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Alabama mother begs to return to US, says moving to Syria and marrying ISIS fighters ...

In my opinion she has committed treason. She left the country to marry, several times, members of the ISIS terrorist group. She encouraged ISIS to kill Americans. I don't care if she can't return and if she does she needs to go to jail for a good long time.
 
Re: ISIS wife from Alabama will not be admitted to the US, Pompeo says

If your argument were true and it’s not...
My arguments are true and factual. And you have not been able to show they are not, but you do keep showing you know not of what you speak.


...then you nor your parents or grandparents are citizens....
Wrong. You clearly not not understand what was said and argued.


....because after all if our ancestors were not born here we aren’t citizens of this country but that of our ancestors....
And thus again establishing you know not of what you speak.


....too bad for you mine never migrated here from Europe....they were acquired during Texas statehood
You are not the topic of discussion, are you? And your comment of "too bad for you"? How is that bad for me? Or are you again just spewing irrelevant nonsense?








All that I can say to someone who appears to believe that "allegiance" and "jurisdiction" mean the same thing and who thinks that the laws of the United States of America pertaining to "natural born citizenship" refer to "allegiance" and who appears to believe that administrative decisions have the force of law REGARDLESS of what those decisions are is "Have a nice millennium.".
You are again replying with nonsense to what was said and argued and show you have no clue as to what you speak, especially given your proclaimed assumptions have no validity.

The framers of the 14th told us what the terminology they used in the 14th means. You have yet to make a valid, let alone legal argument against what they say, and that is because you can not.

And no one was talking about nbc as apparently you want to deflect to, but given previous discussions where you constantly show you have no clue as to what you speak and purposely lie while doing so, you are unlikely to have a clue.
 
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That statement in itself is utter racist nonsense. I am going to assume that you never spent any time in the south during the segregation era, and very little afterwards. You clearly do not know what you are talking about.

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a white person in Alabama isn't going to experience the racism that someone who is non white experiences...that isn't racist nonsense...it is a damn fact. I actually grew up in the South. Texas to be specific. During my time as a child I was called all sorts of trash nonsense, like half breed, bastard child, told to go back to Mexico...even though I am not from Mexico, even told by folks who knew my background that I belonged on the reservation and not with civilized white people, demanded of my passport at a job application and when I produced it told that isn't proof of my citizenship and that it must be fake...so don't try to tell me I don't know what I am talking about...and all of that was experienced after segregation.

Alabama Students Caught On Video Being Racist

yep, you have come such a long way...keep living in your blind fantasy world.
 
In my opinion she has committed treason. She left the country to marry, several times, members of the ISIS terrorist group. She encouraged ISIS to kill Americans. I don't care if she can't return and if she does she needs to go to jail for a good long time.

to be charged and tried for treason you have to be tried in a US court.
 
In my opinion she has committed treason. She left the country to marry, several times, members of the ISIS terrorist group. She encouraged ISIS to kill Americans. I don't care if she can't return and if she does she needs to go to jail for a good long time.

I'd buy "akin to treason", but not simply "treason" because, for 18 USC §2381. TREASON to be applicable there a war involved and, technically there is no "war" involved nor has there been any declaration that ISISISISILDAESHWHATEVER is an "enemy of the United States of America".

You might find the brief article HERE interesting.
 
"I want a strong confident man who knows when to discipline me and keep me in check"

"Please help me"

Just go for the nice guys ladies.
 
I'd buy "akin to treason", but not simply "treason" because, for 18 USC §2381. TREASON to be applicable there a war involved and, technically there is no "war" involved nor has there been any declaration that ISISISISILDAESHWHATEVER is an "enemy of the United States of America".

You might find the brief article HERE interesting.

Read the statute you linked to. There is no requirement of a "war"
 
to be charged and tried for treason you have to be tried in a US court.
Now you are all over the map. I doubt you are even telling the truth about Texas.

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You're confusing "tried" with "succeeded".

Many Conservative Alabamans tried to elect a child molester. They did not succeed.



Heck, you support one of the people who tried to get the child molester elected.

'Go get 'em, Roy': Trump backs accused child molester Moore for Senate


But hey, I think it's kind of obvious why Trump would support such behavior.

ivanka-trump-young-photos.jpg


[video]Trump: If Ivanka weren't my daughter, I'd be dating her [/video]

Dang, and you people actually support this guy eh?


Sad to think that some people see their own children as repulsive - and then expect Trump and everyone else to feel that negatively about their own children.

Anyone who ends up married to one of my children will be among the luckiest people to ever live.
 
You obviously cant comprehend what you read. Explains many of your views.

You do know the difference between "must meet one of two conditions" and "must meet both of two conditions", don't you?

You do know that is something meets NEITHER of two conditions then the fact that it does not meet ONE of the conditions becomes irrelevant. don't you?
 
You do know the difference between "must meet one of two conditions" and "must meet both of two conditions", don't you?

You do know that is something meets NEITHER of two conditions then the fact that it does not meet ONE of the conditions becomes irrelevant. don't you?

Placing quotes around your statements wont make them magically appear in the statute and I suggest you learn the meaning of the word "or" which does appear in the statute. A hint "or" doesnt mean "and"
 
Now you are all over the map. I doubt you are even telling the truth about Texas.

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What is it that I said about Texas? That I was born there? In Brownsville? Yes, I was born there and subsequently have lived in Amarillo, Dallas and Houston. I am a native Texan, unlike you.
 
Placing quotes around your statements wont make them magically appear in the statute and I suggest you learn the meaning of the word "or" which does appear in the statute. A hint "or" doesnt mean "and"

Except he is right

enemies are defined very precisely under American treason law. An enemy is a nation or an organization with which the United States is in a declared or open war .


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...cee7ce475fc_story.html?utm_term=.70a09cc1ec19
 
Placing quotes around your statements wont make them magically appear in the statute and I suggest you learn the meaning of the word "or" which does appear in the statute. A hint "or" doesnt mean "and"

In context, the word "or" means "must meet one of two conditions". If NEITHER condition is met then the requirement that the situation "must meet one of two conditions" has NOT been met.

In this situation, there is no "war", nor has there been any declaration that anyone is "an enemy of the United States of America".

Thus NEITHER of the two conditions that determine whether an act is (potentially) "Treason" or not has been met.
 
What is it that I said about Texas? That I was born there? In Brownsville? Yes, I was born there and subsequently have lived in Amarillo, Dallas and Houston. I am a native Texan, unlike you.

Sorry, but considering what you wrote about Alabama and then failed to back up, I cannot take you seriously in regards to Texas either. We were talking about Alabama and when I called you on your nonsense claims about it, you immediately abandoned Alabama and jumped to Texas. I have never claimed to be a native Texas, however your claims about systemic racism in Texas are as untruthful as your claims in regards to Alabama. I am 500 miles from Houston , have traveled through Texas many times and just do not buy your claims.
 
Sorry, but considering what you wrote about Alabama and then failed to back up, I cannot take you seriously in regards to Texas either. We were talking about Alabama and when I called you on your nonsense claims about it, you immediately abandoned Alabama and jumped to Texas. I have never claimed to be a native Texas, however your claims about systemic racism in Texas are as untruthful as your claims in regards to Alabama. I am 500 miles from Houston , have traveled through Texas many times and just do not buy your claims.

TEXAS SUCKS...Best to Fly over it
 
Except he is right

enemies are defined very precisely under American treason law. An enemy is a nation or an organization with which the United States is in a declared or open war .


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...cee7ce475fc_story.html?utm_term=.70a09cc1ec19
iLOL :lamo
Someone who has constantly shown that they know not of what they speak, saying someone else who also knows not of what they speak is "right", while again showing that they do not understand what they are talking about, is absolutely hilarious.

The definitive statement you posted (as if it is your own) came from the authors opinion piece. And he is absolutely correct, as that is an enemy. What you failed to understand is two fold likely because you also failed to read his source material, 1. "Open war" does not mean declared war, and 2. that is not the only definition of an "enemy".

War does not have to be declared on the other party for them to be enemies.
From the authors source material.

Chap. II. Of Levying War and Adhering to the King's Enemies.
[...]

Sect. 12. States in Actual Hostility with Us, though no War be solemnly Declared, are Enemies within the meaning of the Act. And therefore in an Indictment on the Clause of Adhering to the King's Enemies, it is sufficient to Aver that the Prince or State Adhered to is an Enemy, without shewing any War Proclaimed. And the Fact, whether War or No, is triable by the Jury; and Publick Notoriety is sufficient Evidence of the Fact. And if the Subject of a Foreign Prince in Amity with Us, invadeth the Kingdom without Commission from his Sovereign, He is an Enemy. And a Subject of England adhering to Him is a Traitor within this Clause of the Act​
.​


If you bother to look, the above definition is even reflected in some current US laws and applicable to individuals, not just states.
It is unlikely that any court would find otherwise.




That's ONE of TWO conditions and neither of them have been met.
You obviously cant comprehend what you read. Explains many of your views.
You do know the difference between "must meet one of two conditions" and "must meet both of two conditions", don't you?

You do know that is something meets NEITHER of two conditions then the fact that it does not meet ONE of the conditions becomes irrelevant. don't you?
Placing quotes around your statements wont make them magically appear in the statute and I suggest you learn the meaning of the word "or" which does appear in the statute. A hint "or" doesnt mean "and"
:applaud​


In context, the word "or" means "must meet one of two conditions". If NEITHER condition is met then the requirement that the situation "must meet one of two conditions" has NOT been met.

In this situation, there is no "war", nor has there been any declaration that anyone is "an enemy of the United States of America".

Thus NEITHER of the two conditions that determine whether an act is (potentially) "Treason" or not has been met.
Such dishonesty.
No mater what you say now, your original statement implied there are two conditions that must be met for the charge to be applicable when it is only one.

Furthermore, the Constitutional requirement, nor the statute state that the US has to be in a declared war or the people be declared an enemy.
The requirement is that they be Waring against the US or an enemy.
 
Except he is right

enemies are defined very precisely under American treason law. An enemy is a nation or an organization with which the United States is in a declared or open war .


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...cee7ce475fc_story.html?utm_term=.70a09cc1ec19

Your not citing the law you are citing the Washington post. The other poster cited the applicable law. And under the Washington Posts view, Syria, Iraq, AfghanistanVietnam and North Korea were never enemies and the US hasnt had any enemies since WW2 AND the left needs to stop whining about Trump committing treason in his relationship with Russia
 
No mater what you say now, your original statement implied there are two conditions that must be met for the charge to be applicable when it is only one.

I take no responsibility for other people's inability to comprehend the English language.

Furthermore, the Constitutional requirement, nor the statute state that the US has to be in a declared war or the people be declared an enemy.
The requirement is that they be Waring against the US or an enemy.

Quite right there is absolutely no requirement that there be a declared war or that the people be declared an enemy, all that is required is that there be a war or that the people be enemies.

It is a known fact throughout the legal profession, that there is absolutely no requirement for anyone to know what the law is and for the government to have secret definitions for what the laws are is perfectly acceptable.

I foresee a brilliant financial future in the legal field for you - of course the people who are going to be enjoying the fruits of that financial future will be the lawyers who are NOT acting for your clients.
 
I take no responsibility for other people's inability to comprehend the English language.



Quite right there is absolutely no requirement that there be a declared war or that the people be declared an enemy, all that is required is that there be a war or that the people be enemies.

It is a known fact throughout the legal profession, that there is absolutely no requirement for anyone to know what the law is and for the government to have secret definitions for what the laws are is perfectly acceptable.

I foresee a brilliant financial future in the legal field for you - of course the people who are going to be enjoying the fruits of that financial future will be the lawyers who are NOT acting for your clients.
As usual you deflect with nonsense because you can not refute what was said.

Push on with your absurdity.

War does not have to be declared on the other party for them to be enemies.
From the authors source material.

Chap. II. Of Levying War and Adhering to the King's Enemies.
[...]

Sect. 12. States in Actual Hostility with Us, though no War be solemnly Declared, are Enemies within the meaning of the Act. And therefore in an Indictment on the Clause of Adhering to the King's Enemies, it is sufficient to Aver that the Prince or State Adhered to is an Enemy, without shewing any War Proclaimed. And the Fact, whether War or No, is triable by the Jury; and Publick Notoriety is sufficient Evidence of the Fact. And if the Subject of a Foreign Prince in Amity with Us, invadeth the Kingdom without Commission from his Sovereign, He is an Enemy. And a Subject of England adhering to Him is a Traitor within this Clause of the Act​
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If you bother to look, the above definition is even reflected in some current US laws and applicable to individuals, not just states.
It is unlikely that any court would find otherwise.
 
Sorry, but considering what you wrote about Alabama and then failed to back up, I cannot take you seriously in regards to Texas either. We were talking about Alabama and when I called you on your nonsense claims about it, you immediately abandoned Alabama and jumped to Texas. I have never claimed to be a native Texas, however your claims about systemic racism in Texas are as untruthful as your claims in regards to Alabama. I am 500 miles from Houston , have traveled through Texas many times and just do not buy your claims.

I know this wasn't directed at me, but Texas supported Trump, a blatant racist. This is the guy who got elected largely on the back of having led the racist Birther Movement.

Of course Texas has a good deal of systemic racism. If they didn't, they would never have elected Trump.

Even the leader of his own party agrees:

Ryan: Trump's comments 'textbook definition' of racism
 
Sorry, but considering what you wrote about Alabama and then failed to back up, I cannot take you seriously in regards to Texas either. We were talking about Alabama and when I called you on your nonsense claims about it, you immediately abandoned Alabama and jumped to Texas. I have never claimed to be a native Texas, however your claims about systemic racism in Texas are as untruthful as your claims in regards to Alabama. I am 500 miles from Houston , have traveled through Texas many times and just do not buy your claims.

I didn't fail to back it up, you failed to READ what I posted when you asked for it....
500 miles from Houston? LMAO...I was raised in Texas my dear.....regardless of what you buy or don't buy...In fact, I went to Pleasant Valley Elementary School on River Road....if you can figure out where that is...I also spent many a weekend with friends exploring the Palo Duro Canyon and later as an adult spent more than my share of time at Galveston and fishing in Texas City. I do not have to prove myself to you...it is noted that you somehow think that someone who is not white could not possibly be a Texan by birth.
 
iLOL :lamo
Someone who has constantly shown that they know not of what they speak, saying someone else who also knows not of what they speak is "right", while again showing that they do not understand what they are talking about, is absolutely hilarious.

The definitive statement you posted (as if it is your own) came from the authors opinion piece. And he is absolutely correct, as that is an enemy. What you failed to understand is two fold likely because you also failed to read his source material, 1. "Open war" does not mean declared war, and 2. that is not the only definition of an "enemy".

War does not have to be declared on the other party for them to be enemies.
From the authors source material.

Chap. II. Of Levying War and Adhering to the King's Enemies.
[...]

Sect. 12. States in Actual Hostility with Us, though no War be solemnly Declared, are Enemies within the meaning of the Act. And therefore in an Indictment on the Clause of Adhering to the King's Enemies, it is sufficient to Aver that the Prince or State Adhered to is an Enemy, without shewing any War Proclaimed. And the Fact, whether War or No, is triable by the Jury; and Publick Notoriety is sufficient Evidence of the Fact. And if the Subject of a Foreign Prince in Amity with Us, invadeth the Kingdom without Commission from his Sovereign, He is an Enemy. And a Subject of England adhering to Him is a Traitor within this Clause of the Act​
.​


If you bother to look, the above definition is even reflected in some current US laws and applicable to individuals, not just states.
It is unlikely that any court would find otherwise.





:applaud​



Such dishonesty.
No mater what you say now, your original statement implied there are two conditions that must be met for the charge to be applicable when it is only one.

Furthermore, the Constitutional requirement, nor the statute state that the US has to be in a declared war or the people be declared an enemy.
The requirement is that they be Waring against the US or an enemy.
Your constant repetition that someone is wrong doesn't suddenly make you right....it makes you nothing more than a hard head that cannot accept facts.
 
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