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Trump Officials Tried To Give Nuclear Technology To Saudis

This deal was posted back in may of last year. this isn't some big secret.
i did a simple google search and found it back last year.

again as i said you have no clue what you are talking about. you are simply spouting nonsense,
and still deflect in answering the question.

please show me where it is illegal to sell nuclear energy technology when we are one of the 10 countries that people
have to go to in order to buy it.

i even posted an article in this very thread showing that this was being discussed last year it wasn't some secret that no one knew about.

This isn't about "selling nuclear energy technology". How many times does it have to be said before you stop lying?

Read the OP article. Trump cronies were trying to do it without Congressional approval. That is illegal.

The Atomic Energy Act requires that Congress approve any transfer of nuclear technology to a foreign country. The committee's report states that a senior director at the National Security Council (NSC), Derek Harvey, "reportedly ignored ... warnings and insisted that the decision to transfer nuclear technology to Saudi Arabia had already been made."

Do you understand now? This is very simple to understand.
 
it is 100% legal to sell nuclear energy technology. We do it all the time.

Tell me, is it perfectly OK if in the process of putting the deal together, Jared Kushner pockets a few $million for himself?
 
Neither did you, so let's be frank. You love Trump and you hate anything/one that goes against him.

Thus you have no credibility.

^ That message is nothing but an attempt to derail the topic to a generic ranting against Trump supporters.
 
Comrade? You do know that France sells a ****load of nuke tech, don't you?

Possibly the point is they want Saudi Arabia to buy nuclear power plant technology from France or anyone but the USA as a general policy of wanting as many American jobs lost as possible - for whatever their reasons to want the USA and Americans to be punished and suffer for the evils of the past. The USA can not stop any other country from selling nuclear technology and equipment to Saudi Arabia.
 
Umm there is nothing illegal about selling nuclear engergy tech to countries.
we do it all the time.

In fact for non-nuclear countries to build plants they have to buy it from licensed nuclear countries.
IE the US, the UK etc ...

You seriously need to educate yourself before you trying screaming scandal.

Saudi Arabia’s nuclear power deal with the US, explained - Vox

just so you can't claim bias of any kind.

Currently, Riyadh is in talks with firms from more than 10 countries about buying nuclear technology to build its first two reactors — and American firms are top candidates. But before any US sale, the Trump administration needs to strike a nuclear cooperation pact, known as a “123 agreement,” with Saudi Arabia. In those agreements, countries make promises about how they will and won’t use the powerful nuclear equipment they could buy from the US in the future.

It’s a problem. You don’t just sell nuclear technology willy-nilly. There’s a procedure and congressional approval is required by law. There is now an investigation:

Multiple Whistleblowers Raise Grave Concerns with White House Efforts to Transfer Sensitive U.S. Nuclear Technology to Saudi Arabia | House Committee on Oversight and Reform
 
Not really unless they can show that it has already been showed to my knowledge the deal hasn't even been made yet for congress to approve.


There is evidence the deal is on-going. According to the House Oversight Committee Interim Report:

“Despite these concerns, the White House appears to be proceeding. As recently as February 12, 2019, the President reportedly met with nuclear power developers at the White House to discuss sharing nuclear technology with Saudi Arabia.”

This demand letter was sent by the Oversight Committee to the White House:

https://oversight.house.gov/sites/d...iles/2019-02-19.EEC to Mulvaney-WH re IP3.pdf
 
Sadly, it appears that for many conservatives love of Trump, and the values he extols such as racism and fear of the unknown, are much more important to them than their country.

Maybe they see Trump as the saviour of themselves and their White Supremacist friends and family, and their desire to Make America White....er Great ... Again?

Red:
And, quite frankly, more than their and their friends, family and descendents' safety....SA, the country from which hailed the majority of the 9/11 attackers, is an absolute monarchy, and as such, is only as durable as is its royal family, and strictly speaking, its king. Get rid of him/them and, as happened with many a European monarchy, regime change, which is concomitant with ISIS' raisons d'etre, becomes very real.
Furthermore, there's no "duly elected" aspect to who rules that country; thus the global community hasn't a legitimate say in the matter.

The nation has "God only knows how many" ISIS sympathizers, and rich ones, no less, thus a few is enough. It's not as though there tens of thousands of ISIS folks appeared in Syria or Iraq at the wave of a wand.


And besides, if SA wants nuclear technology, Lord knows is has enough money and enough Saudis attend Western universities that SA should have physicists who can develop it independently. Whether SA does or doesn't have that intellectual capital, however, isn't the point. The point is we don't have to abide their getting it, and certainly not at personal gain to government officials.

And another thing: SA veritably floats on a sea of oil. Why should SA have a pressing need for nuclear technology? For Christ's sake, gasoline is $0.54/gallon in SA. SA doesn't need a cheaper source of fuel. Then there's also the matter that of all the places in the world that are prime locales for availing themselves of solar energy, SA is one of them; the deserts of countries on or in the tropics are very good places to build solar energy collection plants. As a source of energy, the last thing SA needs is nuclear energy, and given that the tech for nuclear power plants is essentially the same tech needed to build nuclear weapons, the last thing the rest of the world needs is a overthrow-able absolute monarchy that has rich ISIS sympathizers in it having that tech but a coup d'etat away from ISIS' hands.
 
Saudi Arabia Isn't just an Islamic nation. It's a Wahhabist nation. It's official religion is litterally a radical version of Islam, and related to slafism, which is the version of Islam that ISIS subscribes to. They've sponsered terrorism all over the world and most of the 9/11 hi-jackers were Saudis.

It's somehow dangerous to make a deal with a Shia nation to unfreeze their own assets in exchange for a halt in any attempt at building a nuclear program, yet helping a nation that's in the grip of one of the most dangerous idealogies in the world obtain nuclear weapons is just fine and dandy.

This is ****ing nuts.
 
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Sadly, it appears that for many conservatives love of Trump, and the values he extols such as racism and fear of the unknown, are much more important to them than their country.

Maybe they see Trump as the saviour of themselves and their White Supremacist friends and family, and their desire to Make America White....er Great ... Again?

Yeah, going to need to see some form of citation for these.
 
:doh they are not selling secrets. We are one of the 10 listed countries that are allowed to sell nuclear energy technology to developing countries.
in fact they have to come to US or the UK, germany, France etc... to buy the tech to begin with.


please educate yourself on the topic before posting. you have no clue what you are talking about.
you are simply spouting nonsense.

there is a difference in iran developing nukes than SA using nuclear energy.
they are not one in the same nor are they even remotely related.

:doh they are not developing nukes. please educate yourself on the topic before posting. you have no clue what you are talking about. you are simply spouting nonsense.

And he's just reduced himself to repeating you... yeah. Should've know he was going to fall back onto that eventually.
 
please show me where it is illegal for us to sell nuclear energy technology when we are one of the 10 countries that people have to come to buy it.
you still have yet to do this and this is the 5th time i have asked you for it. yes you are spouting nonsense to the point you keep deflecting.
as i said it is not possible for you to have an honest discussion otherwise you would answer the question.

He can't do any of what you're asking. Just let him rot at this point, because you'll be getting nothing of substance out of him from here on.
 
Possibly the point is they want Saudi Arabia to buy nuclear power plant technology from France or anyone but the USA as a general policy of wanting as many American jobs lost as possible - for whatever their reasons to want the USA and Americans to be punished and suffer for the evils of the past. The USA can not stop any other country from selling nuclear technology and equipment to Saudi Arabia.

The Left is a very self-loathing group.
 
Tell me, is it perfectly OK if in the process of putting the deal together, Jared Kushner pockets a few $million for himself?

prove he did it first.
 
He can't do any of what you're asking. Just let him rot at this point, because you'll be getting nothing of substance out of him from here on.

ol i know that. i just like point it out to everyone else.
 
prove he did it first.

As I wrote earlier, let's have an investigation.

Remember when Kushner couldn't qualify for a security clearance? But once they discarded all the long-standing criteria, Kushner did get his clearance, over the objections of the professionals who are responsible for vetting? Remember that?

Why you suppose that is? Inquiring minds want to know.
 
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