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    And it looks like you lost.

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    Re: Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Releases Green New Deal Outline

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    It's where that money is spent that generates the revenue not just the initial tax itself. Macro economics.
    Of course, but we are talking about lots of major money losers all at once. Even if we do see a positive ROI, it will take a decade minimum. The initial money won't be close to enough to fund stage 1, so we have to borrow trillions using this proposal as a method of paying back.

    Not only do we lose money at an astonishing rate, but our credit rating hits a worldwide low.
    Omniscience just sucks without omnipotence!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keridan View Post
    Of course, but we are talking about lots of major money losers all at once. Even if we do see a positive ROI, it will take a decade minimum. The initial money won't be close to enough to fund stage 1, so we have to borrow trillions using this proposal as a method of paying back.

    Not only do we lose money at an astonishing rate, but our credit rating hits a worldwide low.
    It is a framework. The rollout won't being as dire as you are predicting. If it ever gets rolled out at all. It's a wonder how we ever passed anything with such pervasive pessimism in America.
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    Re: Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Releases Green New Deal Outline

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Any time AOC is mentioned the opposition to her in this forum is generally one of these two:

    1. Call her stupid and/or naive
    2. Play the irrelevant hyperbole game



    They just can't seem to refute her or her policies straight up.
    That's because she is stupid and naive!

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    Re: Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Releases Green New Deal Outline

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Green New Deal Has Overwhelming Bipartisan Support, Poll Finds. At Least, For Now.
    Sixty-four percent of Republicans — including 57 percent of conservative Republicans — back the core tenets of the sweeping proposal.

    Funny how you think you are a majority.
    And how many people in that poll actually read the document?
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    Re: Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Releases Green New Deal Outline

    Quote Originally Posted by Mongidig View Post
    That's because she is stupid and naive!
    She is who the true silent majority support. Overall independents outnumber Dems and pubs. Independent does not mean centrist it simply means you don't like either party.

    However polling has shown steady support among independents forever for Bernie Sanders platform.

    If the dims ignore that we get Trump 2.0. if they support it the Republicans lose, horribly.

    The question is, are the Dems going to be brave, or be centrist? Pundits are saying they can't win without a centrist. They're wrong. We just had a centrist run as a democrat and look what happened.

    Of course faux news is ramping up the assault on progs. Could be because they know what I just posted is completely true.
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    Re: Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Releases Green New Deal Outline

    Quote Originally Posted by Obscurity View Post
    She is who the true silent majority support. Overall independents outnumber Dems and pubs. Independent does not mean centrist it simply means you don't like either party.

    However polling has shown steady support among independents forever for Bernie Sanders platform.

    If the dims ignore that we get Trump 2.0. if they support it the Republicans lose, horribly.

    The question is, are the Dems going to be brave, or be centrist? Pundits are saying they can't win without a centrist. They're wrong. We just had a centrist run as a democrat and look what happened.

    Of course faux news is ramping up the assault on progs. Could be because they know what I just posted is completely true.
    Does/should the use of the term highlighted automatically put you in the lemming category??

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    Re: Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Releases Green New Deal Outline

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    It is a framework. The rollout won't being as dire as you are predicting. If it ever gets rolled out at all. It's a wonder how we ever passed anything with such pervasive pessimism in America.
    It's not really even a framework. There isn't enough of an outline to really build on. More a resolution or manifesto. The most that will ever come of it is campaign statements... "I introduced the new green deal!".

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    Re: Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Releases Green New Deal Outline

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Perhaps. And this wraps it up pretty neatly with a bow on top...


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    Re: Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Releases Green New Deal Outline

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    There seems to be a growing number of Americans very unhappy with Trump's tax cuts. Seems refunds are way down and more people owe taxes this year than last.

    Average Tax Refunds Down 8.4 Percent As Angry Taxpayers Vent On Twitter
    I will never understand why people want the govt to bank their money.

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