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Trump bluffed hard on his State of the Union, and Pelosi called it

Anthony60 said:
Now Pelosi has set the precedent. You oppose the President? Don't agree with his policies? Perfectly okay for the Speaker to not invite him to the House chambers. And, it's okay to lie about why you are doing it. Don't complain when the tables are turned.
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Spot on
 
Anthony60 said:
Now Pelosi has set the precedent. You oppose the President? Don't agree with his policies? Perfectly okay for the Speaker to not invite him to the House chambers. And, it's okay to lie about why you are doing it. Don't complain when the tables are turned.
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Please do share with us what this lie is, with a link. Thank you.
 
ludin said:
no they don't know how votes work in congress and no they 100% missed civics classes that is proven fact.
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Its frightening how many blathering posts are on this forum about why didnt Trump build it before this congress. These people need to stop watching CNN.
 
AlphaOmega said:
Its frightening how many blathering posts are on this forum about why didnt Trump build it before this congress. These people need to stop watching CNN.
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TDS prevents them from dealing with facts.
 
tres borrachos said:
Please do share with us what this lie is, with a link. Thank you.
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She cited security as a risk. which is complete nonsense. that is the lie.
the DC police are still working and the SS is more than capable of protecting the president inside of the House.

so yea she lied. not that you care and not that you would acknowledge it.
even the SS came out and said that security isn't an issue.
 
AlphaOmega said:
Good lord do you lefties know how votes work in our congress? Please go research it, then read your post, then come back and correct it according to fact. You guys should have paid attention during civics 101.
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So another ad hominem, misrepresentation, deflection and non response.

Trump had his chance. He should have gotten all the republicans in the house and senate on board with his wall and paid for it before the dims took the house.

I have no sympathy for republicans in this case.
 
ludin said:
She cited security as a risk. which is complete nonsense. that is the lie.
the DC police are still working and the SS is more than capable of protecting the president inside of the House.

so yea she lied. not that you care and not that you would acknowledge it.
even the SS came out and said that security isn't an issue.
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She asked him to postpone it until after the shutdown was ended.

Regarding security - are you in charge of security on Capital Hill? I didn't know that. So you know all about it. Tell us more.
 
ludin said:
look up a thing called a filibuster and get back to us.
you guys don't seem to understand how government works.
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Aww, boohoo. Your POTUS couldn't drum up a few votes from centrist/rightist dems, which exist for sure.

YOU guys seem to think none of us are paying attention.

2 years. Full control.

This is a FAILURE to lead.
 
JacksinPA said:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...liver-his-state-union/?utm_term=.c932c471c446

President Trump is no stranger to bluffing, but rarely has he had his bluff called so hard and fast as he did by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) on Wednesday.

It was unambiguous: Trump said he was coming, and he was challenging Pelosi to stop him. So she stopped him. And he backed down almost immediately.
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Pelosi has more spine than Trump. The House is her House & anyone who wants to get inside has to play by her rules. Trump will have to learn how the Government works.
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Trump made her go on record as being willing to put her petty partisan vindictiveness ahead of the good of the nation and you think she comes out as the winner. Trump demonstrated that he is the bigger person.

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Unitedwestand13 said:
And he really has no clue how to govern. Bush was able to work with Pelosi because he admitted that his party got whipped in the 2006 midterms.
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When you say work with its code for he caved to dems every demand and got nothing in return except had his name smeared.

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AlphaOmega said:
Spot on
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And she wants Trump to open the government, by signing some bloated spending bill, then they can talk about a wall, which she has said she will never give money for. Yes, that sounds like a good deal! I'm sure she will deal in good faith, LOL! She may not be competent to hold office.
 
tres borrachos said:
She asked him to postpone it until after the shutdown was ended.

Regarding security - are you in charge of security on Capital Hill? I didn't know that. So you know all about it. Tell us more.
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and as i expect the typical non-response from you that doesn't deal with anything posted.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...nd-security-and-secret-service-say-shes-wrong

Pelosi claims State of the Union could be postponed over security threats;
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., has proposed that President Trump postpone his Jan. 29 State of the Union address until after the partial government shutdown ends, arguing that a lack of funding for Homeland Security and U.S. Secret Service agents presents a serious security risk to the White House and Congress.

SO now that you have been proven wrong on that one.

On security. I don't have to be in charge of security. I will let the comments of the people that are in charge speak for themselves.

“The Department of Homeland Security and the US Secret Service are fully prepared to support and secure the State of the Union. We thank the Service for their mission focus and dedication and for all they do each day to secure our homeland,” Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen said in a statement released hours after Pelosi first pitched her proposal in a letter delivered to the White House.

so there you have it. not that you care and not that you will acknowledge that you are wrong.
 
Obscurity said:
Aww, boohoo. Your POTUS couldn't drum up a few votes from centrist/rightist dems, which exist for sure.

YOU guys seem to think none of us are paying attention.

2 years. Full control.

This is a FAILURE to lead.
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yes this is a failure to lead. schumer and the liberals should be ashamed that they fail to uphold their oath of office to secure the border.
you still didn't look up what a filibuster is.

please look filiibuster. having 51 votes in the senate is not full control. I suggest going and taking a government civics class so that you can understand
how our government system works. it will also teach you how bills are passed and the processes used in the senate.
 
Anthony60 said:
Do you remember her saying that they shouldn't have the SOTU because of security?
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Yes, and what is your experience with security that you can verify that was a lie? Are you in charge of security in the Capital?

She didn't want him to do it until the shutdown was over. That wasn't a lie.
 
trouble13 said:
Trump made her go on record as being willing to put her petty partisan vindictiveness ahead of the good of the nation and you think she comes out as the winner. Trump demonstrated that he is the bigger person.

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//// Trump demonstrated he is the bigger person. /////..... An ever widening ass means he is the 'larger' person, not the 'bigger' person.':lamo:lamo:lamo
 
tres borrachos said:
She asked him to postpone it until after the shutdown was ended.

Regarding security - are you in charge of security on Capital Hill? I didn't know that. So you know all about it. Tell us more.
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So, you are refusing to acknowledge that she did, in fact, cite security as a reason for postponing the SOTU?
 
ludin said:
and as i expect the typical non-response from you that doesn't deal with anything posted.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...nd-security-and-secret-service-say-shes-wrong

Pelosi claims State of the Union could be postponed over security threats;
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., has proposed that President Trump postpone his Jan. 29 State of the Union address until after the partial government shutdown ends, arguing that a lack of funding for Homeland Security and U.S. Secret Service agents presents a serious security risk to the White House and Congress.

SO now that you have been proven wrong on that one.

On security. I don't have to be in charge of security. I will let the comments of the people that are in charge speak for themselves.

“The Department of Homeland Security and the US Secret Service are fully prepared to support and secure the State of the Union. We thank the Service for their mission focus and dedication and for all they do each day to secure our homeland,” Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen said in a statement released hours after Pelosi first pitched her proposal in a letter delivered to the White House.

so there you have it. not that you care and not that you will acknowledge that you are wrong.
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Can you please work on your posts so they are coherent? Type like adults do. Capital letters, full sentences, coherent thoughts. Then your posts may be worth reading.

Regarding Nielsen's comments, she works for the administration. Are all Homeland Security Secretaries 100% honest and trustworthy, and we must believe every word they say?
 
tres borrachos said:
Yes, and what is your experience with security that you can verify that was a lie? Are you in charge of security in the Capital?

She didn't want him to do it until the shutdown was over. That wasn't a lie.
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Are you living under a rock? That is a bizarre question. You do not know that Homeland and the Secret Service immediately responded that security is NOT an issue.
 
tres borrachos said:
Can you please work on your posts so they are coherent? Type like adults do. Capital letters, full sentences, coherent thoughts. Then your posts may be worth reading.

Regarding Nielsen's comments, she works for the administration. Are all Homeland Security Secretaries 100% honest and trustworthy, and we must believe every word they say?
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So, you are going to assume that Homeland Security is lying about security, but Nancy Pelosi, who has nothing to do with security knows better, and is not lying when she contradicts them? Great line of reasoning there, Tres. You're barely making more sense than Pelosi, and that's a damn low bar.
 
Anthony60 said:
So, you are going to assume that Homeland Security is lying about security, but Nancy Pelosi, who has nothing to do with security knows better, and is not lying when she contradicts them? Great line of reasoning there, Tres. You're barely making more sense than Pelosi, and that's a damn low bar.
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So you believe that any Homeland Security Secretary, present or former, tells the truth at all times is what you're saying?
 
trouble13 said:
What did she get out of it?

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We shall see. I know this, if left up to the republicans, the government would stay closed and y'all would just keep blaming the dems for trump's shutdown.
 
Anthony60 said:
Are you living under a rock? That is a bizarre question. You do not know that Homeland and the Secret Service immediately responded that security is NOT an issue.
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No, I'm not living under a rock. Care to discuss this like an adult and not ask childish questions?

You believe we are to accept the words of Homeland Security Secretaries without any question. That's all I needed to know and you answered my question.
 
Obscurity said:
So another ad hominem, misrepresentation, deflection and non response.

Trump had his chance. He should have gotten all the republicans in the house and senate on board with his wall and paid for it before the dims took the house.

I have no sympathy for republicans in this case.
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good lord. Math class too?!
 
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