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Republicans Ask Democrats To Please Leave Trump's Tax Returns ALONE

OpportunityCost said:
Because Fusion didn't share the meeting with her, probably because the entire meeting was easily discredited and would show the links between Fusion GPS and Russian lobbying when GPS was also working for the Clinton campaign.
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OpportunityCost said:
Because Fusion didn't share the meeting with her, probably because the entire meeting was easily discredited and would show the links between Fusion GPS and Russian lobbying when GPS was also working for the Clinton campaign.
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Your explanation makes zero sense. When top Trump (and not Clinton) officials meet with Russians in the Trump Tower meeting, such meetings cannot be easily discredited and blame Clinton for it. This is even more so when the time until the elections was just too short to have any in depth investigation to try to put Clinton into the picture. it was a year after the election and after the start of Congressional investigations that we learned that Clinton hired Fusion. Notice the date in the following article

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...3470754bbb9_story.html?utm_term=.bd90947b7f06


Rosalind S. Helderman
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The Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee helped fund research that resulted in a now-famous dossier containing allegations about President Trump's connections to Russia and possible coordination between his campaign and the Kremlin, people familiar with the matter said.

If you think that the Trump meeting was some type of a trap orchestrated by Fusion, then Trump jr fell for it and makes no sense not to have Clinton exploit this before the election!
 
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OpportunityCost said:
Yet, he still acted to limit Manafort's influence over the campaign, causing Manafort to resign. Guilt by association, how positively awful of you.
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Trump did nothing to correct the Republican platform at or from the convention that Manafort modified into a pro Russian document. Manafort turned the platform on its head and in Trump's name to make it pro Russian. Manafort and Trump are two sleazebags from way back. Each of 'em has a long history of lawless conduct and behavior that together constitute a pattern and practice of anarchy. Now you're griping at Democrats because you're stuck holding the bag for Trump and we're all over you for it.




OpportunityCost said:
Nah, first and foremost is Trump won the election and you and others like you cannot get over it, so you grasp at anything and everything to change that.
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The 2016 election produced a new mass phenomenon in American politics called the sore winner. You're still angry and carrying on. Bitter, that we over here didn't surrender in any way to your will. In other words you know you still have an opposition and a fight on your hands. A huge fight in fact. Hence the constant carping from over there. You musta expected a cakewalk eh.
 
OpportunityCost said:
Poor Vern, thinking any of his insane ramblings are something anyone cares about. A shame.
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Oh OC, "wah wah vern" and "nuh uh" are not debate. You understood the concept when you said this

OpportunityCost said:
Please address the topic...if you can. Hint: I am not the topic.
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Lets review. You started off with "wah wah Congress has no right". You found out that was false so you moved the goal posts to "wah wah probable cause". That too blew up in your face. quite massively I might add. Now you've been reduced to whining about me. so again, I knew you were lying when you said this.

OpportunityCost said:
If you EVER post a fact, be assured, I will respond to it.
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Tangmo said:
Trump did nothing to correct the Republican platform at or from the convention that Manafort modified into a pro Russian document. Manafort turned the platform on its head and in Trump's name to make it pro Russian. Manafort and Trump are two sleazebags from way back. Each of 'em has a long history of lawless conduct and behavior that together constitute a pattern and practice of anarchy. Now you're griping at Democrats because you're stuck holding the bag for Trump and we're all over you for it.






The 2016 election produced a new mass phenomenon in American politics called the sore winner. You're still angry and carrying on. Bitter, that we over here didn't surrender in any way to your will. In other words you know you still have an opposition and a fight on your hands. A huge fight in fact. Hence the constant carping from over there. You musta expected a cakewalk eh.
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Full of assumptions, half truths, and bull****, as usual.
 
Vern said:
Oh OC, "wah wah vern" and "nuh uh" are not debate. You understood the concept when you said this



Lets review. You started off with "wah wah Congress has no right". You found out that was false so you moved the goal posts to "wah wah probable cause". That too blew up in your face. quite massively I might add. Now you've been reduced to whining about me. so again, I knew you were lying when you said this.
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Vern, this is why you do not get serious responses from anyone. Anyone that puts wah wah multiple times in their posts isn't interested in a civil conversation, you have proven that on every occasion I have ever engaged you in this forum.

Again with the lying bull****. My opinion differs from yours, that is no reason for you to make that accusation, over and over and over. Past time to engage with some decency, Vern.
 
OpportunityCost said:
Vern, this is why you do not get serious responses from anyone. Anyone that puts wah wah multiple times in their posts isn't interested in a civil conversation, you have proven that on every occasion I have ever engaged you in this forum.

Again with the lying bull****. My opinion differs from yours, that is no reason for you to make that accusation, over and over and over. Past time to engage with some decency, Vern.
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You're whining about me instead of address the facts I've posted. "wah wah" is quite appropriate. And thanks for the hilarious "I'm not interested in a civil conversation". Once you could no longer move the goal posts or deny the facts out come the whiny vitriol from you

OpportunityCost said:
The world according to Vern. Full of half truths and partisan horse****. Bye, Vern.
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OpportunityCost said:
If you EVER post a fact, be assured, I will respond to it.
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OpportunityCost said:
Oh,vern, no one cares. You twisting every piece of information you find is nothing new, its your standard MO. Its why no one cares.
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OpportunityCost said:
Poor Vern, thinking any of his insane ramblings are something anyone cares about. A shame.
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OpportunityCost said:
Again with the lying bull****.
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Yea, there's a lot of "wah wah Vern" in there. And OC, of course your "opinion" differs from mine. But I've posted facts. You've only whined about me. See the difference?
 
Tangmo said:
I still don't know your views exist in a coherent and comprehensive manner. The reason is that your posts are almost entirely carping about other posters.
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Oh, they do. Much, much, much more coherent than yours. I carp about other posters that do not try to meet points but deflect away from them, toss red herrings, and never have any backing for anything they assert. That is why you feel that way, you do all of those, constantly.
 
Vern said:
You're whining about me instead of address the facts I've posted. "wah wah" is quite appropriate. And thanks for the hilarious "I'm not interested in a civil conversation". Once you could no longer move the goal posts or deny the facts out come the whiny vitriol from you







Yea, there's a lot of "wah wah Vern" in there. And OC, of course your "opinion" differs from mine. But I've posted facts. You've only whined about me. See the difference?
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That ship has sailed, you have acted in bad faith so many times that the first move needs to be made by you. Not just with me, but with over half of the forum.
 
OpportunityCost said:
Oh, they do. Much, much, much more coherent than yours. I carp about other posters that do not try to meet points but deflect away from them, toss red herrings, and never have any backing for anything they assert. That is why you feel that way, you do all of those, constantly.
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Carping confirmed.

As if any confirmation of the grossly obvious were needed.

It isn't.
 
Tangmo said:
Carping confirmed.

As if any confirmation of the grossly obvious were needed.

It isn't.
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Of you. Not of all my posts. You need to rise above your paranoid, jingoistic, rambling posting style full of assumptions and half truths and you can get a response. But you won't.
 
OpportunityCost said:
Of you. Not of all my posts. You need to rise above your paranoid, jingoistic, rambling posting style full of assumptions and half truths and you can get a response. But you won't.
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I posted a succession of your carping to other posters and I commented on 'em. Now you're carping about being taken to task for -- carping.
 
Tangmo said:
I posted a succession of your carping to other posters and I commented on 'em. Now you're carping about being taken to task for -- carping.
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That post goes beyond carping, this is part of why you don't deserve a decent response, your ability to comprehend things is limited to what you want it to be about.
 
OpportunityCost said:
That post goes beyond carping, this is part of why you don't deserve a decent response, your ability to comprehend things is limited to what you want it to be about.
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The triumph of the will over there involves a fierce pursuit in the view that he who posts last wins. You guys flaw in this is that you never know whether you're winning or losing which is the aspect of this that matters most.
 
Tangmo said:
The triumph of the will over there involves a fierce pursuit in the view that he who posts last wins. You guys flaw in this is that you never know whether you're winning or losing which is the aspect of this that matters most.
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A Nazi reference. How unexpected... :roll:
 
OpportunityCost said:
That ship has sailed, you have acted in bad faith so many times that the first move needs to be made by you. Not just with me, but with over half of the forum.
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OC, I realize your whiny post makes perfect sense to you but our discussion started quite amicably when I showed you congress indeed has the right to review trump's taxes. You then moved the goal posts to "probable cause". I showed you ample probable cause. it was so ample, you couldn't come up with anything coherent as a rebuttal. When somebody like you who is not limited to the facts is not able to even respond, it only proves how ample the probable cause is. So to be clear the "bad faith" you are whining about started with you. Notice how your steady stream of insults didn't deter me from making and proving my points. I'm not looking for an excuse to cut and run. You are.
 
Vern said:
OC, I realize your whiny post makes perfect sense to you but our discussion started quite amicably when I showed you congress indeed has the right to review trump's taxes. You then moved the goal posts to "probable cause". I showed you ample probable cause. it was so ample, you couldn't come up with anything coherent as a rebuttal. When somebody like you who is not limited to the facts is not able to even respond, it only proves how ample the probable cause is. So to be clear the "bad faith" you are whining about started with you. Notice how your steady stream of insults didn't deter me from making and proving my points. I'm not looking for an excuse to cut and run. You are.
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Nah, Vern, you go for insults and demeaning words first last and always. Someone that insults everyone else constantly isn't going to run from insults because they are defective enough to think insulting is okay and normal. That's you. In every interaction, ever.
 
OpportunityCost said:
Nah, Vern, you go for insults and demeaning words first last and always. Someone that insults everyone else constantly isn't going to run from insults because they are defective enough to think insulting is okay and normal. That's you. In every interaction, ever.
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wah wah wah. OC, its real simple. You posted falsehoods that you couldn't in any way support. I posted facts that shredded your obedient falsehoods. You now have to "feign umbrage" as an excuse to cut and run. Have you noticed how you always "get fed up" with me after I've shredded your narratives? I have. And OC, here's the best part, I'm not insulting you. I'm just telling like it is.
 
pamak said:
Your explanation makes zero sense. When top Trump (and not Clinton) officials meet with Russians in the Trump Tower meeting, such meetings cannot be easily discredited and blame Clinton for it. This is even more so when the time until the elections was just too short to have any in depth investigation to try to put Clinton into the picture. it was a year after the election and after the start of Congressional investigations that we learned that Clinton hired Fusion. Notice the date in the following article

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...3470754bbb9_story.html?utm_term=.bd90947b7f06


Rosalind S. Helderman
October 24, 2017

The Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee helped fund research that resulted in a now-famous dossier containing allegations about President Trump's connections to Russia and possible coordination between his campaign and the Kremlin, people familiar with the matter said.

If you think that the Trump meeting was some type of a trap orchestrated by Fusion, then Trump jr fell for it and makes no sense not to have Clinton exploit this before the election!
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Desperate people do desperate things...Tell me, has Carter Page been indicted?

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Tangmo said:
Trump did nothing to correct the Republican platform at or from the convention that Manafort modified into a pro Russian document. Manafort turned the platform on its head and in Trump's name to make it pro Russian. Manafort and Trump are two sleazebags from way back. Each of 'em has a long history of lawless conduct and behavior that together constitute a pattern and practice of anarchy. Now you're griping at Democrats because you're stuck holding the bag for Trump and we're all over you for it.






The 2016 election produced a new mass phenomenon in American politics called the sore winner. You're still angry and carrying on. Bitter, that we over here didn't surrender in any way to your will. In other words you know you still have an opposition and a fight on your hands. A huge fight in fact. Hence the constant carping from over there. You musta expected a cakewalk eh.
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I think in some circles this post would qualify as textbook projection

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j-mac said:
I think in some circles this post would qualify as textbook projection

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I was posting to Opportunity Cost so you too have lost another opportunity and at a great cost also.

You're free of course to post in this way.

All the same however you might check your profit and loss statement along the way to avoid the sticker shock. It's a thought also that as Trump is avoiding disclosing his tax filings then it's likely Trump avoided his taxes too.
 
Vern said:
wah wah wah. OC, its real simple. You posted falsehoods that you couldn't in any way support. I posted facts that shredded your obedient falsehoods. You now have to "feign umbrage" as an excuse to cut and run. Have you noticed how you always "get fed up" with me after I've shredded your narratives? I have. And OC, here's the best part, I'm not insulting you. I'm just telling like it is.
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Really? Then you should report yourself. An insult can be true in this forum and its still an insult and reportable. Not that you have a handle on the truth, you just spout a lot of subjective, opinionated nonsense.
 
OpportunityCost said:
Really? Then you should report yourself. An insult can be true in this forum and its still an insult and reportable. Not that you have a handle on the truth, you just spout a lot of subjective, opinionated nonsense.
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Oh OC, see how you want to continue to whine about me instead of addressing the facts I posted. I understand perfectly. As a conservative, you think its okay to not acknowledge you've posted false conservative narratives. And I proven them to be false. You lack the integrity to admit it hence the "whine about vern" and "feign umbrage" posts. anyhoo, if you ever find the courage to respond in an honest and intelligent manner, just address the ample probable cause I posted that shows congress has every reason to use their legal authority to examine trump's taxes.
 
Vern said:
Oh OC, see how you want to continue to whine about me instead of addressing the facts I posted. I understand perfectly. As a conservative, you think its okay to not acknowledge you've posted false conservative narratives. And I proven them to be false. You lack the integrity to admit it hence the "whine about vern" and "feign umbrage" posts. anyhoo, if you ever find the courage to respond in an honest and intelligent manner, just address the ample probable cause I posted that shows congress has every reason to use their legal authority to examine trump's taxes.
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Vern, you have proven nothing false other than your own opinions, biases. Nothing is ever going to change your mind on any issue and I hope you are being compensated well for your pro liberal economic results posts. there is nothing honest or intelligent in your posts as you ignore official data and buy what you are told. the left sure has created a loyal following of people who don't care about their credibility and have no pride in themselves.

Two years into the Trump Presidency, there is no reason to release his tax returns as he has done nothing to warrant your attacks or lies about him or his results
 
Vern said:
Oh OC, see how you want to continue to whine about me instead of addressing the facts I posted. I understand perfectly. As a conservative, you think its okay to not acknowledge you've posted false conservative narratives. And I proven them to be false. You lack the integrity to admit it hence the "whine about vern" and "feign umbrage" posts. anyhoo, if you ever find the courage to respond in an honest and intelligent manner, just address the ample probable cause I posted that shows congress has every reason to use their legal authority to examine trump's taxes.
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Dude, no one cares. Absolutely no one, because every time I do this with you, no one comes to your defense. You make other liberals look bad. They hate your posting style, its asinine, you don't support much of anything and all you do is provoke and give an arrogance laden opinion, over and over.

Learn how to have a conversation.
 
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