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‘My whole town practically lived there’: From Costa Rica to New Jersey, a pipeline of illegal worker

NeverTrump said:
For the paywall challenged and the reading challenged: Trump paid them $8/hour to operate heavy equipment. No benefits. A licensed, legal operator would have cost him $51/hour, including benefits. Trump has employed a whole town full of illegal immigrants in the state of NJ.



‘My whole town practically lived there’: From Costa Rica to New Jersey, a pipeline of illegal workers for Trump goes back years
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My god you are so ignorant.

The average annual gross for a heavy equipment operator in Jersey falls in the 39-50 K range.

$51.00 an hour puts them over 100K a year with your BS!

There is no licensing required to operate a dozer or excavator. Only over the road CDL drivers that haul heavy equipment are required to be licensed.
 
HumblePi said:
A perfect example of how Trump could care less about illegals. He only demonizes them to fire up his base, that's all. That's what a populist does. He could care less about any illegals, they only help in his money-grabbing business life. They are not a detriment to him personally at all and in fact they're a genuine money-saving option for him.
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As business owner, Trump cares about illegals and hires them. As president, Trump doesn't care about the hiring of illegals because their clandestine entry into America is bad for the American economy and because their hiring by companies takes away jobs from Americans.

Trump is really angry with unions, IMO. Unions disrupt capitalism. A non-union American laborer could be snatching up all the work from companies instead of the high-priced American unionized labor which sits idle.
 
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tres borrachos said:
I'll bet you would post exactly this if you found out that Nancy Pelosi had an illegal working at her house.

It's Trump's property. The buck stops with him. Or did we stop using that phrase when he was elected.
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He corrected it.
 
upsideguy said:
let me repeat.....He was responsible for the business culture that allowed that to happen.... much as he is responsible for the business culture that allowed a campaign to staff itself with felons and White House that staffed itself with corrupt individuals. The CEO defines the culture.

Moreover, he has a long history of hiring illegals. The current revelation has to be as much a surprise to Trump as the gambling in Rick's was a surprise to Captain Renault.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...r-is-anyone-surprised/?utm_term=.faf7af475dcc
Trump's history of hiring undocumented workers | National Politics | rapidcityjournal.com
Sen. Sanders: 'Hypocrite' Trump rants against undocumented immigrants, but hires them at his properties | TheHill
President Trump Hired Undocumented Immigrants for $4 An Hour for Demolition Project: Court Docs
The Many Scandals of Donald Trump: A Cheat Sheet - The Atlantic
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There was a 'culture' of hiring illegals way before Trump but, those decisions are not usually given from the top.
 
cabse5 said:
As business owner, Trump cares about illegals and hires them. As president, Trump doesn't care about the hiring of illegals because their clandestine entry into America is bad for the American economy and because their hiring by companies takes away jobs from Americans.

Trump is really angry with unions, IMO. Unions disrupt capitalism. A non-union American laborer could be snatching up all the work from companies instead of the high-priced American unionized labor which sits idle.
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He doesn't care about illegals at all. He only cares that his base cares.
 
cabse5 said:
You've missed out of the previous conversation I had with Rob. Here is is.



Since there have been lows in carbon emissions due to strigent CO2 emission policies in America, does that mean the EPA is disengenious spreading the fear of climate change just like Rob intimated Trump is disingenious in his spreading of illegal immigration fears when Trump said there were 45 year lows in illegal immigration?
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Rob didn't need to intimate. Rob quoted trump directly. While you made an irrelevant off-topic comparison.
 
RetiredUSN said:
My god you are so ignorant.

The average annual gross for a heavy equipment operator in Jersey falls in the 39-50 K range.

$51.00 an hour puts them over 100K a year with your BS!

There is no licensing required to operate a dozer or excavator. Only over the road CDL drivers that haul heavy equipment are required to be licensed.
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I don't know many construction sites that turn illegals loose on million dollar machines either. Most operators are Americans.
 
Logician Man said:
He most likely would not be if his gun could still shoot a live round.
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Another example of how liberals are so perverted in their thinking
 
Obscurity said:
Wrong. I am not convinced the wall will work. No argument made has been fallacy free that supports it. There is no evidence it is necessary or would work.
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The wall has worked everywhere its been built. This has been covered many times, you just do not wish to give Trump any political victory
 
NeverTrump said:
For the paywall challenged and the reading challenged: Trump paid them $8/hour to operate heavy equipment. No benefits. A licensed, legal operator would have cost him $51/hour, including benefits. Trump has employed a whole town full of illegal immigrants in the state of NJ.



‘My whole town practically lived there’: From Costa Rica to New Jersey, a pipeline of illegal workers for Trump goes back years
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So what exactly? Is he supposed to be PRO-illegal immigration now? Politically, he's not. it's commendable that he remained consistent to his politics, even while he took advantage of cheap labour.

If even trump knows it's wrong to bring in illegal immigrants, then you should know too. He's actually doing something about it. What are you doing? Letting the illegals flow in here?
 
Logician Man said:
" Grab em by the pu%%y " -Donald J. Trump- ( R)
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He didn’t say that, posting a statement out of context is basically lying.

But again it actually proves my point that the left hyperfocuses on that of everything he’s said. You’re not really countering what I said
 
EMNofSeattle said:
He didn’t say that, posting a statement out of context is basically lying.

But again it actually proves my point that the left hyperfocuses on that of everything he’s said. You’re not really countering what I said
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/// he didn't say that //// :2rofll:
 
EMNofSeattle said:
The wall has worked everywhere its been built. This has been covered many times, you just do not wish to give Trump any political victory
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No, he gets no victory because I do not want him in office.

However that is a separate issue.

How about a congressional study that shows the wall is necessary? You cons are so against any studies/investigations. I wonder why?
 
Obscurity said:
No, he gets no victory because I do not want him in office.

However that is a separate issue.

How about a congressional study that shows the wall is necessary? You cons are so against any studies/investigations. I wonder why?
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We are not against investigations.

The DHS has investigated the issue and seen massive cuts in illegal crossings where fences were built. A partisan democrat investigation is unnecessary
 
Logician Man said:
Tell us what Trump said in totality on that audio tape. ( clear up any misconceptions )
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You made a claim, you post the alleged statement in context and we will discuss. Saying someone said something and omitting context is a form of lying
 
EMNofSeattle said:
We are not against investigations.

The DHS has investigated the issue and seen massive cuts in illegal crossings where fences were built. A partisan democrat investigation is unnecessary
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And that data is skewed since immigration overall is down.

Now what?
 
Obscurity said:
And that data is skewed since immigration overall is down.

Now what?
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Ok so build more wall and if it doesn’t go down more we can remove it.


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EMNofSeattle said:
Ok so build more wall and if it doesn’t go down more we can remove it.


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No. I voted with my wallet, hence why the dems have the house. I don't want to spend on it first so your potus can have a victory if it's only going to be torn down.

Study first wall second.
 
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