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['W: 998][W:371]Empire' star Jussie Smollett attacked in possible hate crime

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Re: Empire' star Jussie Smollett attacked in possible hate crime

The radical left and their operatives, the media, is used to playing the race/homophobic card and the rest of us sitting over here, need to just shut up about it.

I had a strong feeling that once investigated, Smollett's story wouldn't hold up. Along with millions who wanted to scream, "Bullchit!", I held my tongue. Not so much now...:lol:
 
At this point Trump doesn't need to run another play. Just get into victory formation and run the clock out.
 
They are trying so hard to take down Trump and now he is gonna win the Nobel peace prize.

Trump should. Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize for Presidenting while black.
 
At this point Trump doesn't need to run another play. Just get into victory formation and run the clock out.

Keep the economy going, jobs, wages and a strong stock market, make good on his wall promise, fix immigration loopholes and further work towards peace on the Korean peninsula and he'll be good to go.
 
Re: Empire' star Jussie Smollett attacked in possible hate crime

So Smollett is currently filming? That's gotta be awk.

Say, what about his manager who said he was on the phone with Jussie and heard the "MAGA" stuff while Jussie was being attacked? I he going to be questioned?

I've read that Smollett isn't on set as much, which is probably a blessing for him as well as everybody else. As you say, awkward for all.

Surely the manager was interviewed immediately?

Smollett was supposedly angry that a letter he had received the week prior to the purported attack hadn't received as much attention as he'd thought it should. (There was a white powder in the envelope that turned out to be aspirin?) I've read somewhere that Smollett sent the letter to himself? What do you know about this?
 
Re: Empire' star Jussie Smollett attacked in possible hate crime

You just perpetrated another white supremacist myth that non-white minorities, especially African Americans are far more crime prone. Bureau of Justice Statistics show that the vast majority of most crimes are committed by a person of the same race as the victim.
Yes Blacks are far more crime prone.
White supremacists' favorite myths about black crime rates take another hit from BJS study | Southern Poverty Law Center

"White supremacists' favorite myths about black crime rates take another hit from BJS study"

The Justice Department’s statistics-crunching arm just blew up a whole stack of white-supremacist myths about the nature of interracial crime and violence committed by minorities.

In a report released Thursday titled Race and Hispanic Origin of Victims and Offenders, 2012-2015, the DOJ’s Bureau of Justice Statistics found that a majority of most violent crimes are committed by people who are the same race as their victims. Indeed, the rate of white-on-white violent crime, it found, is about four times the rate of black-on-white crime.

White supremacists frequently like to manipulate crime statistics in order to claim that nonwhite minorities, particularly African-Americans, are far more crime-prone and the source of most violent crime against whites. Indeed, it is a core belief that this is the case, and many white nationalist ideologues — including politician and pundit Patrick Buchanan, Jared Taylor of American Renaissance, and the Council of Conservative Citizens — all have made considerable hay out of proffering “studies” laden with risibly bad statistics and other evidence to make their case.

The BJS study demonstrates plainly that this is simply not the case. Some 57 percent of crimes involving white victims were committed by white perpetrators, while only 15 percent were committed by blacks, and 11 percent by Hispanics. Black crime victims fell along similar racial lines, with 63 percent of the crimes committed by black perpetrators, while 11 percent were committed by whites, and 6.6 percent by Hispanics.

Overall, the BJS reported, “the percentage of intraracial [that is, same-race] victimization was higher than the percentage of interracial victimization for all types of violent crime except robbery.”

Moreover, it explained, “the rate of white-on-white violent crime (12.0 per 1,000) was about four times higher than black-on-white violent crime (3.1 per 1,000). The rate of black-on-black crime (16.5 per 1,000) was more than five times higher than white-on-black violent crime (2.8 per 1,000). The rate of Hispanic-on-Hispanic crime (8.3 per 1,000) was about double the rate of white-on-Hispanic (4.1 per 1,000) and black-on-Hispanic (4.2 per 1,000) violent crime.”

This is consistent with previously collected data, including a National Crime Victim Survey in 2000 that showed that 73 percent of white violent crime victims were attacked by whites, and 80 percent of black victims were targeted by blacks. This pattern is even clearer in the category of murder.

That hasn’t chastened the people promulgating the distorted statistics. Buchanan, citing Taylor’s fake statistics in 2007, wrote: “The real repository of racism in America — manifest in violent interracial assault, rape and murder — is to be found not in the white community, but the African-American community.”

Nor have the smears faded at all: In 2016, then-candidate Donald Trump retweeted a graphic that originated on a neo-Nazi website trotting out statistics mainly lifted from Taylor and the CofCC.

The false beliefs that arise from these smears have consequences, too: Dylann Roof, the domestic terrorist who killed nine members of a Charleston church’s black congregation in June 2015, shouted during the rampage at his victims his belief that they were “killing us.” In his manifesto, he specifically cited the CofCC’s website and Taylor’s smear pamphlet as the source of his information.
:lamo
None of that has a damn thing to do with the fact you were replying to.
And it is even more funny as it dispels no held myth. Who the crime was committed against has no relevance to the fact that Blacks commit more crimes than other races.
 
Trump should. Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize for Presidenting while black.

It wasn't even awarded for anything he did! The nominations closed something like a week after he took office. He hadn't even warmed the seat in the oval office before he "earned" the prize. Then again, seeing as Yasser Arafat got one it really isn't all that much about "peace".
 
Re: Empire' star Jussie Smollett attacked in possible hate crime

Say, what about his manager who said he was on the phone with Jussie and heard the "MAGA" stuff while Jussie was being attacked? Is he going to be questioned?

I'm going to go with that's what the brothers shouted, so that his manager could testify to hearing it over the phone.


OM
 
I guess it's too much for us to ask that at least one of them could come back to the thread to admit that they were wrong.

Way too much to ask I suppose.

At least Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, however clueless she is in what the Constitution says or how the economy works or even the most fundamental concepts of math, was absolutely speaking for most--not all but most--of the left when she said: "It's more important to be morally right than factually correct."

That's why the left refused to denounce, at least without equivocation, BLM chanting "Pigs in a blanket, fry like bacon!" or one of their group sniping at police officers from a rooftop.

That's why they refuse to even consider the constitutional crisis when FBI and Justice officials like McCabe, Strzok, Ohr et al literally attempted a coup of the executive office of the Presidency.

That's why they won't condemn the Aurora shooter.

That's why they cling desperately to Christine Ford's uncorroborated story that was so shot full of holes it looked like a sieve and ignored information she raised by some accounts up to or more than $1 million in a gofundme as her reward for testifying against Kavanaugh--I am pretty sure the anonymous donors to that fund were mostly high level Democratic operatives who needed her to look like an innocent victim.

That's why they are so gleeful every time somebody associated in ANY way with the Trump campaign, however minor that role was, has his reputation destroyed, is bankrupted, and indicted by the Mueller investigation in most cases not for crimes the person committed, but for a crime or crimes they were able to manufacture in the process of the investigation.

The left excuses all these and many more such instances because after all the motives are right, even if the action or consequences weren't so noble. After all. . .

--White people enjoying white privilege deserve to be accused and threatened and attacked and murdered by black people.
--Kavanaugh deserves to have his reputation dragged through the mud because he is on the wrong side of their ideological perspective.
--Government officials are justified in taking down a lawfully elected and inaugurated President of the United States because after all he is a despicable person.
--Falsely accusing people who are Trump supporters, especially those wearing MAGA hats, harassing them in public, trashing their reputations in the media and social media, driving them out of restaurant, theaters, campuses etc. etc. etc. isn't so bad because after all such people are probably guilty of something. Declaring them all gullible, privileged, brainwashed, racist, sexist, Islamophobic, homophobic, low class, gun loving, Bible thumping, low information or uneducated deplorables is reasonable because anybody but leftists actually shouldn't be allowed to exist at all and certainly have no place in policy making or the national discussion.
--And anybody who signed onto President Trump's campaign no matter how small and inconsequential the role deserves to have the book thrown at them, deserves to be bankrupted, deserves to have his reputation smeared, deserves to go to prison, because only truly despicable people without honor would ever agree to serve or be named in association with that campaign, right?

The same of course is not true of anybody on their side because after all everybody knows:
--Leftists are nicer people
--Leftists are honest
--Leftists are ethical
--Leftists are without reproach
--Leftists are caring
--Leftists are righteous

for after all. . .

Leftists are morally right and justified regardless of the actual consequences of what they do, who they hurt and harm, or whether they can actually support their position or point of view with any facts other than those they cherry pick out of context.

She put all that in a nutshell when she said: "It is more important to be morally right than factually correct."
 
Re: Empire' star Jussie Smollett attacked in possible hate crime

I had a strong feeling that once investigated, Smollett's story wouldn't hold up. Along with millions who wanted to scream, "Bullchit!", I held my tongue. Not so much now...:lol:

I am so sick of the Trump resistor's narrative that just because we voted for or support this president's policies that we must all be Klan members... It's the same with the Mueller investigation. You have to be with them or they are against you. This is not liberalism we are having rammed down our throats.
 
Re: Empire' star Jussie Smollett attacked in possible hate crime

An update
Play stupid games win stupid prizes.....

Jussie Smollett’s ‘Empire’ scenes cut after attack controversy

Jussie Smollett's 'Empire' scenes cut after attack controversy

Scenes featuring Jussie Smollett on the hit TV show “Empire” have been drastically cut amid the whirlwind of controversy surrounding his alleged hate attack, according to a report Tuesday.

The actor, who plays gay singer-songwriter Jamal Lyon on the show, was supposed to have nine scenes and a big musical performance in the second-to-last episode of Season 5, production sources told TMZ.

But five scenes and the musical number have been axed.

Smollett’s character is also no longer the focus of his remaining four scenes, which will now feature an ensemble of characters.
 
Way too much to ask I suppose.

At least Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, however clueless she is in what the Constitution says or how the economy works or even the most fundamental concepts of math, was absolutely speaking for most--not all but most--of the left when she said: "It's more important to be morally right than factually correct."

That's why the left refused to denounce, at least without equivocation, BLM chanting "Pigs in a blanket, fry like bacon!" or one of their group sniping at police officers from a rooftop.

That's why they refuse to even consider the constitutional crisis when FBI and Justice officials like McCabe, Strzok, Ohr et al literally attempted a coup of the executive office of the Presidency.

That's why they won't condemn the Aurora shooter.

That's why they cling desperately to Christine Ford's uncorroborated story that was so shot full of holes it looked like a sieve and ignored information she raised by some accounts up to or more than $1 million in a gofundme as her reward for testifying against Kavanaugh--I am pretty sure the anonymous donors to that fund were mostly high level Democratic operatives who needed her to look like an innocent victim.

That's why they are so gleeful every time somebody associated in ANY way with the Trump campaign, however minor that role was, has his reputation destroyed, is bankrupted, and indicted by the Mueller investigation in most cases not for crimes the person committed, but for a crime or crimes they were able to manufacture in the process of the investigation.

The left excuses all these and many more such instances because after all the motives are right, even if the action or consequences weren't so noble. After all. . .

--White people enjoying white privilege deserve to be accused and threatened and attacked and murdered by black people.
--Kavanaugh deserves to have his reputation dragged through the mud because he is on the wrong side of their ideological perspective.
--Government officials are justified in taking down a lawfully elected and inaugurated President of the United States because after all he is a despicable person.
--Falsely accusing people who are Trump supporters, especially those wearing MAGA hats, harassing them in public, trashing their reputations in the media and social media, driving them out of restaurant, theaters, campuses etc. etc. etc. isn't so bad because after all such people are probably guilty of something. Declaring them all gullible, privileged, brainwashed, racist, sexist, Islamophobic, homophobic, low class, gun loving, Bible thumping, low information or uneducated deplorables is reasonable because anybody but leftists actually shouldn't be allowed to exist at all and certainly have no place in policy making or the national discussion.
--And anybody who signed onto President Trump's campaign no matter how small and inconsequential the role deserves to have the book thrown at them, deserves to be bankrupted, deserves to have his reputation smeared, deserves to go to prison, because only truly despicable people without honor would ever agree to serve or be named in association with that campaign, right?

The same of course is not true of anybody on their side because after all everybody knows:
--Leftists are nicer people
--Leftists are honest
--Leftists are ethical
--Leftists are without reproach
--Leftists are caring
--Leftists are righteous

for after all. . .

Leftists are morally right and justified regardless of the actual consequences of what they do, who they hurt and harm, or whether they can actually support their position or point of view with any facts other than those they cherry pick out of context.

She put all that in a nutshell when she said: "It is more important to be morally right than factually correct."

Such a damn good post!
Let me just add one thing. A poster on this thread, and even a handful from the left side of congress, during the Kavanaugh hearing, have schooled us on how we are to behave when a person of color, or a woman tells their story. We are to sit back, shut up and believe them because you know, well at least according to their mindless screed, minorities 'should be' a permanently, protected class. :screwy
 
Re: Empire' star Jussie Smollett attacked in possible hate crime

I've read that Smollett isn't on set as much, which is probably a blessing for him as well as everybody else. As you say, awkward for all.
They may need to write him off, the quality of the show will decline if everyone feels a bit awkward around him.
Surely the manager was interviewed immediately?
The manager will have to be subpoenaed, he won't go anywhere near Illinois, he's an accessory to the hoax.
Smollett was supposedly angry that a letter he had received the week prior to the purported attack hadn't received as much attention as he'd thought it should. (There was a white powder in the envelope that turned out to be aspirin?) I've read somewhere that Smollett sent the letter to himself? What do you know about this?
I read the Chicago police seized a bunch of magazines with pages torn out from the Nigerians' apartment, that they suspect these were used to compose the letters.
 
PJ Media wondering why MSM keeps falling for these hoaxes and identifies 3 sources; “magical thinking”, “confirmation bias” and plain stupidity:
Good Therapy defines magical thinking as "the belief that one’s own thoughts, wishes, or desires can influence the external world. It is common in very young children. A four-year-old child, for example, might believe that after wishing for a pony, one will appear at his or her house." Magical Thinking
MSM reporters really wish there was clear and conclusive evidence Trump’s supporters were actually racist, misogynistic homophobes, and such evidence appears in every story they report.
Another possible explanation for the media's gullibility would be confirmation bias, which is defined as "the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that confirms one's preexisting beliefs or hypotheses." The overwhelmingly liberal media tend to embrace stories that confirm their own biases and ignore those that don't.
MSM believes that in “MAGA country” there are hordes of racist homophobes and that Smollet’s allegations proved this was true.
The elephant in the room for media malfeasance discussions is that many reporters are simply not smart. They fall for hoaxes easily. Over and over and over again. They are obviously not well read. That this is combined with a completely unwarranted arrogance compounds the problem. Why Does the MSM Keep Falling for Obvious Hoaxes?
The evident intellectual deficit in MSM is apparent to me in the poor vocabulary and inappropriate language in reporting, the lack of nuance, it is obvious in their writing and broadcasts. I think this is compounded by the lack of consideration for any perspective that contradicts their own view.

Magical thinking, confirmation bias and plain stupidity doom MSM, they hire and promote victims of all three of these and appeal to an audience that suffers from them as well.
 
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Re: Empire' star Jussie Smollett attacked in possible hate crime

The only people that trump has spoken out against is illegal immigrants, and he is 100% right on it.
we have laws in this country that say unless you have permission you are not allowed to be here.

There is nothing racist against speaking out against people who consistently break our laws on purpose.

as for black he has done more for black americans than the past 4 presidents except for maybe reagan.
pointing out black on black crime is not racist.

you people seriously need to look up the definition of words because you really have no friggen clue what they mean.
why? because you can't demonize people when they know what words mean. You can only demonize low information
people that have no clue what is going on. that is why your crap never works on educated people because no one
that is educated falls for the leftist package of canned arguments.

Yes, he spoke about illegal Mexican rapists. Nice. But he also lied about Syrian refugee processing, spread false stats on black on white homicide, said there were Middle Easterners in the migrant caravan, then admitted he had no proof. The list of groups and institutions he has demonized also includes the media and our intelligence agencies. Face it, fear of “the other” in various forms has been his stock in trade from the Central Park Five to the Obama birther nonsense. He has suggested torture worse than waterboarding and killing the families of terrorists, a war crime. These are not leftist arguments, they are facts, easily available.

It’s pretty obvious that he has demonized more than illegals. But who am I to argue with success? He even insulted some of his own supporters with his “Fifth Avenue” comments, suggesting they were mindless goose-steppers.
 
Re: Empire' star Jussie Smollett attacked in possible hate crime

From TMZ:

Jussie Smollett's "Empire" screen time is getting slashed in the wake of a growing sentiment that he staged the so-called "attack."

Production sources tell TMZ ... Jussie was supposed to have 9 scenes and a big musical number in the second to the last episode -- which is being shot now -- but, 5 of his scenes have been cut, and his musical number has been 86'd.

As for the remaining 4 scenes ... we're told he's no longer the focus. The scene features an ensemble, meaning he's flanked by a number of cast members. Jussie Smollett's 'Empire' Role Slashed in Wake Of 'Attack' Scandal | TMZ.com
The way things are going, he'll probably get his pink slip by Friday.
 
Just like "hands up, don't shoot". They still believe that crap.

PRECISELY. Thats what is so tragic and it extends across the political spectrum as well. The pundits on the left know they can say ANYTHING and the idiot leftists will swallow it and CLING to it, regurgitating it as fact even after it has been fully exposed as a lie. I cant help but wonder how pathetic you must be to be so easily led by a leftist machine that knows you are so ****ing gullible you will swallow anything they shove down your throat and beg for seconds.
 
Re: Empire' star Jussie Smollett attacked in possible hate crime

The way things are going, he'll probably get his pink slip by Friday.

And this is the least of his worries if a grand jury is convened. If this was a hoax, and it surely appears now that it was, what an obscene waste of police resources in a city that has real and constant problems.
 
Re: Empire' star Jussie Smollett attacked in possible hate crime

The way things are going, he'll probably get his pink slip by Friday.
You think so? The Virginia governor is still in office...and no one is even talking about him. The Lt Governor...still in office and those rape charges? Just so much meh...yesterdays news. Leftists still fete the "VietNam era Native American hero" that was stared down by an evil teenager. Christine Ford story was so completely ridiculous and implausible...yet she is still a darling of the left, even after several of the other Kavanaugh accusers were PROVED to be flat out liars.

Smollet will likely have this all explained away as an effort to bring forth a much needed dialogue on the racism and bigotry caused by Donald Trump...cuz it was REALLY Trumps fault. And as ridiculous as it sounds, you and I BOTH know there people that are stupid enough to buy into it and champion it.
 
Re: Empire' star Jussie Smollett attacked in possible hate crime

Oh for Christ's sake. Don't be ridiculous. Trump isn't the end all or be all of everything. But one thing for sure though is that the number of hate crimes has increased steadily since he ran for and took office.

Hate Crimes Increase for the Third Consecutive Year, F.B.I. Reports - The New York Times

"Hate Crimes Increase for the Third Consecutive Year, F.B.I. Reports
By John Eligon
Nov. 13, 2018
The reason hate crimes are on the rise is that more agencies are beginning to report them. Also the Anti Defamation League reported dozens of hate crimes. Remember that American-Jewish Kid in Israel ,Michael Ron David Kadar,that was calling in at least dozens of bomb threats ,Israeli police say more than 2000, and other threats into Jewish facilities in the United States. So we likely have the same number of hate crimes but increased reporting.

Israel indicts US teen Michael Ron David Kadar for Jewish center bomb threats - CBS News
 
Re: Empire' star Jussie Smollett attacked in possible hate crime

I've read that Smollett isn't on set as much, which is probably a blessing for him as well as everybody else. As you say, awkward for all.

Surely the manager was interviewed immediately?

Smollett was supposedly angry that a letter he had received the week prior to the purported attack hadn't received as much attention as he'd thought it should. (There was a white powder in the envelope that turned out to be aspirin?) I've read somewhere that Smollett sent the letter to himself? What do you know about this?
The letter had amazing similarities to his staged attack. The return address was MAGA Country and there was a stick figure that had a noose around its neck and the letter specifically threatened Somllett by name. The letter had magazine letters spelling out the threat. The police took magazines with missing pages from the Nigerian brothers home as evidence. I suppose they will look at those issues of intact magazines to see if the missing pages had letters that were the same as those used in the letter. I suppose the brothers sent the letter at the direction of Somllett.
 
Re: Empire' star Jussie Smollett attacked in possible hate crime

The way things are going, he'll probably get his pink slip by Friday.
I bet their next episode will have huge increase in the ratings. :lol:
 
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