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Ocasio-Cortez, Joaquin Castro Plan Bill to Block Trump's Emergency Declaration

MateoMtnClimber said:
Of course members of Congress have standing. Not only is every American harmed by this action (yes, even you), but the executive literally usurped the constitutional authority of the legislature to make appropriations. If you think they can't sue, I invite you to sit tight for a couple days.
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No american is harmed by having a more secure border.
actually it is fully constitutional for the president to declare a national emergency.

Trump has the stats to support it as well.

No they can file a law suit but any judge worth his salt would throw it out as lack of standing.
they would have to show hurt or injury by a more secure border and they can't.
 
ludin said:
No american is harmed by having a more secure border.
actually it is fully constitutional for the president to declare a national emergency.

Trump has the stats to support it as well.

No they can file a law suit but any judge worth his salt would throw it out as lack of standing.
they would have to show hurt or injury by a more secure border and they can't.
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Declaring a Bull**** National Emergency without Congressional Support , is not constitutional...the courts will shut this power grab down
DOJ warns White House that national emergency will likely be blocked: report
 
Saladin4 said:
Then why do so many "undocumented workers" get hired?...You angry whites sure can dish it out but crumble when challenged
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Undocumented workers sometimes get hired just because they are available. A great many, however, get hired because they will work for substandard pay and no benefits and the businesses that hire them are undercutting a living wage and opportunity for law abiding legal businesses.

And your post continues to be prejudicial and racist.
 
Mongidig said:
These families came here knowing the risks and knowing they were braking the law. The blame goes to the parents of these children.

Trump is the first President to have the guts to take action on an emergency that has been going on for years created by....the left!
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"Created by the left" :lamo

Jesus Christ look how far down the propaganda rabbit hole these people go. That's right folks, liberals invented illegal immigration.
 
MateoMtnClimber said:
Oh, this will be fun. Let's go. Education, as you used that term, typically refers to the formal education that a person receives and completes. You know, like schools? But let's pretend that you didn't mean what you said. What "education" is the congressperson lacking?

Now back to her degree, which you claim you didn't reference. A bachelor's degree is not sufficient enough education (there's that word again) to be an economics expert. I wouldn't trust her with a ten dollar bill. Nevertheless, she is at least as or more educated than most of her congressional colleagues. So are you really talking about her knowledge depth or her politics?
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I don't want to have "fun," Mateo. You brought up Ocasio-Cortez's Bachelor's, and just FYI, education is more than a sheepskin/piece of paper. If you are unable to appreciate what I did say--to somebody else--and need to interpret and narrow "education" down to a degree, then just spin somebody's else's post.
 
AlbqOwl said:
Undocumented workers sometimes get hired just because they are available. A great many, however, get hired because they will work for substandard pay and no benefits and the businesses that hire them are undercutting a living wage and opportunity for law abiding legal businesses.

And your post continues to be prejudicial and racist.
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Yeah great to see trump go after the businesses...Oh wait he hasn't...Your kind blames the workers, with your fear mongering and racism...Your kind will be defeated
 
nota bene said:
I don't want to have "fun," Mateo. You brought up Ocasio-Cortez's Bachelor's, and just FYI, education is more than a sheepskin/piece of paper. If you are unable to appreciate what I did say--to somebody else--and need to interpret and narrow "education" down to a degree, then just spin somebody's else's post.
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whatever she got a bachelors in it wasn't on economics or any other business or profession.
she would have flunked out of the class.
 
ludin said:
whatever she got a bachelors in it wasn't on economics or any other business or profession.
she would have flunked out of the class.
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As compared to your hero trump's "outstanding academic" career...Yeah sure
 
Saladin4 said:
Great to see here stand against trump and his goons...She represents the future of Blue State America!
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I always get **** from both the right and left because I do not do "tribal" rhetoric.

It's tough being a true centrist, be independent .
 
noonereal said:
I always get **** from both the right and left because I do not do "tribal" rhetoric.

It's tough being a true centrist, be independent .
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na your pretty cool i like your posts for the most part :)
 
AlbqOwl said:
I resent the implications that no Americans or white people get hired and work hard or demonize anybody. Your statement is prejudicial and racist.
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You resent a thing he didn't say? Try reading comprehension.
 
noonereal said:
I always get **** from both the right and left because I do not do "tribal" rhetoric.

It's tough being a true centrist, be independent .
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It can be...You run the risk of mediocrity , unable to make a decision...Stuck in the middle of the road, as the world goes by.....
 
Saladin4 said:
It can be...You run the risk of mediocrity , unable to make a decision...Stuck in the middle of the road, as the world goes by.....
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Yes it can however I do make decisions. I know Cortez is screwing up right now. I know Trump is a danger.

You don't need to be stuck anywhere to be balanced. It can just mean that you will not be the pawn of a side.
 
AlbqOwl said:
I resent the implications that no Americans or white people get hired and work hard or demonize anybody. Your statement is prejudicial and racist.
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There's no reasonable doubt that illegal immigrants are the best workers because Trump only hires The Best People and Trump hires illegal immigrants
 
Bucky said:
Castro and Cortez... this sounds like a headline you would see in South America.
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And that is why Trumpets are so loyal to evil. Change causes fear in all of us.
 
nota bene said:
I don't want to have "fun," Mateo. You brought up Ocasio-Cortez's Bachelor's, and just FYI, education is more than a sheepskin/piece of paper. If you are unable to appreciate what I did say--to somebody else--and need to interpret and narrow "education" down to a degree, then just spin somebody's else's post.
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If education, as you used it in your post, means something more than her schooling, then what more is it?

After all, in your post you spoke of her education and experience, clearly distinguishing between the two
 
noonereal said:
Why?

WTF am I missing?

You think she's been wise and measured?
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I don't know much about her at all. She's a minor member of the Democratic party who is young and playing hard ball. I'm not prepared to call her a jerk.
 
noonereal said:
Yes it can however I do make decisions. I know Cortez is screwing up right now. I know Trump is a danger.

You don't need to be stuck anywhere to be balanced. It can just mean that you will not be the pawn of a side.
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Fair enough....I can respect that
 
AlbqOwl said:
A lot of us consider theft, burglary, rape, murder, assault/battery, manslaughter, and unnecessary depletion of resources to be harmful. And a small but significant percentage of those coming in illegally have committed and will commit serious crime--some are committing serious crime by trafficking children or unwilling women when they come across--and all are likely to have a negative economic impact in utilizing American healthcare, education, and other social services.

And when you are talking of thousands, tens of thousands, millions of illegal migrants, the harm can be measurable and signficant.
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What person doesn't consider theft, burglary, rape, murder, assault/battery, and manslaughter harmful? Whatever you mean be unnecessary depletion of resources doesn't interest me since we live in the most wasteful society that the earth has ever known and pretend that we have scarce resources when someone else looks at them.

I understand that you have been trained to think that these people pose some sort of existential, fiscal, or other threat to you, but I live in a sanctuary city in a state that is largely inhabited by legal and illegal immigrants. Under no circumstance do I condone illegal immigration, but it's not a threat. Not to you and not to me. So let's clean up our immigration policies, secure our many borders (not just the one where the brown people come through), and quit wrecking people's lives by shutting down the US's federal government and declaring national emergencies that don't exist. Can we please act like adults again?
 
ludin said:
*sigh*

There is nothing unconstitutional about the president declaring a national emergency.
For someone that is a supposed lawyer you should already know this.
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Oh, ludin, with all due respect, you are literally the most ignorant person related to the law that I have ever met in this forum. You are so wrong that I'm going to take a screen shot of this and rub it in your face soon.
 
Saladin4 said:
Yeah great to see trump go after the businesses...Oh wait he hasn't...Your kind blames the workers, with your fear mongering and racism...Your kind will be defeated
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Your posts are hate filled, irrational, and racist.
 
ludin said:
No american is harmed by having a more secure border.
actually it is fully constitutional for the president to declare a national emergency.

Trump has the stats to support it as well.

No they can file a law suit but any judge worth his salt would throw it out as lack of standing.
they would have to show hurt or injury by a more secure border and they can't.
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I'm not talking about the border, which has never and will never be a threat to you. I'm talking about the president trying to circumvent the Constitution. Can I please buy you one semester in law school? A voter shouldn't be so uneducated.
 
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