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Trump Officials Tried To Give Nuclear Technology To Saudis

Sgt Meowenstein

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I hate to do the reverse ‘but Obama’ argument......BUT imagine if Obama officials did just this one thing (Trump officials are still pushing this btw) — never mind all of the other smoke coming out of this administration — if it came out during the Obama presidency that administration officials were trying to give nuclear weapons technology to Saudi Arabia, Republicans would have had immediate and extensive investigations, and would have started seriously talking impeachment.

[h=1]Trump Officials Tried To Rush Nuclear Technology To Saudis[/h]The Trump administration sought to rush the transfer of American nuclear technology to Saudi Arabia in potential violation of the law, a new report from the House Oversight and Reform Committee alleges.
Committee Chairman Elijah Cummings' staff issued an "interim staff" report Tuesday, citing "multiple whistleblowers" who raised ethical and legal concerns about the process.
"They have warned about political appointees ignoring directives from top ethics advisers at the White House who repeatedly and unsuccessfully ordered senior Trump administration officials to halt their efforts," the report states. "They have also warned of conflicts of interest among top White House advisers that could implicate federal criminal statutes."

The committee's report alleges that the major drivers behind the effort to transfer U.S. nuclear technology were retired Gen. Michael Flynn, who served as the president's national security adviser, and Thomas Barrack, who chaired Trumps 's inauguration committee. Flynn was fired in February 2017 for lying about conversations with the Russian ambassador to Vice President Pence and the FBI.
For about seven months in 2016, including during the presidential transition, Flynn served as an adviser to IP3 International, a private company seeking to build nuclear plants in Saudi Arabia.


The whistleblowers told the committee that Flynn continued to advocate for IP3's plan even after he joined the White House as the president's national security adviser in 2017.
The Atomic Energy Act requires that Congress approve any transfer of nuclear technology to a foreign country. The committee's report states that a senior director at the National Security Council (NSC), Derek Harvey, "reportedly ignored ... warnings and insisted that the decision to transfer nuclear technology to Saudi Arabia had already been made."








 
SA could purchase nuke tech just like any other rich Muslim country. It's not a secret.
 
Sgt Meowenstein said:
I hate to do the reverse ‘but Obama’ argument......BUT imagine if Obama officials did just this one thing (Trump officials are still pushing this btw) — never mind all of the other smoke coming out of this administration — if it came out during the Obama presidency that administration officials were trying to give nuclear weapons technology to Saudi Arabia, Republicans would have had immediate and extensive investigations, and would have started seriously talking impeachment.

[h=1]Trump Officials Tried To Rush Nuclear Technology To Saudis[/h]The Trump administration sought to rush the transfer of American nuclear technology to Saudi Arabia in potential violation of the law, a new report from the House Oversight and Reform Committee alleges.
Committee Chairman Elijah Cummings' staff issued an "interim staff" report Tuesday, citing "multiple whistleblowers" who raised ethical and legal concerns about the process.
"They have warned about political appointees ignoring directives from top ethics advisers at the White House who repeatedly and unsuccessfully ordered senior Trump administration officials to halt their efforts," the report states. "They have also warned of conflicts of interest among top White House advisers that could implicate federal criminal statutes."

The committee's report alleges that the major drivers behind the effort to transfer U.S. nuclear technology were retired Gen. Michael Flynn, who served as the president's national security adviser, and Thomas Barrack, who chaired Trumps 's inauguration committee. Flynn was fired in February 2017 for lying about conversations with the Russian ambassador to Vice President Pence and the FBI.
For about seven months in 2016, including during the presidential transition, Flynn served as an adviser to IP3 International, a private company seeking to build nuclear plants in Saudi Arabia.


The whistleblowers told the committee that Flynn continued to advocate for IP3's plan even after he joined the White House as the president's national security adviser in 2017.
The Atomic Energy Act requires that Congress approve any transfer of nuclear technology to a foreign country. The committee's report states that a senior director at the National Security Council (NSC), Derek Harvey, "reportedly ignored ... warnings and insisted that the decision to transfer nuclear technology to Saudi Arabia had already been made."
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By definition, advisors "advise". They do not "direct" or "order".

Moving on...
 
Mycroft said:
By definition, advisors "advise". They do not "direct" or "order".

Moving on...
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The Atomic Energy Act requires that Congress approve any transfer of nuclear technology to a foreign country. The committee's report states that a senior director at the National Security Council (NSC), Derek Harvey, "reportedly ignored ... warnings and insisted that the decision to transfer nuclear technology to Saudi Arabia had already been made."
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It sounds like Congress is required to make the final decision. Since Congress was not even consulted, someone has some explaining to do. Let's have an investigation.
 
Sgt Meowenstein said:
Good excuse comrade
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Umm there is nothing illegal about selling nuclear engergy tech to countries.
we do it all the time.

In fact for non-nuclear countries to build plants they have to buy it from licensed nuclear countries.
IE the US, the UK etc ...

You seriously need to educate yourself before you trying screaming scandal.

Saudi Arabia’s nuclear power deal with the US, explained - Vox

just so you can't claim bias of any kind.

Currently, Riyadh is in talks with firms from more than 10 countries about buying nuclear technology to build its first two reactors — and American firms are top candidates. But before any US sale, the Trump administration needs to strike a nuclear cooperation pact, known as a “123 agreement,” with Saudi Arabia. In those agreements, countries make promises about how they will and won’t use the powerful nuclear equipment they could buy from the US in the future.
 
Stealers Wheel said:
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It sounds like Congress is required to make the final decision. Since Congress was not even consulted, someone has some explaining to do. Let's have an investigation.
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Not really unless they can show that it has already been showed to my knowledge the deal hasn't even been made yet for congress to approve.
 
ludin said:
Umm there is nothing illegal about selling nuclear engergy tech to countries.
we do it all the time.

In fact for non-nuclear countries to build plants they have to buy it from licensed nuclear countries.
IE the US, the UK etc ...

You seriously need to educate yourself before you trying screaming scandal.

Saudi Arabia’s nuclear power deal with the US, explained - Vox

just so you can't claim bias of any kind.

Currently, Riyadh is in talks with firms from more than 10 countries about buying nuclear technology to build its first two reactors — and American firms are top candidates. But before any US sale, the Trump administration needs to strike a nuclear cooperation pact, known as a “123 agreement,” with Saudi Arabia. In those agreements, countries make promises about how they will and won’t use the powerful nuclear equipment they could buy from the US in the future.
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Lmao. Uranium One deal has you foaming at the mouth and this scandal has you not caring. That’s just a great example of what’s wrong with trump supporters.
 
Khayembii Communique said:
Lmao. Uranium One deal has you foaming at the mouth and this scandal has you not caring. That’s just a great example of what’s wrong with trump supporters.
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what scandal?
there isn't one.

the deal hasn't been made and it is 100% legal to sell nuclear energy technology. We do it all the time.

you don't know the difference between this and uranium one then you cannot honestly
discuss this topic. not that you had any intention of an honest discussion anyway.
 
Sgt Meowenstein said:
Good excuse comrade
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Is there anyone with an IQ greater than that of a rock think your post/attempted insult "good excuse comrade" think that is an effective debate point???
 
Oh, it's just NPR. Let's get this thread moved to the Conspiracy Theories section, please? Thank You!
 
ludin said:
what scandal?
there isn't one.

the deal hasn't been made and it is 100% legal to sell nuclear energy technology. We do it all the time.

you don't know the difference between this and uranium one then you cannot honestly
discuss this topic. not that you had any intention of an honest discussion anyway.
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Neither did you, so let's be frank. You love Trump and you hate anything/one that goes against him.

Thus you have no credibility.
 
Sgt Meowenstein said:
I hate to do the reverse ‘but Obama’ argument......BUT imagine if Obama officials did just this one thing (Trump officials are still pushing this btw) — never mind all of the other smoke coming out of this administration — if it came out during the Obama presidency that administration officials were trying to give nuclear weapons technology to Saudi Arabia, Republicans would have had immediate and extensive investigations, and would have started seriously talking impeachment.
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Sadly, it appears that for many conservatives love of Trump, and the values he extols such as racism and fear of the unknown, are much more important to them than their country.

Maybe they see Trump as the saviour of themselves and their White Supremacist friends and family, and their desire to Make America White....er Great ... Again?
 
Obscurity said:
Neither did you, so let's be frank. You love Trump and you hate anything/one that goes against him.

Thus you have no credibility.
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i am waiting for someone to show me where it is illegal to sell nuclear technology to other countries considering we are one of the countries that they have to
buy it from.

Ol actually I do know the difference.

uranium 1 was a pay to play scam run by clintons.
they made bank on it.
the Russians made bank on it
and the guy that setup the whole deal made bank on it as well.

says the person that can't actually address the topic or the argument
so please tell us what is illegal about selling nuclear energy technology since we do it all the time
and are one of the countries that people have to buy it from.

I will be waiting for your response to the actual topic.
 
ludin said:
what scandal?
there isn't one.

the deal hasn't been made and it is 100% legal to sell nuclear energy technology. We do it all the time.

you don't know the difference between this and uranium one then you cannot honestly
discuss this topic. not that you had any intention of an honest discussion anyway.
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There's zero evidence of the right wing zany Uranium One scandal. Yet Trump has blatant connections to the heads of Rosatom, the organization you're so mad Hillary allegedly sold the uranium to in a quid pro quo. On that topic of course, crickets from you.

Then Trump admin it's found out wants to sell secrets to an actual terrorist government and you don't care. In fact we could go further and point out the hypocrisy of how foaming at the mouth you were about Iran developing nukes, and then using the exact arguments against that particular conspiracy theory to attempt to discredit this report.

Trump cult hypocrisy knows no bounds.
 
American said:
Comrade? You do know that France sells a ****load of nuke tech, don't you?
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you cannot have logical discussions with TDS'ers and leftists they simply do not care about facts.
 
Khayembii Communique said:
There's zero evidence of the right wing zany Uranium One scandal. Yet Trump has blatant connections to the heads of Rosatom, the organization you're so mad Hillary allegedly sold the uranium to in a quid pro quo. On that topic of course, crickets from you.

Then Trump admin it's found out wants to sell secrets to an actual terrorist government and you don't care. In fact we could go further and point out the hypocrisy of how foaming at the mouth you were about Iran developing nukes, and then using the exact arguments against that particular conspiracy theory to attempt to discredit this report.

Trump cult hypocrisy knows no bounds.
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:doh they are not selling secrets. We are one of the 10 listed countries that are allowed to sell nuclear energy technology to developing countries.
in fact they have to come to US or the UK, germany, France etc... to buy the tech to begin with.


please educate yourself on the topic before posting. you have no clue what you are talking about.
you are simply spouting nonsense.

there is a difference in iran developing nukes than SA using nuclear energy.
they are not one in the same nor are they even remotely related.
 
ludin said:
there is a difference in iran developing nukes.
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:doh they are not developing nukes. please educate yourself on the topic before posting. you have no clue what you are talking about. you are simply spouting nonsense.
 
Khayembii Communique said:
:doh they are not developing nukes. please educate yourself on the topic before posting. you have no clue what you are talking about. you are simply spouting nonsense.
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please show me where it is illegal for us to sell nuclear energy technology when we are one of the 10 countries that people have to come to buy it.
you still have yet to do this and this is the 5th time i have asked you for it. yes you are spouting nonsense to the point you keep deflecting.
as i said it is not possible for you to have an honest discussion otherwise you would answer the question.
 
ludin said:
please show me where it is illegal for us to sell nuclear energy technology when we are one of the 10 countries that people have to come to buy it.
you still have yet to do this and this is the 5th time i have asked you for it. yes you are spouting nonsense to the point you keep deflecting.
as i said it is not possible for you to have an honest discussion otherwise you would answer the question.
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You're just misrepresenting. Do you know why this is story is newsworthy? Because it has nothing to do with just "selling nuclear energy technology".
 
Khayembii Communique said:
You're just misrepresenting. Do you know why this is story is newsworthy? Because it has nothing to do with just "selling nuclear energy technology".
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This deal was posted back in may of last year. this isn't some big secret.
i did a simple google search and found it back last year.

again as i said you have no clue what you are talking about. you are simply spouting nonsense,
and still deflect in answering the question.

please show me where it is illegal to sell nuclear energy technology when we are one of the 10 countries that people
have to go to in order to buy it.

i even posted an article in this very thread showing that this was being discussed last year it wasn't some secret that no one knew about.
 
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