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Stone indicted

Athanasius68 said:
We are ALL privy to parts of his investigatipns. His indictments and prosecutions are not secret. We can see what he is doing. He is not charging anyone with collusion type crimes.
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Why would Mueller lead with his bombshell when he can keep working these crooks to "rat" on Trump. That is how you bust conspiracies. From the bottom up.
 
iguanaman said:
Why would Mueller lead with his bombshell when he can keep working these crooks to "rat" on Trump. That is how you bust conspiracies. From the bottom up.
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Ok-- but in order to bust a conspiracy, one has to prove a conspiracy. None of these guys are being charged for their role in a conspiracy.
 
What if...? said:
I'm still gonna maim or kill anybody I catch raping or molesting somebody.

I will not presume innocence over the evidence of my eyes.

I don't recognize force monopolys.
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That's nice. :roll:And what have YOUR EYES seen about Stone? Not the FBI but YOU personally.
 
iguanaman said:
There is nothing but circumstantial evidence of collusion and now Mueller is bringing the evidence needed to prove it. Massive conspiracies like this require time to unravel.



Not too shabby for a "Witchhunt" is it? :lol:

https://www.businessinsider.com/who-has-been-charged-in-russia-investigation-mueller-trump-2017-12
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30 something million dollars and some CHARGES against Russians that will never see an American courtroom and some convictions for tax evasion and taxi medallions and perjury that has NOTHING to do with Trump does seem pretty shabby. Whitewater at least got a sitting governor of Arkansas and 14 other people for 40 crimes at least.
 
Hatuey said:
I love it.
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Sent from Trump Plaza's basement using Putin's MacBook.
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Dude's office is practically wall-to-wall with old Nixon posters. Pretty much the only thing anyone would need to know to understand his character.
 
uptower said:
Look Stone promised he won't lie against Trump. That means whatever he tells us when he sings like a Canary will be the truth right? I'm cool with that. As with everything in this case it probably won't be the 'single smoking gun' Mueller needs, but nor will it be all rosy for the president.
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I have no problem with Stone telling the truth. I doubt it will satisfy Mueller and Weisman.
 
I can't get involved with the "one liner drama spins".... The fact is there is deep reasons why Stone was indicted... Not to see it in the broader sense for what it is and why it took place is to miss the whole spectrum of the Mueller Investigations. There is a constructive reason no names were used, because the investigation has the data to address the "no named person(s) under their own indictments....

Stone is already in the terrified mode, if anyone watched the contortions of his face when he spoke and the closed eye lying he was doing on the Como segment.

We've seen these types before, back during the days of Jim Crow... he thinks that system is still in place to get him off the hook(s).... but he is to find out how wrong he is... in his assumptions.
 
Slyfox696 said:
Mach did, so the rest of your post is false.
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He didnt. He tried, but he failed. There was no coordination, no cooperation, no collusion no conspiracy between the Trump camp and Wikileaks. None. But you will argue to your last breath that the opposite is true because you are incapable of ever admitting you were wrong.
 
Xelor said:
On page nine of the indictment there's an entreaty to switch to a secure line to continue a conversation.

WTH? What private citizens who have no government role needs, has or uses a secure line? Do you have a secure line? I don't. I haven't ever needed one.

You know why? Because I don't do things that are illegal!!! Because to discuss the most confidential matters that pertained to myself, my family, my firm and my clients, simply closing the door to my office is more than enough security. I haven't ever had anything to discuss that warranted my having to say it not only behind a closed door, but also on a secure telephone line.
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There are perfectly legitimate reasons to have secure communications, business reasons if nothing else.
 
uptower said:
What I want is irrelevant.

Let's look at what actually is going to happen. He is not going to lie. He won't lie for Trump and he won't lie against him. He has already been caught lying once and has been indicted for it. The conditions of him not having a longer sentence will be like Cohen to tell the truth from now on. This is what happens when you get busted for perjury.

That may very well be good for Trump or it could turn out to be devastating, for that as usual we get to wait and see.
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I suspect it will be good for Trump.
 
Athanasius68 said:
We are ALL privy to parts of his investigatipns. His indictments and prosecutions are not secret. We can see what he is doing. He is not charging anyone with collusion type crimes.
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Because he's not done with it. I can see the circle you'd prefer to drive in because it helps your denial but go right ahead. Stay blind. Ieep pushing that it's all a big nothinburger witchhunt. You won't be blind-sided at all.
 
Athanasius68 said:
He hasnt. That's the point.
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Because he isn't done with his investigation. And there's a ****-ton of guilty and arrested and indicted just from the asshats that have been trying to block the investigation with lies. I guess you can go with believing that all these folks have been lying for not reason at all and there is nothing to cover up. I'll take a more logically reasonable approach.
 
athanasius68 said:
the stone indictment is clear: It claims somebody in the trump campaign asked stone to find out whether wikileaks was planning any more releases. That conversation wouldn't need to happen if the campaign was already colluding on the releases.
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bingo!
 
poweRob said:
Because he's not done with it. I can see the circle you'd prefer to drive in because it helps your denial but go right ahead. Stay blind. Ieep pushing that it's all a big nothinburger witchhunt. You won't be blind-sided at all.
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He is not going back and re-indicting PapaD or Flynn or Cohen for their role in a conspiracy. They are done.
 
Athanasius68 said:
He is not going back and re-indicting PapaD or Flynn or Cohen for their role in a conspiracy. They are done.
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You look really dumb pretending you know what Mueller knows and is going to do.
 
poweRob said:
Because he isn't done with his investigation. And there's a ****-ton of guilty and arrested and indicted just from the asshats that have been trying to block the investigation with lies. I guess you can go with believing that all these folks have been lying for not reason at all and there is nothing to cover up. I'll take a more logically reasonable approach.
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A more reasonable approach would be CHARGING these people with whatever crimes you think their lies were intended to cover up.
 
SLC said:
Please do!
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Already have. Check sig. Although when Mueller finds criminal conspiracy I'm sure you'll play semantics games and say, "Well that isn't collusion!"

Not expecting any honesty or integrity to ever come from you... but I do expect you to provide me with some laughs.
 
Athanasius68 said:
A more reasonable approach would be CHARGING these people with whatever crimes you think their lies were intended to cover up.
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Patience dear. The horse goes BEFORE the cart. Not after.
 
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