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Mueller prosecutors recommend 19-24 years in Manafort case

Atomic Kid said:
Wouldn't be surprised if Trump ends up getting nailed for tax evasion as well.
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I would suggest that Trump been such a public figure for decades, I would think with his holdings he would have been audited several times if not more. And I would suggest that all his deals would require a bank of lawyers on both sides of a transaction to insure all the "T" are crossed.
 
Captain America said:
I was watching a documentary on Roger Stone that, I think, was filmed before him and Manafort were in orange jumpsuits.

I didn't realize how far back the two go. The political dirty tricks they orchestrated and all the money they made doing it.

They have a long history of being pieces of ****. Going all the way back to Nixon. They worked as being "political terrorists" in a manner of speaking.

And they did it right under everybody's noses.

Sleep with the dogs and you gonna catch the fleas. I'm thinking Melania needs to buy her boo a fuzzy flea collar.
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Yep, Stone and Manafort are the epitome of “swamp” creatures—influence peddlers of the worst kind. I guess no one thought the swamp would get a little draining from Mueller!
 
MauiMan said:
All we want is rule of law.
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BWHAAAA! NO YOU DON'T!.....You want anyone associated with the election of Trump as the 45th President of the United States of America to be jailed, and die there.....Including anyone who voted for him.
 
Atomic Kid said:
:lamo :lamo :lamo If this President was elected to office with the help of hostile foreign power and as a result is beholden to that hostile foreign power then this essentially makes him an agent of foreign power and his Presidency is an illegitimate one. Which by the way is a scenario that our founding fathers and drafters of the Constitution had envisioned as a very real possibility.
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If the Russians engaged in a disinformation campaign, as the intelligence agencies believe, what does that say about the voters who were influenced by the disinformation and voted for Trump as a result? How gullible are we as a people?
 
Casca XV said:
19-24 years for events that happened 10 years ago that he was investigated and cleared on then. But now they need to punish him and anyone else they can who supported Trump.
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Was it or was it not determined he committed criminal acts?

Those "events" were crimes. The statute of limitations had not lapsed. That he was obviously improperly investigated back then and cleared erroneously does not change the fact he was still guilty of criminal acts.

I do not understand this mindset by some that they wish crime to be ignored simply because it didn't happen yesterday?
 
MauiMan said:
If the Russians engaged in a disinformation campaign, as the intelligence agencies believe, what does that say about the voters who were influenced by the disinformation and voted for Trump as a result? How gullible are we as a people?
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"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it." - Men in Black
 
j-mac said:
BWHAAAA! NO YOU DON'T!.....You want anyone associated with the election of Trump as the 45th President of the United States of America to be jailed, and die there.....Including anyone who voted for him.
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Untrue. I want people who break the law to be held accountable. I would like to see Hillary investigated, for example. During the campaign, Trump said he would do that, if elected. And yet...nothing.
 
MauiMan said:
Untrue. I want people who break the law to be held accountable. I would like to see Hillary investigated, for example. During the campaign, Trump said he would do that, if elected. And yet...nothing.
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Would you like to see Trump jailed?
 
Born Free said:
I would suggest that Trump been such a public figure for decades, I would think with his holdings he would have been audited several times if not more. And I would suggest that all his deals would require a bank of lawyers on both sides of a transaction to insure all the "T" are crossed.
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Well then if we were to apply your line of reasoning then Trump shouldn't have any problems with his tax returns being made public as every other President has done since Nixon. Seeing as though he wouldn't have anything to hide after having his taxes reviewed by as you say; a 'bank of tax lawyers', right?
 
MauiMan said:
If the Russians engaged in a disinformation campaign, as the intelligence agencies believe, what does that say about the voters who were influenced by the disinformation and voted for Trump as a result? How gullible are we as a people?
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All you have to do is to look at what gets posted here to see that gullibility in the general electorate can be a problem at times. Which is another thing that worried the founding fathers.
 
JANFU said:
Never stated that. Read my post again. Take your time
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Im asking you. Thats what the question mark at the end of sentences mean. What is it you expect Stone to flip on?
 
j-mac said:
Would you like to see Trump jailed?
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No—that would be a disaster. What has he been charged with? Nothing. If he has done something criminal, the best thing would be for him to be removed from office and pardoned by Pence—similar to what happened with Nixon.
 
LouC said:
Was it or was it not determined he committed criminal acts?

Those "events" were crimes. The statute of limitations had not lapsed. That he was obviously improperly investigated back then and cleared erroneously does not change the fact he was still guilty of criminal acts.

I do not understand this mindset by some that they wish crime to be ignored simply because it didn't happen yesterday?
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And he was partnered with the Podestias during those criminal acts. Notice who is not being criminally charged.
 
Casca XV said:
Or has Harvey Silverglate explained in his Book "Three Felonies a Day": There is not a single person in the US that a Federal Investigator could not find a crime on.
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I'm sure that's a best seller in Cell Block 4.
 
Casca XV said:
Yep, and a sad fact that Totalitarian Leftist rely on to punish their political opposition.
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I bet it transcends politics. A book that really brings the gangs together.
 
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