['W: 998][W:371]Empire' star Jussie Smollett attacked in possible hate crime

VanceMack said:

PRECISELY. Thats what is so tragic and it extends across the political spectrum as well. The pundits on the left know they can say ANYTHING and the idiot leftists will swallow it and CLING to it, regurgitating it as fact even after it has been fully exposed as a lie. I cant help but wonder how pathetic you must be to be so easily led by a leftist machine that knows you are so ****ing gullible you will swallow anything they shove down your throat and beg for seconds.

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Nickyjo said:

Yes, he spoke about illegal Mexican rapists. Nice. But he also lied about Syrian refugee processing, spread false stats on black on white homicide, said there were Middle Easterners in the migrant caravan, then admitted he had no proof. The list of groups and institutions he has demonized also includes the media and our intelligence agencies. Face it, fear of “the other” in various forms has been his stock in trade from the Central Park Five to the Obama birther nonsense. He has suggested torture worse than waterboarding and killing the families of terrorists, a war crime. These are not leftist arguments, they are facts, easily available.

It’s pretty obvious that he has demonized more than illegals. But who am I to argue with success? He even insulted some of his own supporters with his “Fifth Avenue” comments, suggesting they were mindless goose-steppers.

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Nickyjo said:

Yes, he spoke about illegal Mexican rapists. Nice. But he also lied about Syrian refugee processing, spread false stats on black on white homicide, said there were Middle Easterners in the migrant caravan, then admitted he had no proof. The list of groups and institutions he has demonized also includes the media and our intelligence agencies. Face it, fear of “the other” in various forms has been his stock in trade from the Central Park Five to the Obama birther nonsense. He has suggested torture worse than waterboarding and killing the families of terrorists, a war crime. These are not leftist arguments, they are facts, easily available.

It’s pretty obvious that he has demonized more than illegals. But who am I to argue with success? He even insulted some of his own supporters with his “Fifth Avenue” comments, suggesting they were mindless goose-steppers.

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VanCleef said:

If this is true, he should be punished severely as this really hurts people who actually are effected by real hate crimes.

And as we all know hate crimes have been rising every year since 2016 sharply. We had 7,000+ last year. It's getting bad.

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VanceMack said:

You think so? The Virginia governor is still in office...and no one is even talking about him. The Lt Governor...still in office and those rape charges? Just so much meh...yesterdays news. Leftists still fete the "VietNam era Native American hero" that was stared down by an evil teenager. Christine Ford story was so completely ridiculous and implausible...yet she is still a darling of the left, even after several of the other Kavanaugh accusers were PROVED to be flat out liars.

Smollet will likely have this all explained away as an effort to bring forth a much needed dialogue on the racism and bigotry caused by Donald Trump...cuz it was REALLY Trumps fault. And as ridiculous as it sounds, you and I BOTH know there people that are stupid enough to buy into it and champion it.

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apdst said:

reported hate crimes.

Maybe this hysteria is why?

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apdst said:

Are you really trying call Consrvatives nazis in a thread that's subject has turned into a complete goat ****

Basically you're saying, "Ok, this is bull****, but you're still all racists". :lamo

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SLC said:

And some are.

My Hispanic office manager's teenage daughter was raped and beaten by their landscaper who was an illegal from Mexico. After he did it he fled back to Mexico and has not been caught to date. In Texas we had 2,342 sexual assault convictions; between 1,375 sexual offense from 6-2011 and 1-2019 committed by illegal aliens. So yes they do have rapists illegally entering the country.

TxDPS - Texas Criminal Alien Arrest Data

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AlbqOwl said:

For sure. Maybe Smollet was outed to take the heat off of the Virginia governor and his administration or possibly McCabe and company if the rabbit hole might go deeper than we know so far? I think 'wag the dog' tactics are still alive and well so it wouldn't surprise me if that was the case. But admittedly the thought just crossed my mind and is no more than an provoked guess/conspiracy theory at this time.

You can be sure as much money as could be gathered up, both domestic and from abroad would be buying all sorts of pressure and accusations and coercion against the Virginia administration if it was Republican instead of Democrat. Republicans tend to be much less persistent in these things than leftists are.

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VanCleef said:

If this is true, he should be punished severely as this really hurts people who actually are effected by real hate crimes.

And as we all know hate crimes have been rising every year since 2016 sharply. We had 7,000+ last year. It's getting bad.

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There were 7,106 single-bias incidents involving 8,493 victims, the FBI reported on Tuesday.

Almost 60% of victims were targeted because of bias against race, ethnicity or ancestry bias. A fifth were targeted because of the offenders’ religious bias and 15.8% were victimized because of the offenders’ sexual-orientation bias. Just under 2% of victims documented in the report were targeted because of a disability or a bias against gender identity.

The hate crimes ranged from murder to vandalism and also included rape, robbery and assault.

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Atomic Kid said:

Except you did NOT frame your post in terms of Smollett having been a victim of an attack by people of his own race. Instead you immediately accused Smollett of having conspired with them in staging a hoax. Why? Because he's black too. So in your eyes Smollett is guilty by association. So allow me to return the favor.

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nota bene said:

I've read that Smollett isn't on set as much, which is probably a blessing for him as well as everybody else. As you say, awkward for all.

Surely the manager was interviewed immediately?

Smollett was supposedly angry that a letter he had received the week prior to the purported attack hadn't received as much attention as he'd thought it should. (There was a white powder in the envelope that turned out to be aspirin?) I've read somewhere that Smollett sent the letter to himself? What do you know about this?

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noonereal said:

There has not been so much as one leak so far, not sure why that would change....

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SLC said:

Well in all fairness the CNN photographer arrived on time at 5:00 am set up a camera and tripod at Stone's house just 60 minutes before the 6:00 am raid at Stone's house. No leak my A**. :lol:

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maxparrish said:

'Really bad' is an overstatement. Here are the numbers:



However, with over 16,000 reporting jurisdictions, that is only 1/2 incident per jurisdiction per year. Equally illuminating is the fact that 1.2 million violent, and 7.9 million property crimes occur per year, so even if we assume that all hate crimes are violent (which some aren't) that still only amounts to .0059th of all violent crime per year. A drop in the proverbial bucket.

As to this "drop" increasing "really bad", as new reports noted the number of jurisdictions reporting per year has also increased - suggesting that an assertion of a trend is problematical.

Finally, note that only 15 percent of that "drop" of hate crime was based on sexual orientation (supposedly).

So in a nation of 330 million and 9.1 million crimes per year, I think the "micro-drops" of a few hate crimes aren't worth your watery eyes, let alone a drop of your tears.

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Hate crime reports increased 17 percent last year from 2016, the F.B.I. said on Tuesday, rising for the third consecutive year as heated racial rhetoric and actions have come to dominate the news.

Of the more than 7,100 hate crimes reported last year, nearly three out of five were motivated by race and ethnicity, according to the annual report. Religion and sexual orientation were the other two primary motivators.

In addition to the tense political climate, the increase also points to a growing awareness among various law enforcement agencies of the importance of identifying and reporting hate crimes to the F.B.I.

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Acadia said:

Trump should. Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize for Presidenting while black.

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Acadia said:

I think authorities are looking into whether Smollett planned the entire thing, including the letter, and that's what I believe. I also wonder if his motive was more than getting attention and casting Trump and his supporters as evil racists and homophobes. I wonder if Smollett wanted to help out his political friends who he knew were trying to pass anti-lynching legislation. The leitmotif of lynching from the letter to the "attack" to the verbiage of Kamala Harris and Cory Booker is just to...twee.

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truthatallcost said:

Yes, Smollett is guilty. He is now trying to dodge a police request for a second interview, knowing he'll probably be arrested.

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Common Sense 1 said:

'Empire' Actor Jussie Smollett Pleaded Guilty to DUI, Providing False Information to Law Enforcement in 2007

Smollett, now 36, was sentenced to two years probation and a choice of a fine or jail in the 2007 case, an LA City Attorney's spokesman told NBC News.

As the police investigation into the alleged attack against "Empire" actor Jussie Smollett continues, it was revealed Tuesday that in 2007 Smollett pleaded no contest to DUI, driving without a license and providing false information to law enforcement, the L.A. City Attorney's office confirmed to NBC News.

Smollett, now 36, was sentenced to two years probation and a choice of a fine or jail in the 2007 case, an L.A. City Attorney's spokesman told NBC News.

The case is coming to light as Chicago police investigate whether Smollett made up a story about being the victim of a racially, motivated hate crime. Chicago police have requested LAPD provide them information about the 2007 arrest, according to multiple law enforcement sources familiar the investigation.

Chicago police officials say they have shifted their focus from a hate crime investigation to one of filing a false report.

'Empire' Actor Jussie Smollett Pleaded Guilty to DUI, Providing False Information to Law Enforcement in 2007 - NBC Chicago

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Barnacle said:

... and I would like to know why the Cook County State's Attorney Kim Foxx has recused herself from the investigation ... :shock:

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Roadvirus said:

He's dodging for sure because he knows he's been busted. He can't answer any of their questions with a lie because that'll make things 100x worse for himself. And he can't tell the truth either, because it'll basically be like a confession.

Essentially, he's ****ed no matter what.

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