Fact-checking President Trump’s 2019 State of the Union address

Conservative said:

Yes, and he inherited a Democratic Congress, TARP that recapitalized the banks and no 2009 budget. His stimulus was signed almost day one and none of the money was spent prior to us coming out of recession according to recovery.org, just another minor detail you want to ignore

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A D congress that had barely been in power 2 years...after a president plunged us into 2 wars, committing TRILLIONS of US dollars.

Obama inherited a recession. A recession that was well underway when he took office, and didn't end until a year or two after he took office. He didn't create that, but DESPITE that, the economy turned around. Trump got to reap the rewards of that turn around and years of sustained growth. He was very lucky.

Yes he did and was in that Congress that apparently had no impact on 2007, 2008 or 2009 economic policies as you seem to want to ignore. Total incompetence??

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And yet, under his presidency, we saw years of sustained stock growth, reduction in the unemployment rate, and a steady increase in private sector hiring and a reduction in public sector hiring.

As state many times and ignored, a job loss that returns isn't a job created and has also been stated a part time job is included in the employment numbers and isn't to be touted. These are people who wanted full time jobs but couldn't find them in that booming Obama economy

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Part time work is better than no work. Obama couldn't force people to hire. But they did, and we've had years of sustained job growth now. Trump has managed not to screw it up, but he is exploding the deficit. I remember when Tea Parties were happening all over the country because of the deficit, and now they're nowhere to be found. Weird.

that is true but misses the point which is intentional on your part, there are two kinds of part time jobs, people who want them and people who want full time jobs but for economic reasons couldn't find one. The latter is what Obama created and that skewed the employment and unemployment numbers. Further you don't want to talk about employment going down 4 million in 2009 with the stimulus and 3 million in 2010 With the stimulus thus that is the base you and the radical left want to use.

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Of course we can talk about it. No one expected the recession to end on a dime. With both the US and world economies collapsing, this was never going to be a fast turn around. Of course it was going to take time. And we've had long-term, sustained job growth, long-term, sustained market increases. It's great. And Trump is lucky to have inherited that. But he's also spending the country's money like it's his own. And the deficit is exploding. Where can I find the next tea party rally?

some people, you, just don't have it in your DNA to admit when wrong and to you a thriving economy is massive govt. spending, massive debt and 1.6% GDP growth. Interesting how his numbers are so much better after he left office leaving me to wonder and asking you for information as to what policies he had in place to generate those numbers in 2017 that he was unable to do while creating the worst recovery in U.S. history from a recession??

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Worst recovery from a recession? This was the 2nd worst economic downswing in US history. Slow and steady wins the race, my good friend. I'm glad we did it RIGHT instead of FAST. I haven't been wrong about anything, so there's nothing for me to admit.

We have MASSIVE government spending NOW, massive government debt NOW, and Trump claimed he would end it all during his presidency, didn't he? Well, he's got 2 years left in this term, and the problem isn't getting better. We're spending MORE, but you want to call that success? Weird.

Obama was shrinking the deficit over his last few years. Trump decided to tax less and spend more. How's that working?

What is it about liberalism that creates such loyalty on your part, are you a member of the Obama family or Administration. You refuse to see the data and refuse to acknowledge what economist have already acknowledged, Obama made Jimmy Carter look good

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I voted for Bush Jr twice, didn't vote for Obama either time, and voted for neither Hillary nor Trump. My only two D votes ever were a D who had the NRA endorsement, and whose opponent lied about campaign finance violations, and for a gubernatorial candidate who had a fantastic record in both the public and private sectors, but was running in deep red state against a far-right darling whose greatest accomplishment is parroting Trump.

But nice try! Facts aren't always fun, but they remain facts. That's too bad for you!

Media_Truth said:

The State of the Union address was a conglomeration of lies and exagerrations on topics cherry-picked by the writers. Was there any talk of Climate Change? Was there any talk about the skyrocketing deficit? Was there any talk about failures to address Health Care?

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Well there were a few lies, not nearly as many as the partisan 'fact checkers' would have you believe, but you bring up a good point. The GOP is extremely weak in all 3 of those areas .And until they address then they will continue to leave the door open for a reasonable Democrat to waltz into the WH. It's a sad statement of affairs that they can't seem to come up with one.

party free said:

A D congress that had barely been in power 2 years...after a president plunged us into 2 wars, committing TRILLIONS of US dollars.

Obama inherited a recession. A recession that was well underway when he took office, and didn't end until a year or two after he took office. He didn't create that, but DESPITE that, the economy turned around. Trump got to reap the rewards of that turn around and years of sustained growth. He was very lucky.





And yet, under his presidency, we saw years of sustained stock growth, reduction in the unemployment rate, and a steady increase in private sector hiring and a reduction in public sector hiring.







Part time work is better than no work. Obama couldn't force people to hire. But they did, and we've had years of sustained job growth now. Trump has managed not to screw it up, but he is exploding the deficit. I remember when Tea Parties were happening all over the country because of the deficit, and now they're nowhere to be found. Weird.





Of course we can talk about it. No one expected the recession to end on a dime. With both the US and world economies collapsing, this was never going to be a fast turn around. Of course it was going to take time. And we've had long-term, sustained job growth, long-term, sustained market increases. It's great. And Trump is lucky to have inherited that. But he's also spending the country's money like it's his own. And the deficit is exploding. Where can I find the next tea party rally?




Worst recovery from a recession? This was the 2nd worst economic downswing in US history. Slow and steady wins the race, my good friend. I'm glad we did it RIGHT instead of FAST. I haven't been wrong about anything, so there's nothing for me to admit.

We have MASSIVE government spending NOW, massive government debt NOW, and Trump claimed he would end it all during his presidency, didn't he? Well, he's got 2 years left in this term, and the problem isn't getting better. We're spending MORE, but you want to call that success? Weird.

Obama was shrinking the deficit over his last few years. Trump decided to tax less and spend more. How's that working?



I voted for Bush Jr twice, didn't vote for Obama either time, and voted for neither Hillary nor Trump. My only two D votes ever were a D who had the NRA endorsement, and whose opponent lied about campaign finance violations, and for a gubernatorial candidate who had a fantastic record in both the public and private sectors, but was running in deep red state against a far-right darling whose greatest accomplishment is parroting Trump.

But nice try! Facts aren't always fun, but they remain facts. That's too bad for you!

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If you are an example of the education system we have in this country today we are truly is quite a mess, so much wrong with that post of yours and your total ignorance of the budgets and spending it is a waste of time dealing with you. The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were paid for during the year the money was spent, stop with the lies and posts to the contrary, Obama inherited a 10.6 trillion dollar debt and left it at 20 trillion, the war ended with the status of forces agreement in November 2008, Not sure what you think you are proving but you are proving to most here you are clueless

Conservative said:

If you are an example of the education system we have in this country today we are truly is quite a mess, so much wrong with that post of yours and your total ignorance of the budgets and spending it is a waste of time dealing with you.

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No, there was nothing wrong with my post. Just your refusal to accept the facts as they are, instead of what you want them to be.

The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were paid for during the year the money was spent, stop with the lies and posts to the contrary,

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I didn't lie about anything, and it demonstrates a lack of integrity and class for you to accuse me of such. All I have stated is facts so far. Nothing more, nothing less. Because you don't like them doesn't mean they aren't true.

But I understand the conservative position that falls back on personal insults when you have nothing more to add to the discussion. How very unfortunate.

Obama inherited a 10.6 trillion dollar debt and left it at 20 trillion, the war ended with the status of forces agreement in November 2008, Not sure what you think you are proving but you are proving to most here you are clueless

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The 2008 agreement got us out of Iraq by the end of 2011.

The debt certainly grew during Obama's term-I never denied that. But the DEFICIT was shrinking. You're surely aware of the difference between debt and deficit. The deficit is growing every quickly under Trump, and for some reason, you don't want to talk about that. I get it.

I understand your desire to continually make things personal. It's all conservatives can do these days when they're backed into a corner and have nothing left but their talking points.

When you're ready to accept facts, and knock off the petty insults like our classless president, we can continue!

Sayonara!

party free said:

No, there was nothing wrong with my post. Just your refusal to accept the facts as they are, instead of what you want them to be.




I didn't lie about anything, and it demonstrates a lack of integrity and class for you to accuse me of such. All I have stated is facts so far. Nothing more, nothing less. Because you don't like them doesn't mean they aren't true.

But I understand the conservative position that falls back on personal insults when you have nothing more to add to the discussion. How very unfortunate.



The 2008 agreement got us out of Iraq by the end of 2011.

The debt certainly grew during Obama's term-I never denied that. But the DEFICIT was shrinking. You're surely aware of the difference between debt and deficit. The deficit is growing every quickly under Trump, and for some reason, you don't want to talk about that. I get it.

I understand your desire to continually make things personal. It's all conservatives can do these days when they're backed into a corner and have nothing left but their talking points.

When you're ready to accept facts, and knock off the petty insults like our classless president, we can continue!

Sayonara!

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A shrinking deficit that adds 9.3 trillion dollars to the debt is not something that out. If you bothered to pay attention we have sequester in 2013 and Republicans took Congress in 2014 and gave Obama less than a asked for. Hate to break your bubble but that's reality.

Had we not had sequester and Obama's spending what he wanted the debt would have been more than 9.3 trillion dollars which sets a record

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Conservative said:

A shrinking deficit that adds 9.3 trillion dollars to the debt is not something that out. If you bothered to pay attention we have sequester in 2013 and Republicans took Congress in 2014 and gave Obama less than a asked for. Hate to break your bubble but that's reality.

Had we not had sequester and Obama's spending what he wanted the debt would have been more than 9.3 trillion dollars which sets a record

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Not something that out? What on earth does that mean.

And the deficits shrank under Obama. And Trump decided to explode them with his 2 years having a R congress behind him. Why didn't they do to Trump what they did to Obama and try to curb spending? Whoops!

party free said:

Not something that out? What on earth does that mean.

And the deficits shrank under Obama. And Trump decided to explode them with his 2 years having a R congress behind him. Why didn't they do to Trump what they did to Obama and try to curb spending? Whoops!

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Keep showing how poorly informed you are, tell us all how Trump exploded the deficit with specifics including line items. You have no idea what you are talking about

Obama's declining deficits added 9.3 trillion to the debt. Is that what you want to celebrate or ignore? We pay debt service not deficit service

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Conservative said:

Keep showing how poorly informed you are, tell us all how Trump exploded the deficit with specifics including line items. You have no idea what you are talking about

Obama's declining deficits added 9.3 trillion to the debt. Is that what you want to celebrate or ignore? We pay debt service not deficit service

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More deflection from the master of deception. Another poster talks about Trump's skyrocketing deficit, and you immediately deflect to Obama. It was a different time - a different Republican-caused crisis. Stop deflecting from the Trump deficit, which will soon be surpassing $1 Trillion - the new Republican-caused crisis.

Media_Truth said:

More deflection from the master of deception. Another poster talks about Trump's skyrocketing deficit, and you immediately deflect to Obama. It was a different time - a different Republican-caused crisis. Stop deflecting from the Trump deficit, which will soon be surpassing $1 Trillion - the new Republican-caused crisis.

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I asked you a specific question and you ignored it, please show me exactly what expenses skyrocketed the deficits under Trump and do so with Treasury data? Guess skyrocketing deficits mean something in your world than they did in 2009-2010-2011-2012. I am trying to be civil here but you refuse to acknowledge where spending comes from, the line items in the budget, and totally ignore the 2019 Trump proposed budget. Republican caused crisis?? What exactly does that even mean

Conservative said:

I asked you a specific question and you ignored it, please show me exactly what expenses skyrocketed the deficits under Trump and do so with Treasury data? Guess skyrocketing deficits mean something in your world than they did in 2009-2010-2011-2012. I am trying to be civil here but you refuse to acknowledge where spending comes from, the line items in the budget, and totally ignore the 2019 Trump proposed budget. Republican caused crisis?? What exactly does that even mean

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It means Trump had 2 years with a R congress, and they are exploding the deficit. So when can we expect the tea party to start rallying again?

Conservative said:

Keep showing how poorly informed you are, tell us all how Trump exploded the deficit with specifics including line items. You have no idea what you are talking about

Obama's declining deficits added 9.3 trillion to the debt. Is that what you want to celebrate or ignore? We pay debt service not deficit service

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Obama's deficits were down. Trump's deficits are up. It's that simple.

Now explain how it's Obama's fault Trump both cut income and increased spending!

party free said:

It means Trump had 2 years with a R congress, and they are exploding the deficit. So when can we expect the tea party to start rallying again?

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That certainly is your opinion but again you seem to lack basic civics understanding, how many votes does it take in the Senate to create cloture? I guess it is too much to ask some people to educate themselves on civics

party free said:

Obama's deficits were down. Trump's deficits are up. It's that simple.

Now explain how it's Obama's fault Trump both cut income and increased spending!

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Wow, Obama deficits down, what would the debt be had he not reduced deficits and what exactly did he do to do that? What increased spending? You have yet to post the increased spending line items that "skyrocketed" the deficit, why is that?

Do you know what debt service is? Do you think four interest rate hikes in less than 2 years has any impact? Is that Trump's fault?

Conservative said:

That certainly is your opinion but again you seem to lack basic civics understanding, how many votes does it take in the Senate to create cloture? I guess it is too much to ask some people to educate themselves on civics

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The only opinion in that post was using the word "exploded" regarding the deficit. The deficit is growing bigly under Trump. That's not an opinion. Trump, having 2 years with a R congress, has greatly increased the deficit. That's a fact, not up for debate.

Conservative said:

Wow, Obama deficits down, what would the debt be had he not reduced deficits and what exactly did he do to do that? What increased spending? You have yet to post the increased spending line items that "skyrocketed" the deficit, why is that?

Do you know what debt service is? Do you think four interest rate hikes in less than 2 years has any impact? Is that Trump's fault?

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Why the denial? It certainly isn't just a river.

Under Trump, deficits are skyrocketing, and the latter part of Obama's presidency they shrunk. Amazing to see all the Trumpsplaining to defend Trump, yet Obama inheriting a major recession doesn't get the same courtesy. No surprise there at all!

I'm so sorry you don't like facts, but that doesn't change them. They'e still facts, regardless of your desire for them not to be!

party free said:

The only opinion in that post was using the word "exploded" regarding the deficit. The deficit is growing bigly under Trump. That's not an opinion. Trump, having 2 years with a R congress, has greatly increased the deficit. That's a fact, not up for debate.

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There is quite a difference between growing under and causing by, I am waiting for you to post the line items that caused the deficits to "explode" and tie it to Trump and the Republican Congress

Saying the same thing over and over again may make you feel better but it doesn't change the fact that it isn't true. the deficit was up 17% in 2018 the first year of the Trump Administration and there was no Trump budget approved therefore how does a President increase the deficit without spending authority?

party free said:

Why the denial? It certainly isn't just a river.

Under Trump, deficits are skyrocketing, and the latter part of Obama's presidency they shrunk. Amazing to see all the Trumpsplaining to defend Trump, yet Obama inheriting a major recession doesn't get the same courtesy. No surprise there at all!

I'm so sorry you don't like facts, but that doesn't change them. They'e still facts, regardless of your desire for them not to be!

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Again, waiting for what caused those skyrocketing deficits, UP 17% in 2018. You keep focusing on deficit reduction and ignoring that 9.3 trillion was added to the debt. Why are you celebrating a reduction in the deficits since we pay debt service and not deficit service. Imagine what the 9.3 trillion deficits would have been had there not been sequester and a Republican Congress elected in 2014.

I love facts, you have provided NONE with context

Conservative said:

There is quite a difference between growing under and causing by, I am waiting for you to post the line items that caused the deficits to "explode" and tie it to Trump and the Republican Congress

Saying the same thing over and over again may make you feel better but it doesn't change the fact that it isn't true. the deficit was up 17% in 2018 the first year of the Trump Administration and there was no Trump budget approved therefore how does a President increase the deficit without spending authority?

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Well this is weird, because you want Obama held accountable for the recession numbers during his first year and don't want those assigned to Bush. But now Trump doesn't get credit for the deficit numbers during his first year.

We get it. Two different standards. SOP for conservatism. Sad.

Conservative said:

Again, waiting for what caused those skyrocketing deficits, UP 17% in 2018. You keep focusing on deficit reduction and ignoring that 9.3 trillion was added to the debt. Why are you celebrating a reduction in the deficits since we pay debt service and not deficit service. Imagine what the 9.3 trillion deficits would have been had there not been sequester and a Republican Congress elected in 2014.

I love facts, you have provided NONE with context

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The only thing I have provided is facts, with no spin, unlike your spin and spin and spin. We need O'Reilly back to teach people how to talk about facts without the spin! You're putting on a masterclass right now!

Rs LOVE deficit spending, but have rally after rally after rally when a D inherits the second worst economic downswing in US history and has barely had time to try to do anything about it.

I'm still waiting for the dates and times of the tea party rallies for the MASSIVE 2018 US deficit, and the projected EVEN BIGGER 2019 deficit that looks like it's going to approach a TRILLION dollars.

Where can I protest? I'd love to rust off my minuteman attire, grab my bell, and alert the local townsfolk at a tea party rally that we are spending our country into oblivion right now.

party free said:

The only thing I have provided is facts, with no spin, unlike your spin and spin and spin. We need O'Reilly back to teach people how to talk about facts without the spin! You're putting on a masterclass right now!

Rs LOVE deficit spending, but have rally after rally after rally when a D inherits the second worst economic downswing in US history and has barely had time to try to do anything about it.

I'm still waiting for the dates and times of the tea party rallies for the MASSIVE 2018 US deficit, and the projected EVEN BIGGER 2019 deficit that looks like it's going to approach a TRILLION dollars.

Where can I protest? I'd love to rust off my minuteman attire, grab my bell, and alert the local townsfolk at a tea party rally that we are spending our country into oblivion right now.

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No, you provided the fact that the deficit is going up then an OPINION that spending caused that increase and that was due to the Republicans and Trump. The deficit is going up but you refuse to research why and want to blame the Republicans.

party free said:

Well this is weird, because you want Obama held accountable for the recession numbers during his first year and don't want those assigned to Bush. But now Trump doesn't get credit for the deficit numbers during his first year.

We get it. Two different standards. SOP for conservatism. Sad.

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No, I want Obama accountable for the worst recovery in U.S. history and a failed stimulus along with economic policies that generated that recovery. The first year he had a Democratic Congress and NO budget along with inheriting what brought us out of Recession, TARP

Nothing conservative about you as you are incapable of actually reviewing and researching before you post

party free said:

The only thing I have provided is facts, with no spin, unlike your spin and spin and spin. We need O'Reilly back to teach people how to talk about facts without the spin! You're putting on a masterclass right now!

Rs LOVE deficit spending, but have rally after rally after rally when a D inherits the second worst economic downswing in US history and has barely had time to try to do anything about it.

I'm still waiting for the dates and times of the tea party rallies for the MASSIVE 2018 US deficit, and the projected EVEN BIGGER 2019 deficit that looks like it's going to approach a TRILLION dollars.

Where can I protest? I'd love to rust off my minuteman attire, grab my bell, and alert the local townsfolk at a tea party rally that we are spending our country into oblivion right now.

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FOX News will let you know. They'll provide free advertising for the events, along with keynote speakers.

Conservative said:

No, you provided the fact that the deficit is going up then an OPINION that spending caused that increase and that was due to the Republicans and Trump. The deficit is going up but you refuse to research why and want to blame the Republicans.

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No, I provided the facts that Trump and the GOP congress have not only increased spending, but also cut income. Facts.

And why was Obama to blame for the economic numbers between November 2008 and January 2010?

Conservative said:

No, I want Obama accountable for the worst recovery in U.S. history and a failed stimulus along with economic policies that generated that recovery. The first year he had a Democratic Congress and NO budget along with inheriting what brought us out of Recession, TARP

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How can you call it the worst when we've maintained it for years now? The recession was the second worst US economic downturn...2nd only to the Great Depression. And not only did we recover from the Great Recession, but we've maintained that recovery for almost 10 years. To call that "the worst" is super partisan.

Nothing conservative about you as you are incapable of actually reviewing and researching before you post

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I never claimed to be conservative. I look at facts without spin or opinion. You only want us to consider a tiny part of the full set of facts. Sorry, not playing that game! Facts win!

So, who fact checked the WaPo fact checker?