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[W:141]******Razor burn: Gillette ad stirs online uproar

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ecofarm said:
At this point you're just calling names and screaming.

Sorry I see it different. Good luck getting better at handling outside opinions. And, seriously, just don't offer anecdotal evidence if you cannot handle criticism.

Best of luck.
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Oh, yes, and up til this point, you were ok with degrading, belittling, presuming, judging and badgering, right?

You don't see it different. You are ASSUMING because your seeking confirmation bias.

I can handle criticism. You ought to learn how to be appropriate with people. Offering criticism is one thing. What YOU did was not criticise. I was guilty before I even wrote the words, and that's your problem.
 
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Obscurity said:
I was guilty before I even wrote the words, and that's your problem.
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No, I looked at everything available. The picture you painted, the verbiage, story structure, the information available about you and I decided my opinion.

You're on your tenth ad hom? I haven't offered anything but analysis and commentary on evidence provided. I'm not angry and insulted, despite your best efforts.

Just an opinion on evidence offered.

Good day.
 
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ecofarm said:
No, I looked at everything available. The picture you painted, the verbiage, story structure, the information available about you and I decided my opinion.

You're on your tenth ad hom? I haven't offered anything but analysis and commentary on evidence provided. I'm not angry and insulted, despite your best efforts.

Just an opinion on evidence offered.

Good day.
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Wrong.

You offered no "criticism." You offered accusation. For example, when I described how I personally did nothing, and this was confirmed, you tried and make it out that my wife was having pity on me. Then you mentioned my mother, and my avatar.

At the end of the day, the difference between you and I is, I see constructive criticism as "Well, how close were you? If you were supr close I could see her being uncomfortable." or "Maybe you standing there made her uncomfortable because she felt pressured to finish more quickly."

No. You immediately went to "You're a creep, everyone knows it, they just don't want you to be upset about it."

You're being accusatory, childish and pathetic in your arguments.

As far as ad hominem is concerned, pot, kettle.

You can stop replying if you're unable to see how biased and subjective you're being. I have no use for discourse with partisan, extremist SJW types.
 
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Obscurity said:
Wrong.

You offered no "criticism." You offered accusation. For example, when I described how I personally did nothing, and this was confirmed, you tried and make it out that my wife was having pity on me. Then you mentioned my mother, and my avatar.

At the end of the day, the difference between you and I is, I see constructive criticism as "Well, how close were you? If you were supr close I could see her being uncomfortable." or "Maybe you standing there made her uncomfortable because she felt pressured to finish more quickly."

No. You immediately went to "You're a creep, everyone knows it, they just don't want you to be upset about it."

You're being accusatory, childish and pathetic in your arguments.

As far as ad hominem is concerned, pot, kettle.

You can stop replying if you're unable to see how biased and subjective you're being. I have no use for discourse with partisan, extremist SJW types.
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I'm feeling charitable so while I won't read all that ad hom crap, I will offer a few words of wisdom. People often offer stories that they pretend make them look good. But the stories don't make them look good. They want a high-five, to validate their denial. Most of the time someone gives them the high-five and moves on. Once in a while, someone says, "no, that story makes you look like an asshole". Another day, I might high-five ya. Kinda depends on mood. If I were you, I wouldn't tell that story.

And with that, I bid thee a Good Day.
 
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ecofarm said:
I'm feeling charitable so while I won't read all that ad hom crap, I will offer a few words of wisdom. People often offer stories that they pretend make them look good. But the stories don't make them look good. They want a high five, to validate their denial. Most of the time someone gives them the high five and moves on. Once in a while, someone says, "no, that story makes you look like an asshole". Happens all the time. Another day, I might high five ya. Kinda depends on mood. If I were you, I wouldn't tell that story.

And with that, I bid thee a Good Day.
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Here's some advice for you. Don't tell me what to do. Don't reply to me, since you're now on ignore. And stop using subjective assumptions, accusations and assertions to diminish, degrade, and ridicule people.

And with that, I bid thee good riddance.
 
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calamity said:
The ad is not saying anything like that at all. Where do you people get these whacky ideas?
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If all the men in the ad are seeing encouraging boys' bad behavior, that's a generalization similar to the one I mentioned.

If there was anything clever about the attack on guys, it might qualify as satire, and I'd have no problem with it. But it's just virtue signaling, with no interest in the reality.
 
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ecofarm said:
Maybe if you wore a dress they'd leave you alone. Have you tried that?
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Yes, you can trust this advice because to judge from his posts ecofarm has lots of personal experience with the stratagem.
 
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ecofarm said:
That's not gonna save face either. No one believes you're a stud and no one is going away at your command. You need to put that privilege card down and look at the absolutely pathetic beta nature of your crying.
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Only zetas define complete strangers as betas.
 
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Obscurity said:
The hilarious part is you assume I didn't. I stood about 3' behind her, well outside the normal "personal space". I toyed with my coffee cup and was looking at the books on the wall.

Now, you automatically assume a few things here. You assume I feel victimized. I don't. I feel like she's a ****ing moron projecting her discomfort onto someone who had nothing to do with her actions. I didn't mind waiting. I didn't mind anything at all.

You claim my avatar has something to do with this - hilarious. You know nothing about me, and yet you automatically assume and then choose to insult, slander and dehumanize me.

We're done here. SJW types like you are the reason the "left" loses support from independents like me. I have absolutely no stomach for your "always believe the woman" charlatanry. I have no tolerance for your nonsensical self righteousness, especially about someone you don't even know.

And frankly, I have no time for people like you, with your "super empathetic accepting" demagoguery.

You disgust me.
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Ecofarm's posts are a lot like the Gillette ad: knee-jerk attacks on predictable targets.
 
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Slyfox696 said:
Uh, you clearly didn't watch the commercial. Do you not remember the boys fighting on the lawn?

So you're upset about something you didn't fully understand. I'm shocked.

Not exclusively they don't. Commercials also sell an experience (as 75% of Apple commercials have demonstrated). "The best a man can get" is the Gillete experience. That's what they were selling.

I don't have signatures turned on and I'm sure as hell not going to for yours. Have a great day.
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The issue is not that the commercial depicts boys fighting, but that it shows grown men passively going along with it.
 
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Felis Leo said:
Well, yes, sangha.

I'm not going to praise the charitable nature of an organization that gives charity to causes that I find morally reprehensible. If P&G gave money to charities that were set up by the Muslim Brotherhood or the Council of Conservative Citizens, for example, I do not care how much money they gave to those causes. I would consider the contribution morally dubious at best and wicked at worst.
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A bit embarrassing, but at this point, I do not even remember what the point was :3oops:
 
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The true tragedy here is Television commercials have that much power over some people's lives.
 
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Has anyone posted the meme of all those tightly dressed in racing leather Gillette girls form F1? Ya know, the one with Gillette plastered on their asses? LOL Gillette is going to look so ****ing stupid when that goes viral, and it WILL!!


Tim-
 
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Ouroboros said:
Only zetas define complete strangers as betas.
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A behavior is beta no matter who exhibits it.
 
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Ouroboros said:
What a zeta comeback.
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One should be able to discern between addressing a claim, argument or act and addressing a person. Feigning personal insult is snowflaking.

You're attempting to shut down criticism by misconstruing a critique of argument into a personal attack.

I addressed acts, not people. Stop with the snowflake victim routine.
 
j-mac said:
So, what say you? Love it? Hate it? Either way they are bound to make money off it....

The ad...

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The best part about this ad is watching the snowflakes at FOX News completely melt down over it. LMAO.
 
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ttwtt78640 said:
One that shaves it off on a regular basis.
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...just got rid of mine. The older, distinguished look is no longer something I wish to achieve now that I am older (and distinguished)
 
j-mac said:
So, what say you? Love it? Hate it? Either way they are bound to make money off it....

The ad...

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From a social standard the video is nothing but a social justice piece. It does what it can to cast a shadow on the whole male gender, despite what we already know of how and why these things happen. Not to mention how many of them are outright wrong, much like how Kaepernick protested and then screwed up, showing just how little he knew about the world around him. By voicing "why" it was that he was protesting.

I've sat in on more than my fair share of meetings with both me and women in attendance and never have I once seen a women treated as such. The only place you see anything like that with any levity, is in Hollywood and even then it's heavy handed and meaningless.

The company is just signaling for brownie points right now and they don't really care for sparking a discussion.
Their downfall here however, is that a vast majority of the people this ad is set to appease. Are either people who 95% of the time wouldn't purchase a razor from them, because of their gender. While the other demographic lack the necessary testosterone for growing a beard, or nearly any facial hair for that matter. That they wouldn't be eligible for getting such a razor till they were in their late 30s.
 
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Slyfox696 said:
Uh, you clearly didn't watch the commercial. Do you not remember the boys fighting on the lawn?

So you're upset about something you didn't fully understand. I'm shocked.

Not exclusively they don't. Commercials also sell an experience (as 75% of Apple commercials have demonstrated). "The best a man can get" is the Gillete experience. That's what they were selling.

I don't have signatures turned on and I'm sure as hell not going to for yours. Have a great day.
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"Elitism is not just for the rich and powerful. Elitism is everywhere. The cry of the 'Nouveau-elite' is: You can't be racist but I can be racist. You can't be sexist but I can be sexist (and the Gillette commercial in this thread is sexist). You can't be fascist but I can act like a fascist and fascism only happens on the right." 01/09/19
 
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Slyfox696 said:
Uh, you clearly didn't watch the commercial. Do you not remember the boys fighting on the lawn?

So you're upset about something you didn't fully understand. I'm shocked.

Not exclusively they don't. Commercials also sell an experience (as 75% of Apple commercials have demonstrated). "The best a man can get" is the Gillete experience. That's what they were selling.

I don't have signatures turned on and I'm sure as hell not going to for yours. Have a great day.
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Were there girls fighting on the lawn in the Gillette commercial? Or girls and boys fighting on the lawn? Duh? I understand showing both sexes in the commercial wouldn't play into your desire for comprehensive 'soft reparations' (reparations not called reparations, but hopefully, eventually, legislated) for those you feel have been slighted.

Mebe this kind of 'man behavior' will become a part of hate crimes, ya hope? And girls can bully (men) all they want 'cause men have always been the bullies?
 
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CanadaJohn said:
Yawn - really tired of the social justice warrior class infesting all aspects of society and life - hope there's significant backlash that causes this company and others to get off their platforms and get down to the business of making and selling products people want to buy. Leave the preaching to others
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YEAH, YOU TELL 'EM, DUDE!

If Gillette really cared about men treating women well, Gillette would include on all their packaging a map/diagram showing where the clitoris is located. I know that several of us have been looking for that rascally little thing for years!

Now THAT would be a public service!
 
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cabse5 said:
Were there girls fighting on the lawn in the Gillette commercial?
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That has nothing to do with what we were talking about.

You cannot even act indignant about the right thing.
 
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Slyfox696 said:
That has nothing to do with what we were talking about.

You cannot even act indignant about the right thing.
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Can't win the argument so you change the subject.
 
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Ouroboros said:
Ecofarm's posts are a lot like the Gillette ad: knee-jerk attacks on predictable targets.
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I've got ecofarm on ignore, and will not remove this person. I have no tolerance for SJW types.
 
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