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6-In-10 Disapprove Of Trump's Declaration Of A National Emergency

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Poll: 6-In-10 Disapprove Of Trump's Declaration Of A National Emergency

Poll: 6-In-10 Disapprove Of Trump National Emergency Declaration : NPR
NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist Poll Results: Declaration of a National Emergency | Home of the Marist Poll
More than 6-in-10 Americans disapprove of President Trump's decision to declare a national emergency so he can build barriers along the U.S border with Mexico, a new NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll finds.


Some key numbers from the poll:

--61 percent disapprove, 36 percent approve Trump declaring a national emergency to build a wall along the U.S.- Mexico border. (85 percent of Republicans approve, 84 percent of Democrats disapprove, 63 percent of independents disapprove)

--60 percent think his decision should be challenged in the courts, including 60 percent of independents
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As expected, such a foolish act of declaring a fake emergency would not be met well by the American public.
 
washunut said:
What percent of those polled could even name Obama's VP?
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Classic Joe.
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Sent from Trump Plaza's basement using Putin's MacBook.
 
VanCleef said:
Poll: 6-In-10 Disapprove Of Trump's Declaration Of A National Emergency

Poll: 6-In-10 Disapprove Of Trump National Emergency Declaration : NPR
NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist Poll Results: Declaration of a National Emergency | Home of the Marist Poll



As expected, such a foolish act of declaring a fake emergency would not be met well by the American public.
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Another poll that grossly undersamples Independents, undersamples Republicans and oversamples Democrats.

POLL REJECTED!!
 
VanCleef said:
Poll: 6-In-10 Disapprove Of Trump's Declaration Of A National Emergency

Poll: 6-In-10 Disapprove Of Trump National Emergency Declaration : NPR
NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist Poll Results: Declaration of a National Emergency | Home of the Marist Poll



As expected, such a foolish act of declaring a fake emergency would not be met well by the American public.
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I'm disappointed it wasn't 10 of 10.....

Even if you agree with the wall, it should be disturbing a President would use this to work around Congress. The worst part is that even though Trump is the prime example of why Congress should not be delegating it's powers to the Presidency, we have yet to see any serious legislation attempting to bring things back in line.
 
Mycroft said:
Another poll that grossly undersamples Independents, undersamples Republicans and oversamples Democrats.

POLL REJECTED!!
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So you reject random sampling, which is a key feature of a valid poll? Interesting.... and irrational! :roll:
 
Nap said:
I'm disappointed it wasn't 10 of 10.....

Even if you agree with the wall, it should be disturbing a President would use this to work around Congress. The worst part is that even though Trump is the prime example of why Congress should not be delegating it's powers to the Presidency, we have yet to see any serious legislation attempting to bring things back in line.
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He's owning the libs and that's all that matters in this era for the remaining Republicans. If/when Pres. Bernie tries it, they'll call it an impeachable power grab, because IOKIYAR and owning the libs, but not OK otherwise. Etc..

What I can't believe is McConnell is going along with Trump undermining the power of the Senate and the Congress as a whole. If Trump wins in court it's going to set a really bad precedent.
 
I'm surprised it's so low. We need better education in this country.
 
washunut said:
What percent of those polled could even name Obama's VP?
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Likely most of the 4 in 10...


Mycroft said:
Another poll that grossly undersamples Independents, undersamples Republicans and oversamples Democrats.

POLL REJECTED!!
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You really need to read up on how statistical sampling works. Oversampling is not what you think it is. Oversampling allows analysis of sub-groups within a population to increase the precision of the poll. The reason democrats are oversampled is that they have more sub-groups within their constituency. Oversampling does not mean they have more democrats than is representative of the population as a whole.

A sample is a sample... once you have 1100 members of a poll, you have sufficient population to render a valid projection on a population of 340M.

Its a shame that you continue to display your ignorance on that subject each time this issue shows up. Read up! Be informed! Know what you are talking about!


Sampling Methods for Political Polling - AAPOR
Weighting - AAPOR
Executive Summary - AAPOR
There Is No "Oversampling" Conspiracy to Sink Donald Trump's Polls - The Atlantic
Oversampling Is Not A Nefarious Democratic Plot | HuffPost
 
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JasperL said:
So you reject random sampling, which is a key feature of a valid poll? Interesting.... and irrational! :roll:
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No poll should use "random sampling". That creates inaccurate polls. And they don't use random sampling. They sample to get the result they want.
 
It doesn't matter politically what people think. It only matters what voters who vote think.

Remember, at one point Trump was less than 2% in polls and no poll ever showed a majority of people supporting him. If 40% of EVERYONE supports him he's got it in the bag!
 
Isn't it delightful how - after 3 years - so many Democrats STILL cite polls to prove that Donald Trump has no chance in an election? :lol:
 
Mycroft said:
No poll should use "random sampling". That creates inaccurate polls. And they don't use random sampling. They sample to get the result they want.
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Just let them talk, it really doesn't prove much in the long run.
Because how much of their polling BS proved to be completely wrong leading up to 2016?

A vast majority of it, that's what.

If a little over half is the best of an inflated number they can come up with. You should already know that it's was damn well more than likely to be a positive number. Seeing as he's been polling much better with independents in the last few months.

I'm really just done with all of this blustering.
 
VanCleef said:
Poll: 6-In-10 Disapprove Of Trump's Declaration Of A National Emergency

Poll: 6-In-10 Disapprove Of Trump National Emergency Declaration : NPR
NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist Poll Results: Declaration of a National Emergency | Home of the Marist Poll



As expected, such a foolish act of declaring a fake emergency would not be met well by the American public.
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yep no shock here. People that understand reality and facts understand that if this is an emergency the wall doesnt fix it LMAO
 
Mycroft said:
No poll should use "random sampling". That creates inaccurate polls. And they don't use random sampling. They sample to get the result they want.
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That's funny and completely, absolutely, 180 degrees wrong. But I am curious how you (mistakenly) think one should construct a valid poll or any other representative sample without a (hopefully) random sample at the core of it?

Also, how do you know "they" sample to get the result they want? And if that's the goal why "they" would bother sampling anyone? If you don't want a random sample, easier and cheaper to just make up the responses and don't call or otherwise contact anyone.
 
joko104 said:
It doesn't matter politically what people think. It only matters what voters who vote think.

Remember, at one point Trump was less than 2% in polls and no poll ever showed a majority of people supporting him. If 40% of EVERYONE supports him he's got it in the bag!
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And he didn't get a majority of the vote, proving the polls wrong I guess, or something.....:doh
 
He sounded like someone who needs to be on medication when he announced this, of course we disapprove
 
JasperL said:
That's funny and completely, absolutely, 180 degrees wrong. But I am curious how you (mistakenly) think one should construct a valid poll or any other representative sample without a (hopefully) random sample at the core of it?

Also, how do you know "they" sample to get the result they want? And if that's the goal why "they" would bother sampling anyone? If you don't want a random sample, easier and cheaper to just make up the responses and don't call or otherwise contact anyone.
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Bias problems

Sampling bias is a possible source of sampling errors, wherein the sample is chosen in a way that makes some individuals less likely to be included in the sample than others. It leads to sampling errors which either have a prevalence to be positive or negative. Such errors can be considered to be systematic errors.

Sampling error - Wikipedia
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Since these pollsters presumably do this stuff for a living, one would assume they are aware of sampling issues. Given this, it is obvious that they deliberately allowed sampling errors to invalidate their poll.
 
JasperL said:
He's owning the libs and that's all that matters in this era for the remaining Republicans. If/when Pres. Bernie tries it, they'll call it an impeachable power grab, because IOKIYAR and owning the libs, but not OK otherwise. Etc..

What I can't believe is McConnell is going along with Trump undermining the power of the Senate and the Congress as a whole. If Trump wins in court it's going to set a really bad precedent.
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I think McConnell wants the wall, but doesn't have the guts to stand up for it. He'd rather Trump go the emergency route, this way he has no responsibility.
 
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