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Trump directed Michael Cohen to lie to Congress about Moscow project, BuzzFeed report says

armycowboy said:
Keep repeating what the CEC tells you if it helps you sleep at night.
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I guess keep believing these people are real journalists. Sucks to be you with the wool over your eyes.
 
Khalix said:
I think there was more than enough evidence to charge Clinton. However she had the FBI protecting her. Go figure

That’s not complaining but more stating a view.
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the FBI protecting her, my ass. Comey's reopening Hillary's email investigation was the final nail in her political coffin, and she lost the election because of it. Does that bother me? Not in the least. She was the other "asswipe" running for president.
 
Winston said:
I really doubt Trump supporters are going to give a ****. I know they want all this covered up and sabotaged in order to save face.
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I AM A TRUMP SUPPORTER - I CARE

I DO NOT WANT IT COVERED UP

IF HE IS GUILTY HE NEEDS TO BE REMOVED ASAP.


Ok with that out of the way. Is there any penalties for publishing and accusing the "PRESIDENT" (not Trump) under False pretense. or Will this be PAR for the Course as what goes around comes around.

IF TRUMP is guilty of a crime Charge him and get it over with so we as Country can move on to ACTUAL politics and things that matter. Lying about building Trump Tower is dumb.... But Lying is lying...more so instructing someone to lie.

BUT IF THERE IS NO PROOF AND ITS JUST Speculation we NEED to stop this Crap and hold people accountable for false accusation.
 
Exactice said:
I AM A TRUMP SUPPORTER - I CARE

I DO NOT WANT IT COVERED UP

IF HE IS GUILTY HE NEEDS TO BE REMOVED ASAP.


Ok with that out of the way. Is there any penalties for publishing and accusing the "PRESIDENT" (not Trump) under False pretense. or Will this be PAR for the Course as what goes around comes around.

IF TRUMP is guilty of a crime Charge him and get it over with so we as Country can move on to ACTUAL politics and things that matter. Lying about building Trump Tower is dumb.... But Lying is lying...more so instructing someone to lie.

BUT IF THERE IS NO PROOF AND ITS JUST Speculation we NEED to stop this Crap and hold people accountable for false accusation.
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Kudos to you for being principled. I agree, unwarranted accusations and baseless speculation is wrong.

I think this was leaked from SDNY. So, I'd have a hard time believing they made it up. But maybe?


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Exactice said:
I AM A TRUMP SUPPORTER - I CARE

I DO NOT WANT IT COVERED UP

IF HE IS GUILTY HE NEEDS TO BE REMOVED ASAP.


Ok with that out of the way. Is there any penalties for publishing and accusing the "PRESIDENT" (not Trump) under False pretense. or Will this be PAR for the Course as what goes around comes around.

IF TRUMP is guilty of a crime Charge him and get it over with so we as Country can move on to ACTUAL politics and things that matter. Lying about building Trump Tower is dumb.... But Lying is lying...more so instructing someone to lie.

BUT IF THERE IS NO PROOF AND ITS JUST Speculation we NEED to stop this Crap and hold people accountable for false accusation.
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I actually agree with a lot of this. I do have a question.....do all allegations need to be false? Is there room for investigation based on decent information?
 
Winston said:
Kudos to you for being principled. I agree, unwarranted accusations and baseless speculation is wrong.

I think this was leaked from SDNY. So, I'd have a hard time believing they made it up. But maybe?


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I am not speculating Truth or NOT, but Mueller would have this too by now right?

Flags

1) BuzzFeed - Published Dossier
2) Unnamed LEO
3) Report DID NOT see the text or proof (just taking the words from the interview)
4) Original source Cohen (whom is going to jail)


I am about the Principles. BUT this is starting to get out of hand with Accusations. MORE So any time a negative accusation comes fly @ Trump no one actual validates the source.

Buzzfeed, Cohen, Unnamed LEO and Reporter that has NOT seen the evidence.....

IT COULD BE TRUE..... but lots of stuff that makes it NOT seem true either? Are we to take the words of Buzzfeed and Cohen?
 
Conservative said:
What we know is that this investigation has been ongoing for almost two years and still no indictment against the President or not even a charge against the President. that is the issue and all this anti Trump rhetoric is just that, sour grapes over losing an election and hatred for the Trump personality
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So what? If we go by Clinton it took almost 8 years to find something and that wasn't even about whitewater. The whining about it being 2 years is just that..whining
 
bongsaway said:
I honestly don't get trump supporters. He lies in abundance and his supporters then try to convince everyone else what he actually meant when he lied. I have eyes, I have ears, I can actually see our president when he says the things he does, I don't need an interpreter. Then we have the truth, which isn't the truth according to rudy. Even the things that our president lies about and can be proven to be false, trump supporters believe.

How many lies does it take for folks to stop supporting this serial liar?
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Infinitely many. I truly believe that some of them are ready to die--or kill--for their country if their Dear Leader falls to impeachment or being voted out.
 
Exactice said:
I AM A TRUMP SUPPORTER - I CARE

I DO NOT WANT IT COVERED UP

IF HE IS GUILTY HE NEEDS TO BE REMOVED ASAP.


Ok with that out of the way. Is there any penalties for publishing and accusing the "PRESIDENT" (not Trump) under False pretense. or Will this be PAR for the Course as what goes around comes around.

IF TRUMP is guilty of a crime Charge him and get it over with so we as Country can move on to ACTUAL politics and things that matter. Lying about building Trump Tower is dumb.... But Lying is lying...more so instructing someone to lie.

BUT IF THERE IS NO PROOF AND ITS JUST Speculation we NEED to stop this Crap and hold people accountable for false accusation.
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Then let's get the evidence out there and be done with it already. Wherever the evidence leads, we go.
 
year2late said:
I actually agree with a lot of this. I do have a question.....do all allegations need to be false? Is there room for investigation based on decent information?
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Thats a heck of a good question.

Let me say it this way. Incentive..... Risk Vs Reward and NO consequences.

Media gets a lot of leeway due to "Freedom of Press" The sad part is..... it can take a person down even false.

Think Kavanaugh... let me say this IF Kavanaugh is a sexual predator he needs to GO JAIL not just be removed for the SCOTUS PERIOD. Secondly what happened to Ford now? What about Swetnik and Garcia (#2) They disapeared into oblivious because they object was lost? YET the damage they cause is irreparable.


TRUMP is a scumbag.... But the accusation that keep flying has ZERO consequences nor no negative effect on those that do it. Buzzfeed regardless if this is false or not. Got headlines. and Accused the POTUS.... NOTHING negative will come out against them BUT Trump will have more black eyes and more black clouds.

AGAIN I say... is this Par for the course..... LETS be realistic the next DEM president can be freely accused of all kinds of crap by Right wing extremist and we will just accept it because?
 
Hawkeye10 said:
I dont care...Trump was the client, the lawyer was the Officer of the Court....the tail does not wag the dog and if it does it is the dogs fault.
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Oh please, there are a multitude of crimes there, from witness tampering, obstruction of justice, defrauding the U.S.

With you, no tipping point with Trump can ever be reached.
 
danarhea said:
the FBI protecting her, my ass. Comey's reopening Hillary's email investigation was the final nail in her political coffin, and she lost the election because of it. Does that bother me? Not in the least. She was the other "asswipe" running for president.
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I think Comey played a lot of games and was only on his side.

However that doesn’t take away the things he did to help her or negate the things that hurt her.

In this though still waiting for the names of the sources and the actual proof.
 
Plasmaball said:
So what? If we go by Clinton it took almost 8 years to find something and that wasn't even about whitewater. The whining about it being 2 years is just that..whining
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So what? CLINTON LIED UNDER OATH!!! Lying under oath is perjury, you are looking at this through partisan glasses ignoring what is illegal and what isn't all because you liked Clinton and hate Trump
 
MTAtech said:
Oh please, there are a multitude of crimes there, from witness tampering, obstruction of justice, defrauding the U.S.

With you, no tipping point with Trump can ever be reached.
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A true Trumpanzee!
 
Conservative said:
So what? CLINTON LIED UNDER OATH!!! Lying under oath is perjury, you are looking at this through partisan glasses ignoring what is illegal and what isn't all because you liked Clinton and hate Trump
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Because lying about a blowjob from and intern and lying possibly being compromised by a hostile foreign power, well, those lies are completely equal in gravity, I mean duh!:roll:

It just doesn't work that way. We know you don't, can't understand, but it's life none the less. :lamo

Obama and Hillary, all irrelevant and don't make your ****stain of a president any less guilty, nor will it save him:2rofll:
 
Phys251 said:
Then let's get the evidence out there and be done with it already. Wherever the evidence leads, we go.
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Do you or Do you NOT think the Bulk of evidence has been already in the hands that matter?

NY Times recently publishing that FBI filed in inquiry speculating Trump was an Agent of Russia. This is BACK in 2016 in which Mueller has already taken over. YET they publish a incendiary story like that 2 years after its already in the HANDS of Mueller? What purpose did that serve? but to create more divide, ratings and firing up the "Trump Hate crowd"

Now Buzz Feed publishes this story, AFTER Cohen has testified to Congress and interviewed with Mueller, DO YOU NOT Think Mueller already has this if ITS TRUE? So when Mueller release his finding he will Validate it.

BUT Buzzfeed publishing this NOW does WHAT??? It gives them head line ratings again firing up the I hate trump base... BUT does NOTHING because we WONT know till Mueller release it.


Again if there IS EVIDENCE THEY LIKELY already have it............ This is just intended to create more direct divide in our nation its so sad....
 
Exactice said:
Do you or Do you NOT think the Bulk of evidence has been already in the hands that matter?

NY Times recently publishing that FBI filed in inquiry speculating Trump was an Agent of Russia. This is BACK in 2016 in which Mueller has already taken over. YET they publish a incendiary story like that 2 years after its already in the HANDS of Mueller? What purpose did that serve? but to create more divide, ratings and firing up the "Trump Hate crowd"

Now Buzz Feed publishes this story, AFTER Cohen has testified to Congress and interviewed with Mueller, DO YOU NOT Think Mueller already has this if ITS TRUE? So when Mueller release his finding he will Validate it.

BUT Buzzfeed publishing this NOW does WHAT??? It gives them head line ratings again firing up the I hate trump base... BUT does NOTHING because we WONT know till Mueller release it.


Again if there IS EVIDENCE THEY LIKELY already have it............ This is just intended to create more direct divide in our nation its so sad....
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A mountain of evidence this massive against the President of the United States takes a long, long time to build. This is not a case that Mueller is building overnight.

We're going to find out a lot more when he makes his announcement on February 7.
 
MTAtech said:
Oh please, there are a multitude of crimes there, from witness tampering, obstruction of justice, defrauding the U.S.

With you, no tipping point with Trump can ever be reached.
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And the reality that one in this country is innocent until proven guilty is a foreign concept to you. Where are the charges against Trump???? You have Trump convicted of all kinds of things all based upon rumor, innuendo, speculation, and basically hatred of his personality because that is what you want to believe. You have no problem destroying anyone's reputation without evidence and showed that with Kavanaugh and that makes you part of the problem in this country today. Hiding behind a computer screen makes you invincible and what you say regardless of the accuracy can destroy one's life. You don't get it, do you?
 
Conservative said:
And the reality that one in this country is innocent until proven guilty is a foreign concept to you. Where are the charges against Trump???? You have Trump convicted of all kinds of things all based upon rumor, innuendo, speculation, and basically hatred of his personality because that is what you want to believe. You have no problem destroying anyone's reputation without evidence and showed that with Kavanaugh and that makes you part of the problem in this country today. Hiding behind a computer screen makes you invincible and what you say regardless of the accuracy can destroy one's life. You don't get it, do you?
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But of course Hillary, that's different, right?:2rofll:
 
Khalix said:
I’m not going to characterize it. Trump does what Trump does.

Put up the proof and name the sources. Till then it’s just speculation.
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No, speculation is what we do on this board.

Its investigative reporting, which is only as good as the standards set by the journalistic institution. If this were the WaPo or the Times, you would have a high degree of confidence that what you were hearing was substantially true. Buzzfeed is not WaPo or the Times, but its also not RedState, the Daily Caller or DailyKos either.

I think its fair to be skeptical of this reporting; but recognize also that it could be largely to substantially true as well.
 
Conservative said:
So what? CLINTON LIED UNDER OATH!!! Lying under oath is perjury, you are looking at this through partisan glasses ignoring what is illegal and what isn't all because you liked Clinton and hate Trump
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i never made a comment on what Clinton did....just the timeline noting the hypocrisy.
your argument is weak. you've narrowed it down to just trump now in order to have something to say.
Do you have anything better?
 
markjs said:
Because lying about a blowjob from and intern and lying possibly being compromised by a hostile foreign power, well, those lies are completely equal in gravity, I mean duh!:roll:

It just doesn't work that way. We know you don't, can't understand, but it's life none the less. :lamo

Obama and Hillary, all irrelevant and don't make your ****stain of a president any less guilty, nor will it save him:2rofll:
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Because this FACTUALLY HAPPENED IN THE OVAL OFFICE WHILE THE POTUS

Currently THERE IS ZERO "Evidence" *edit*, Charges/indictments to verify that Trump is compromised. IF and when it comes out SURE it is NO WHERE equal in threat.

BUT Clinton LIED and had a BJ in the OVAL office. THERE IS NO Current charges to indicate Trump is compromised or colluded at this time. SO YOU SPECULATE all you want it does NOT make it TRUE.

How about this. Whats worse?

Clinton getting a BJ and lying about it
or
Kavanaugh an accused but never charged sexual predator. (he is also accuse of lying in front of congress)

What worse?
 
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Exactice said:
Because this FACTUALLY HAPPENED IN THE OVAL OFFICE WHILE THE POTUS

Currently THERE IS ZERO FACTS, Charges/indictments to verify that Trump is compromised. IF and when it comes out SURE it is NO WHERE equal in threat.

BUT Clinton LIED and had a BJ in the OVAL office. THERE IS NO Current charges to indicate Trump is compromised or colluded at this time. SO YOU SPECULATE all you want it does NOT make it TRUE.

How about this. Whats worse?

Clinton getting a BJ and lying about it
or
Kavanaugh an accused but never charged sexual predator. (he is also accuse of lying in front of congress)

What worse?
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Actually there is evidence that Trump did this while he is president. Not sure why you even said that. Now we don't know ALL the evidence publicly but there is clearly evidence. It will be up to Mueller to disclose it and provide the proof.
 
Phys251 said:
A mountain of evidence this massive against the President of the United States takes a long, long time to build. This is not a case that Mueller is building overnight.

We're going to find out a lot more when he makes his announcement on February 7.
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I WAVE the BS Flag as Mountain of Evidence. Hear me out.

1) In 2016 FBI open an inquiry on Trump - IF IT WAS That serious of NATIONAL Security (as they claimed they were concerned he was a Russian Agent ) IS IT NOT in the best interest of AMERICAN to remove a MAJOR NATIONAL Security Threat?

2) Mueller TOOK OVER.... IF HE has MOUNTAINS of Evidence That Trump is a Russian Spy. IS NOT in Americans BEST interest to remove the PRESIDENT ASAP and NOT let him stay on for 2+ year more so finish his term?

3) Trump had to commit crimes WELL before 2016 Elections. FBI had to have been on his RADAR circa 2016. IF he was IN FACT a threat to NATIONAL Security, THERE IS ZERO justification to build a case after 2 years.... The would have EVIDENCE TO AT LEAST UNDER NATIONAL SECURITY To remove him from offices. NATIONAL SECURITY WELL OUT WAYS the office of the President.

IF viable proof of a handshake, a money transfer, a document that has Putin and Trump was shown to the public & Senate/house. I THINK The Nation would DEMAND his removal I know I WOULD.


2 years as president and if they have MOUNTAINS of Evidence it is ABSOLUTELY unacceptable to let TRUMP stay in office for 2+ years..... SO are YOU absolutely sure they have Mountains of evidence. Because if you are RIGHT, I WOULD be demanding WHY the FBI and Mueller are NOT removing a NATIONAL Security threat ASAP!
 
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