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NYT: Manafort Found to Have Lied to Prosecutors While Under a Cooperation Agreement

Cardinal said:
It's curious that, off the top of your head, you can't think of a single instance of a Trump associate being honest with regards to Russia. Of all the documented and public comments that Trump associates have made, they've all been false. That's what we in the business call "a warning sign."

What is an innocent explanation for why literally all of the public, documented statements by Trump associates have been false?
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Here’s one: Trump is stupid and they manipulated him with abandon.
 
haymarket said:
This site is devoted to DEBATE. It is not devoted to Pompous Personal Pontifications.

Thank you for showing that you are woefully impotent to back up your statements with any evidence.
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Thank you! Let’s move on.
 
Atomic Kid said:
And we now know that you have been filling up your head with a bunch of conspiracy/deep state hallucinatory nonsense.
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I cannot help those who refuse to do honest research in order to either be informed of the facts or to successfully prove the positions wrong which they claim are wrong.
 
tres borrachos said:
I think that poster believes we are as stupid as Trump supporters are, and so he posts lies hoping we will believe them, as he believes Trump's lies.

Jim Jones never had it this easy.
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Yep. It’s called disinformation. Fodder for gullible people.
 
Praxas said:
Actually the only thing of "truth" in your entire tirade is that the DNC was definitely found to have a bias towards Hilary which has cost them dearly. Your only other lying comments have proven yourself to be in league with the Devil as I have proven in other posts. You are the Devils 4 star general.
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You claim what I said is not accurate and yet you offer no convincing facts to support that claim.
 
MauiMan said:
Here’s one: Trump is stupid and they manipulated him with abandon.
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Naaah. I don't think so. I mean you know Trump is stupid. But, nobody could this stupid to not know what was actually going on here. There's likely a very good reason why Trump never has any other Americans with him to memorialize what is being said in his 'private' meetings with Putin.
 
marke said:
You claim what I said is not accurate and yet you offer no convincing facts to support that claim.
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You believe in the Devil and worship him. Deceit is his way and you follow him. You're dismissed devil worshiper since you provided no facts to support your claim.
 
Praxas said:
You believe in the Devil and worship him. Deceit is his way and you follow him. You're dismissed devil worshiper since you provided no facts to support your claim.
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I ask for proof and that is what you come up with?
 
haymarket said:
I would strongly advise you to familiarize yourself with the basics of DEBATE. Everybody has an opinion. Fine. And that is what you start with. That takes mere seconds. DEBATE is the process of being able to support and defend that opinion against others and it involves the use of verifiable evidence to support any claims fact that you have made and are challenged by others.
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Thank you! He’s not listening. He’s intransigent, and just wants to vent and annoy people. He’s enjoying it. Ignor him.
 
marke said:
I cannot help those who refuse to do honest research in order to either be informed of the facts or to successfully prove the positions wrong which they claim are wrong.
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I wouldn't call wading through the garbage of sources promoting Alex Jones conspiracy nut like theories as being fact, "honest research".
 
marke said:
We know Hillary and the DNC stacked the deck against Bernie. We know Hillary hired Trump-hating intelligence agents to create a lying fake spy document filled with fabricated tales backed by Russians in order to influence the election in her favor. We know Russians paid her and her husband huge cash sums for doing practically nothing worthy of note before the election. We know Russia benefited from the purchase of US uranium assets engineered by Hillary and other key democrat insiders and that Hillary's private charity had received prior to that a single donation inn excess of a $100 million donation from one of the guys who was heavily involved in the uranium mining which led up to the approved sale.

It is unclear whether Mueller looked into any of this while looking for evidence of Russian involvement in American politics.
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If true, why does the president do nothing? Where is the rule of law that he promised? Where is the special investigation of Hillary that he promised? What happened to the chants of “lock her up”? Absolutely nothing. Silence.
 
Praxas said:
Actually the only thing of "truth" in your entire tirade is that the DNC was definitely found to have a bias towards Hilary which has cost them dearly. Your only other lying comments have proven yourself to be in league with the Devil as I have proven in other posts. You are the Devils 4 star general.
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??? Yes, da Debil !!!
 
justabubba said:
excellent
then you do acknowledge the collusion by and between the tRump campaign and wiki leaks via stone
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Nope.
You forget the theory: Trump & Co. conspired with Russia to fix the 2016 election.

Mueller is saying that somebody asked Stone to find out what Wikileaks had.
 
Atomic Kid said:
I wouldn't call wading through the garbage of sources promoting Alex Jones conspiracy nut like theories as being fact, "honest research".
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Definition of "conspiracy nut theory": Hillary's lying claim that Trump colluded with the Russians to steal her dirty laundry emails and give them to Assange, and that Seth Rich had nothing to do with it.
 
MauiMan said:
If true, why does the president do nothing? Where is the rule of law that he promised? Where is the special investigation of Hillary that he promised? What happened to the chants of “lock her up”? Absolutely nothing. Silence.
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Makes you wonder, doesn't it? Good men are jailed and the crooks go free. That has been happening for thousands of years.
 
MTAtech said:
We know part of it. "Russia, if you're listening, find the 30,000 Hillary emails." The next day they/she was hacked as Stone said.
MauiMan said:
Coincidental. Trump could have been their stooge.
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Great defense: "I didn't actually conspire with Russia -- I was just their stooge." So, you think a guy who was Russia's stooge should still be president. Wonderful.
 
marke said:
Makes you wonder, doesn't it? Good men are jailed and the crooks go free. That has been happening for thousands of years.
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Yes, it is troubling. I am comforted by the words of the Savior:

“I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world.” John‬ *16:33‬ *NIV‬‬
 
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