that Comey had privately told him he was not under investigation, but refusing to publically state it? This is what Trump stated in that NBC interview.
Well, ladies and gentlemen, combine that with Clapper's statement ( Mueller report may be ‘anti-climactic,' says ex-intelligence director | TheHill ) that
and what we have is a signal to prepare yourselves to either say "See ... there was nothing" or "He's guilty ... they just didn't have enough proof"
Round and round we'll still go ... but we already knew that, didn't we?
Wait, did ludin say it was the judge acting badly? On what planet?
Mueller's team keeps them related, Stone's team contests, the Judge affirms Mueller keeping it as a "related case". But Ludin's betting on Stone and figures that's evidence of judicial misconduct I suppose. Maybe we'll here some "lock her up" later.The fact is that manafort conviction came under things not related to the campaign in fact done years before the campaign even happened.
the judge in the stone case is setting herself up for a mistrial the way she is acting.
Yes there was and McCabe told us what some of that was.
"There were a number of things that caused us to believe that we had adequate predication or adequate reason and facts, to open the investigation. The president had been speaking in a derogatory way about our investigative efforts for weeks, describing it as a witch hunt… publicly undermining the effort of the investigation. The president had gone to Jim Comey and specifically asked him to discontinue the investigation of Mike Flynn which was a part of our Russia case. The president, then, fired the director. In the firing of the director, the president specifically asked Rod Rosenstein to write the memo justifying the firing and told Rod to include Russia in the memo. Rod, of course, did not do that. That was on the president's mind. Then, the president made those public comments that you've referenced both on NBC and to the Russians which was captured in the Oval Office. Put together, these circumstances were articulable facts that indicated that a crime may have been committed. The president may have been engaged in obstruction of justice in the firing of Jim Comey."
“Articulable facts” is a reference to the standard for opening a full FBI investigation as set out in the Attorney General’s Guidelines, which require “an articulable factual basis ... that reasonably indicates” that an “activity constituting a federal crime or a threat to the national security has or may have occurred, is or may be occurring, or will or may occur,” and that the investigation “may obtain information relating to the activity or the involvement or role of an individual, group, or organization in such activity.”
The FBIs Counter Intelligence investigation STARTED IN THE SUMMER OF 2016
Lol ! What the hell man ? Look, McCabe is under a criminal investigation for lying to investigators, so maybe it's a good idea to take what he says with a grain of salt.
Prosecutors use grand jury as investigation of Andrew McCabe intensifies
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...922b2e-b137-11e8-9a6a-565d92a3585d_story.html
As for firing Comey ? Trump acted on ROSENSTEINS RECOMMENDATION.
Also, here's what Andrew McCabe said under oath in front of the Senate panel in 20017..
,[] " There has been no effort to impede our investigation to date,”
He followed that up with... .”You cannot stop the men and women of the FBI from doing the right thing, protecting the American people and upholding the Constitution."
Look, sooner or later you people are going to have to wake up to the fact that you've been taken for a 2 year long ride by the MSM and the Democrats.
Conservatives didn't lie to you, or manipulate you, hell we've been trying to help. CNN, MSNBC, The NYTs, WaPo, etc lied to you as did every low life Democrat politician
col·lu·sion Dictionary result for collusion
/kəˈlo͞oZHən
noun
secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy, especially in order to cheat or deceive others.
I’ll play your silly semantic game. Manafort is a crook, and you know it. Your just so completely intransigent you can’t bring yourself to accept it. He’s going to prison for his crimes.
I wonder if the love orgy of Mueller by the Democratic Party will turn to a hate fest with the report - the way their hate fest of Comey turned into a love affair?