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Republicans Ask Democrats To Please Leave Trump's Tax Returns ALONE

Trump is bread and circuses and so are His Fanboyz.

The greatest show on earth busted.

Trump and His Fanboys are a cross between Barnum and Baily in the WH and the Salem trials at DP. The fanboys post as if nothing were happening outside their posts. That is, Mueller doesn't exist and Putin is in Moscow minding his own business.

So they're busted squared.
 
Trump is bread and circuses and so are His Fanboyz.

The greatest show on earth busted.

Trump and His Fanboys are a cross between Barnum and Baily in the WH and the Salem trials at DP. The fanboys post as if nothing were happening outside their posts. That is, Mueller doesn't exist and Putin is in Moscow minding his own business.

So they're busted squared.

There certainly is something in the DNA of a liberal/progressive that causes them to be 24/7 negative on everything positive in this country including individual wealth creation and individual privacy except on issues that the radical left supports. For over 2 years now the left has kept the Trump/Putin issue on the front burner totally ignoring that no actual results support that relationship but that doesn't matter to the left

The left seems to always want a politician in office, one they can manipulate and control if Republican and one that won't fight back like Trump is doing. They tried to destroy Reagan, did destroy GHW Bush preventing him from a second term, and spent the last 16 year demonizing Bush so it is not surprising that you and others continue that trend against Trump

It is sad to see the education system in this country creating people like the radical left who offer nothing but misery, jealousy, class envy and economic policies that create dependence for everyone BUT the liberal elites. It is total ignorance to ignore the role of the state and local governments and to continue to promote that liberal utopia that previous groups of liberals have tried to create

There is absolutely no justification for calling for Trump's tax returns two years after he was elected. The only reason is the left continues to try and find anything to embarrass Trump in hopes of returning to power in the WH along with a socialist gov't to promote their entitlement utopia and permanent power.

It was Democrats that wanted the WH so badly in 2008 that even with total control of the Gov't they did nothing to prevent the recession and did nothing to generate economic activity to bring us out of recession. Now these same radicals are reusing the playbook with Trump in office and control of the House. Thankfully we have a Republican Senate as checks and balances. Interesting that the 40 seat gain in the House trumps the over 60 seat Republican gains in the 2010 elections and quite telling how the left ignores official data being generated
 
Dude, no one cares. Absolutely no one, because every time I do this with you, no one comes to your defense. You make other liberals look bad. They hate your posting style, its asinine, you don't support much of anything and all you do is provoke and give an arrogance laden opinion, over and over.

Learn how to have a conversation.

geez OC, you cant even whine about me honestly. You came to this thread believing congress didn't have the right to look at Trump's taxes. I proved that wrong. So you moved the goal post to "probable cause". I gave you an excellent list of trump's lies and being surrounded by criminals and his pro quo arrangement with Putin(post 801). Since there is no way you can pretend not to know about his many lies and criminal friends, I didnt feel the need to back those up. But I showed you how his actions towards Nato are exactly as predicted by the Steele Dossier. Now obviously you have a magic narrative to explain away trump's lies and his criminal friends but there is really no way to spin him doing putin's bidding exactly as predicted by the Steele Dossier. Here's me "supporting" my point again.

"Parts of the dossier have been stood up and in places it looks prophetic. One Steele memo says the Kremlin was behind the hacking of DNC emails, claiming these were released via WikiLeaks for reasons of “plausible deniability”. In return, Trump agreed to “sideline Russian intervention in Ukraine” as a campaign issue and to raise “US/Nato defence commitments in the Baltics and eastern Europe” to deflect attention.

This is precisely what happened at the Republican National Convention last July, when language on the US’s commitment to Ukraine was mysteriously softened. Meanwhile, in a series of tweets, Trump questioned whether US allies were paying enough into Nato coffers.
"
What do we know about alleged links between Trump and Russia? | US news | The Guardian

And you said you would respond to any fact I post. OC, the good news is I don't think you're doing the "feign umbrage" routine anymore. You're just not used to be held accountable for your own words. Trump gets angry at that too.
 
Another Trump hater who has chowed down on the multimedia nonsensical nothingburgers.

Dismissed.

Unfortunately facts cannot be denied.
 
Vern, you have proven nothing false other than your own opinions, biases. Nothing is ever going to change your mind on any issue and I hope you are being compensated well for your pro liberal economic results posts. there is nothing honest or intelligent in your posts as you ignore official data and buy what you are told. the left sure has created a loyal following of people who don't care about their credibility and have no pride in themselves.

Two years into the Trump Presidency, there is no reason to release his tax returns as he has done nothing to warrant your attacks or lies about him or his results

Considering his behaviour, track record, tweets, expression of views and abnormality there are a lot of things that prompt a release of his tax returns.
 
geez OC, you cant even whine about me honestly. You came to this thread believing congress didn't have the right to look at Trump's taxes. I proved that wrong. So you moved the goal post to "probable cause". I gave you an excellent list of trump's lies and being surrounded by criminals and his pro quo arrangement with Putin(post 801). Since there is no way you can pretend not to know about his many lies and criminal friends, I didnt feel the need to back those up. But I showed you how his actions towards Nato are exactly as predicted by the Steele Dossier. Now obviously you have a magic narrative to explain away trump's lies and his criminal friends but there is really no way to spin him doing putin's bidding exactly as predicted by the Steele Dossier. Here's me "supporting" my point again.



And you said you would respond to any fact I post. OC, the good news is I don't think you're doing the "feign umbrage" routine anymore. You're just not used to be held accountable for your own words. Trump gets angry at that too.

Poor Vern, thinking anyone cares.
 
Considering his behaviour, track record, tweets, expression of views and abnormality there are a lot of things that prompt a release of his tax returns.
Your opinion noted but two years in? NO! What value now? Election 2 years!

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Poor Vern, thinking anyone cares.

OC, that's not debate. That's you dishonestly and/or cowardly deflecting from my posts. and not only were my posts thread related, they are in direct response to what you posted. I don't have to dishonestly and/or cowardly deflect from your posts. My beliefs don't require me to flush my integrity down the toilet like you. Again, you came to this thread believing congress didn't have the right to look at Trump's taxes. I proved that wrong. So you moved the goal post to "probable cause". I gave you an excellent list of trump's lies and being surrounded by criminals and his pro quo arrangement with Putin(post 801).

And OC, you said it best

Please address the topic...if you can. Hint: I am not the topic.
 
Your opinion noted but two years in? NO! What value now? Election 2 years!

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My view constructed Day 1 of Presidency.
 
I was posting to Opportunity Cost so you too have lost another opportunity and at a great cost also.

You posted in open forum...If you want to have a private conversation, then use the PM feature....

You're free of course to post in this way.

Thanks but I don't need your permission, nor your smug BS....

All the same however you might check your profit and loss statement along the way to avoid the sticker shock. It's a thought also that as Trump is avoiding disclosing his tax filings then it's likely Trump avoided his taxes too.

I don't operate a business, I am an employee....But, as for Trump avoiding taxes, tell me, do you approach your taxes with the intent to pay the maximum you could possibly pay? Or like most people do you look for legal ways to lower your tax exposure?
 
OC, that's not debate. That's you dishonestly and/or cowardly deflecting from my posts. and not only were my posts thread related, they are in direct response to what you posted. I don't have to dishonestly and/or cowardly deflect from your posts. My beliefs don't require me to flush my integrity down the toilet like you. Again, you came to this thread believing congress didn't have the right to look at Trump's taxes. I proved that wrong. So you moved the goal post to "probable cause". I gave you an excellent list of trump's lies and being surrounded by criminals and his pro quo arrangement with Putin(post 801).

And OC, you said it best

You burned your bridges already. I have no intention of taking you seriously anywhere other than where you are forced to be civil. You don't see anyone else replying to your crap do you?
 
My view constructed Day 1 of Presidency.

That was two years ago so tell me after two years what results have been generated to support your claims against Trump? You think the U.S. economy is benefiting Putin? How about the build up of our Military? how about NATO increasing their defense spending? Please tell me how a country of 143 million people(Russia) is benefiting from Trump?? Our problem isn't Russia is is China with its 1 billion people.
 
You burned your bridges already. I have no intention of taking you seriously anywhere other than where you are forced to be civil. You don't see anyone else replying to your crap do you?

First OC, I'm not posting crap. If I was posting crap you'd be able to shred it the way I shredded your "congress doesn't have the right" or when you moved the goal posts to "there is no probable cause." Your nonstop whining about me is not debate. But lets face it, you're looking for any excuse to not debate the facts I've posted. so please stop whining about me.

Please address the topic...if you can. Hint: I am not the topic.
 
First OC, I'm not posting crap. If I was posting crap you'd be able to shred it the way I shredded your "congress doesn't have the right" or when you moved the goal posts to "there is no probable cause." Your nonstop whining about me is not debate. But lets face it, you're looking for any excuse to not debate the facts I've posted. so please stop whining about me.

Vern, you ALWAYS post crap, its your defining feature.
 
That was two years ago so tell me after two years what results have been generated to support your claims against Trump? You think the U.S. economy is benefiting Putin? How about the build up of our Military? how about NATO increasing their defense spending? Please tell me how a country of 143 million people(Russia) is benefiting from Trump?? Our problem isn't Russia is is China with its 1 billion people.

1- His offensive, absurd and sometimes very strange tweets. A president should and does have the obligation to uphold a level of dignity. But it seems all standards were suddenly lowered for Trump

2- Misuse of power in areas relating to CIA director John Brennan’s security clearance and many other cases

3- NAFTA discussions

4- Stormy Daniels allegations

5- Russian and United States allegations

6- Now his senseless building of a wall removing key funding from military and money of which could be invested in Americans for schools, hospitals, domestic violence. There are other ways to deal with border protection, its abnormal to decide to build a wall with no proven success.
 
1- His offensive, absurd and sometimes very strange tweets. A president should and does have the obligation to uphold a level of dignity. But it seems all standards were suddenly lowered for Trump

2- Misuse of power in areas relating to CIA director John Brennan’s security clearance and many other cases

3- NAFTA discussions

4- Stormy Daniels allegations

5- Russian and United States allegations

6- Now his senseless building of a wall removing key funding from military and money of which could be invested in Americans for schools, hospitals, domestic violence. There are other ways to deal with border protection, its abnormal to decide to build a wall with no proven success.

You spend way too much time focusing on personality and rhetoric and none on actual results. For 8 years you bought the Obama rhetoric and obviously want a politician in the WH who tells you what you want to here and then ignore the results. There is absolutely nothing in the results that show Trump is beholden to anyone and results are all that matters, not your perception.

You really don't understand national security do you? The wall is preventing people from getting into this country that are costing us billions and causing havoc in cities all over the nation. Trump isn't removing funding from any military obligation and in fact has increased military spending

Biased partisan opinions mean absolutely nothing, results do
 
Trump is bread and circuses.

His Fanboys are elephants on parade trunk to tail.

Marching over the cliff you are.
 
You spend way too much time focusing on personality and rhetoric and none on actual results. For 8 years you bought the Obama rhetoric and obviously want a politician in the WH who tells you what you want to here and then ignore the results.

Firstly....why are you assuming my political views on Obama?? Obama does not even need to be brought into this discussion.

The facts are the facts and standards need to be upheld. Here is the problem, its because he has a)money and b) power

TRUMP IS 'EMPLOYED' BY THE PEOPLE

If the words, actions and tweets made by Mr Trump were said by any employee of any business they backside would have been fired before they could have said "but"

No ethics for the President. One standard for the President and a different standard for everyone else.


You really don't understand national security do you? The wall is preventing people from getting into this country that are costing us billions and causing havoc in cities all over the nation. Trump isn't removing funding from any military obligation and in fact has increased military spending

Biased partisan opinions mean absolutely nothing, results do

Quite obviously you don't...because you have no idea about a policy of which you support

I am going to quote Mr Trumps office:
We have plans to draw some $3.6 billion from a Department of Defense military construction account and $2.5 billion from the military's drug interdiction program.

What other country has built a wall and has proven success?
 
Firstly....why are you assuming my political views on Obama?? Obama does not even need to be brought into this discussion.

The facts are the facts and standards need to be upheld. Here is the problem, its because he has a)money and b) power

TRUMP IS 'EMPLOYED' BY THE PEOPLE

If the words, actions and tweets made by Mr Trump were said by any employee of any business they backside would have been fired before they could have said "but"

No ethics for the President. One standard for the President and a different standard for everyone else.




Quite obviously you don't...because you have no idea about a policy of which you support

I am going to quote Mr Trumps office:
We have plans to draw some $3.6 billion from a Department of Defense military construction account and $2.5 billion from the military's drug interdiction program.

What other country has built a wall and has proven success?

Trump was hired to generate the results he has generated that are being ignored. You don't like Trump, got it but that is irrelevant. I asked you a question what economic or foreign policy results show that he is beholden to any foreign power? Why won't you or anyone else answer that?

What Trump does in office does matter, what happened prior to being in office doesn't as that is old news. Releasing his tax returns now for what purpose? You have to have a reason and he has given you none based upon the results

what country has built a wall and has proven Successful? OMG, ISRAEL. What is your real problem with the wall? do you not understand that illegal immigration is a fiscal and physical cost to this country in billions and billions of dollars

This is a national defense issue and maybe one of these days you will realize it, hope it isn't too late.
 
Trump was hired to generate the results he has generated that are being ignored. You don't like Trump, got it but that is irrelevant. I asked you a question what economic or foreign policy results show that he is beholden to any foreign power? Why won't you or anyone else answer that?

What Trump does in office does matter, what happened prior to being in office doesn't as that is old news. Releasing his tax returns now for what purpose? You have to have a reason and he has given you none based upon the results

what country has built a wall and has proven Successful? OMG, ISRAEL. What is your real problem with the wall? do you not understand that illegal immigration is a fiscal and physical cost to this country in billions and billions of dollars

This is a national defense issue and maybe one of these days you will realize it, hope it isn't too late.

1- I asked a very clear question....why are you assuming my political views on Obama?? Don't put forth assumptions without being answerable to why you made that assumption.

2- How is it irrelevant when I have a strong basis for the dislike and is why we are having this discussion....if I liked Trump this conversation would be non-existent. What a nonsense claim to make..

3. Considering you never asked a question of that nature, it becomes a bit hard to answer it. Maybe you could insight me with that knowledge because you seem to dislike every response I provide which isn't complimentary of your view.


IT DOES MATTER. ITS THE WHOLE POINT. WHEN HIRED IN A JOB (BEING PRESIDENT IS A JOB) ARE YOU NOW TELLING ME THAT THE BOSS OF APPLE WOULD NOT LOOK AT SOMEONES PRIOR HISTORY, ACTIONS AND INVOLVEMENTS BEFORE HIRING AND MAKE THAT A CONSIDERATION WHE CHOOSING THE BEST CANDIDATE??. WHAT A RIDICULOUS CLAIM

4. Finally to the wall.....what a supporter you are.

A middle eastern country ravished by war is your only example.....can you match that with the USA.....absolutely not.

There are a number of problems with the wall:

a) Its a reactionary policy with a motive of which seeks to do the following: an overhaul of asylum laws, stepped-up interior enforcement, and a broad crackdown on legal immigration on the scale of the Trump-endorsed RAISE Act. The RAISE Act is a plan to cut legal immigration levels in half.

So the basis is...its also going to stop legal immigrants from resettling. I will repeat LEGAL...who have gone through due process, due course and due time to obtain legality.

the following are based upon research conducted by PROFESSOR EMERITUS MICHAEL DEAR

b) A lot of undocumented immigrants are already here.

c) Cartels can outsmart checkpoints.

Cartels are clever and tactical in adjusting their behavior. Lately, they have begun smuggling weapon parts into Mexico rather than whole guns, because parts are easier to conceal and have no identification numbers, making them harder to trace.

d) Terrorists aren’t undocumented.

Trump has proclaimed that building a wall on the Southern border will thwart terrorists. Yet there is no evidence that any terrorists have ever entered the U.S. through the Mexican land boundary, and the Department of Homeland Security has long held that it has “no credible intelligence to suggest terrorist organizations are actively plotting to cross the southwest border.”

e) The main reason people risk undocumented migration is to find work. The Mexican recession of the 1980s brought waves of undocumented immigrants into the U.S. looking for employment, but their numbers declined dramatically as Mexico’s domestic economy strengthened. These days most Mexicans moving to the border intend to stay in Mexico and work in the booming local manufacturing, healthcare and education industries there; they have no intention of crossing into the U.S.

So why wouldn't he assist Mexico in funding and programs, where he could spend half the amount. I forget he is reactionary rather than proactive.

5. Immigration courts are already overwhelmed.

Our immigration courts are already poised at breaking point, but Trump announced his intention to target 3 million more people for deportation. If this happens, the immigration court system will simply grind to a halt.

This link also shows, in a comprehensive manner, why the Israel wall is not a good example and why Trumps claims supporting it are wrong and deceptive:
Donald Trump is wrong about Israel's 'security' wall | Israel | Al Jazeera
 
1- I asked a very clear question....why are you assuming my political views on Obama?? Don't put forth assumptions without being answerable to why you made that assumption.

2- How is it irrelevant when I have a strong basis for the dislike and is why we are having this discussion....if I liked Trump this conversation would be non-existent. What a nonsense claim to make..

3. Considering you never asked a question of that nature, it becomes a bit hard to answer it. Maybe you could insight me with that knowledge because you seem to dislike every response I provide which isn't complimentary of your view.


IT DOES MATTER. ITS THE WHOLE POINT. WHEN HIRED IN A JOB (BEING PRESIDENT IS A JOB) ARE YOU NOW TELLING ME THAT THE BOSS OF APPLE WOULD NOT LOOK AT SOMEONES PRIOR HISTORY, ACTIONS AND INVOLVEMENTS BEFORE HIRING AND MAKE THAT A CONSIDERATION WHE CHOOSING THE BEST CANDIDATE??. WHAT A RIDICULOUS CLAIM

4. Finally to the wall.....what a supporter you are.

A middle eastern country ravished by war is your only example.....can you match that with the USA.....absolutely not.

There are a number of problems with the wall:

a) Its a reactionary policy with a motive of which seeks to do the following: an overhaul of asylum laws, stepped-up interior enforcement, and a broad crackdown on legal immigration on the scale of the Trump-endorsed RAISE Act. The RAISE Act is a plan to cut legal immigration levels in half.

So the basis is...its also going to stop legal immigrants from resettling. I will repeat LEGAL...who have gone through due process, due course and due time to obtain legality.

the following are based upon research conducted by PROFESSOR EMERITUS MICHAEL DEAR

b) A lot of undocumented immigrants are already here.

c) Cartels can outsmart checkpoints.

Cartels are clever and tactical in adjusting their behavior. Lately, they have begun smuggling weapon parts into Mexico rather than whole guns, because parts are easier to conceal and have no identification numbers, making them harder to trace.

d) Terrorists aren’t undocumented.

Trump has proclaimed that building a wall on the Southern border will thwart terrorists. Yet there is no evidence that any terrorists have ever entered the U.S. through the Mexican land boundary, and the Department of Homeland Security has long held that it has “no credible intelligence to suggest terrorist organizations are actively plotting to cross the southwest border.”

e) The main reason people risk undocumented migration is to find work. The Mexican recession of the 1980s brought waves of undocumented immigrants into the U.S. looking for employment, but their numbers declined dramatically as Mexico’s domestic economy strengthened. These days most Mexicans moving to the border intend to stay in Mexico and work in the booming local manufacturing, healthcare and education industries there; they have no intention of crossing into the U.S.

So why wouldn't he assist Mexico in funding and programs, where he could spend half the amount. I forget he is reactionary rather than proactive.

5. Immigration courts are already overwhelmed.

Our immigration courts are already poised at breaking point, but Trump announced his intention to target 3 million more people for deportation. If this happens, the immigration court system will simply grind to a halt.

This link also shows, in a comprehensive manner, why the Israel wall is not a good example and why Trumps claims supporting it are wrong and deceptive:
Donald Trump is wrong about Israel's 'security' wall | Israel | Al Jazeera

Nice novel and totally ignorant of reality. We had an election, the people chose Trump and he was elected like all Presidents by the electoral college due to our Founders not wanting things like the socialist state of California to elect the President. What happened prior to the election was known and Trump endured because one, he wasn't Hillary, and two he wasn't going to continue the Obama economic and foreign policies thus enacting the change needed. The results indicate that he is doing exactly what I had hoped for, generating positive economic results that many want to ignore and believe would have happened without him although there is no proof of that.

You will have an opportunity to vote him out of office in 2 years thus making his tax returns irrelevant now. He has been audited by the IRS and if there is any example of him being beholden to any foreign gov't I haven't seen it and it isn't in the results generated.
 
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