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Pelosi asks Trump to reschedule SOTU because of the shutdown

I think Trump should pepper his SOTU with quotes of things Chuck, Nancy and others have said to him in their closed door meetings with him...play audio recordings if he has them.

The Trump haters will howl in outrage, but the public will learn some truth.

He doesn't dare go there. It will hurt him by far more than anybody else.

This clown has the diction and articulation of a grade schooler.
 
Trump should tell Pelosi to shove it....Not only is he going to give it, but I hope he stands up there and highlights every childish thing Pelosi and here ilk are doing, or shall I say NOT doing about this shutdown....

Sounds like she is starting to see the American people seeing through her's and Schmucky's BS, and are placing blame where it belongs....ON THEM.

It's a political stunt from Pelosi. But actually a pretty clever one. She/they can be rather certain that Trump is going to blast the Democrats from this bully pulpit. She is just taking the opportunity to lob in a few (although minor at this point) bombshells of her own.

The whole shutdown has evolved into nothing more than a political showdown/stare down contest. A battle of egos.


btw.....hi J-Mac. Don't know if we have chatted since back in the Whistlestopper days!!
 
Not seeing the issue here - from my perspective, the SOTU speech is nothing but a bunch of politicos preening for the cameras for the better part of 2 hours once a year. And the speech, in most cases, is vacuous pap. And I'd venture a guess that the whole charade costs the American taxpayer in excess of $20 million.

President Trump gave the nation a dignified defense of his position on the border wall a few days ago and a similar type of speech from the Oval Office in lieu of the charade would be a wise move. In fact, he should disband the SOTU practice going forward.

There’s that little matter of that “piece of paper.”

He’s working on other parts of it just now...............

From Wikepedia—“The address fulfills rules in Article II, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution, requiring the President to periodically "give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient.”
 
The lie is that they were partying, they were raising funds to help Puerto Rico out since Trump and his band of idiots won't help them out like he helped Texas and Florida. Your lying posts are pathetic.

Fox has already had to retract a statement they made indicating Pelosi was at the conference in PR. The Trump brigade would like you to believe it was something other than a conference and a fund raising event as they have their marching orders from GOP Fake news outlets. It consoles them when they have to look at the polls on who America blames for this shut down.
 
Hmm... should we take that (bolded above) idea just a wee bit further and say the we should not have border security infrastructure or personnel which are not funded by foreign sources?

The US as you damn well know, has spent billion$ on border security and has seen a reduction of crossings for 20 years.

...down 2 million just since 2014. The whole idea behind the trump phenomenon is his campaign and his very bold campaign

promises, something the right excoriates the left 24/7 for 40 years.

Mexico would pay foe the wall. Get over it and dunn them for a check or stop the right wings lies.
 
There’s that little matter of that “piece of paper.”

He’s working on other parts of it just now...............

From Wikepedia—“The address fulfills rules in Article II, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution, requiring the President to periodically "give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient.”

He can do that from the Oval Office or via Skype or via snail mail - geeze, and I thought only the UN Climate Nazis were determined to flaunt logic and congregate on a mass show of waste to rail against mass shows of waste.
 
I think Trump should pepper his SOTU with quotes of things Chuck, Nancy and others have said to him in their closed door meetings with him...play audio recordings if he has them.

The Trump haters will howl in outrage, but the public will learn some truth.

Interesting, except fatal flaw in your logic is that the "truth" and Donald Trump do not get along. In fact, they no longer talk to each another, nor particularly like one another.

Hence, it is impossible for Trump to introduce the public to the truth.

https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...ding-claims-over-days/?utm_term=.6a66a65d1214

In fact, there really isn't much of a point to a SOTU from Trump. Some of the worst, most shallow, DP posters often have more to contribute to what is happening in the country than Trump.
 
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He can do that from the Oval Office or via Skype or via snail mail - geeze, and I thought only the UN Climate Nazis were determined to flaunt logic and congregate on a mass show of waste to rail against mass shows of waste.

......or maybe he could Tweet the SOTU speech from the porcelain convenience? Use milk, not urine on your breakfast cereal!
 
I hope he does. Any rebuttal will tear him a new one. This is HIS shutdown. He said so himself.

No taxpayer money for Trump's wall. Not now, not ever.

This whole thing is about as asinine as asinine gets. A personal, very personal battle between pro-Trumpers vs. anti-Trumpers. Between Trump vs. Schumer and Pelosi. What are they fighting over, why is the government shutdown? 5 billion dollars give or take. 5 billion out of the 4 trillion dollars this government will spend this year. That is 0.0125%. Somewhere between one one hundredth and two one hundredth of a sing percent. Crazy to the max. All grownups have left the room, heck, the building. the city, the country, this planet earth. We're left with to little kids fighting over a pile of money that doesn't mean a hill of beans.

Why? Personal ego of both sides? Love and Hate of the president, the political parties? Seems neither side gives a hoot about governing, running the country. Personal political vindictiveness have made both sides puff out their chests. Like three and four year olds, yes, no, yes, no, you can't have it, yes I can. Stupid to the max. Pure idiocy.

Why? Political partisanship and polarization of Washington. Party above country, for the good of the party, not the nation. If either side give one hoot about the nation, the country, a compromise would have occurred long before the shutdown. Bunch of little kids who don't give a darn about whether or not this is harming the country.

Polarization. Try to destroy the other side, leave no prisoners, unconditional surrender. You know who the two most polarized president are and were. Trump and Obama. Republicans tried to deny everything Obama wanted and tried, Democrats are trying to deny everything Trump wants or is trying. No merits or thoughts ever went into the legislation, what they were trying to do, just oppose. Good or bad for the country, just oppose because one or the other proposed it. Who gives an owl hoots about the country? Certainly not our elected leaders and parties in Washington D.C. Take a look at the most polarized presidents since 1945.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/245996...utm_content=morelink&utm_campaign=syndication

Now tell me, over the last 20 years it seems the country has fell to the 26th priority out of 25 for our major political parties. It's all about destroying the other party, the other party's president. Love and loyalty to political party, the nation be danged. No wonder both political parties are shrinking. In 2006 Democrats made up 36% of the electorate, Republicans 32% and independents 30%. Because of polarization, partisanship, those numbers to day are Democrats 30%, Republicans 26%, independents 43%.

Antics like what is going on today will only cause both major parties to shrink more and more. More and more Americans are just fed up with both major parties and are deserting them by the bucket loads. Especially when just 0.0125%, less than one percent of total spending has caused this shutdown. A pox on both major parties. It high time each major party and their leaders recognize they should be Americans first, not Republicans and democrats.

Never happen.
 
He doesn't dare go there. It will hurt him by far more than anybody else.

This clown has the diction and articulation of a grade schooler.

I think that Pelosi is handing him a gift that he won't take.

And I think that she knows it.
 
Trump should tell Pelosi to shove it....Not only is he going to give it, but I hope he stands up there and highlights every childish thing Pelosi and here ilk are doing, or shall I say NOT doing about this shutdown....

Sounds like she is starting to see the American people seeing through her's and Schmucky's BS, and are placing blame where it belongs....ON THEM.

Security for me, but not for thee. Typical Marie Antoinette-style of Nancy Pelosi.
The peak irony of Nancy Pelosi citing security concerns over the safety of the SOTU attendees due to government entities responsible for providing security not being funded because of the government shutdown, as Nancy Pelosi refuses to fund more border fencing (which has been proven effective in reducing crime and illegal immigration, thus keeping Americans safer), thus continuing the government shutdown.

Who wants to offer Nancy Pelosi $1 for her SOTU security? $1, Nancy. Not a penny more!
 
Interesting, except fatal flaw in your logic is that the "truth" and Donald Trump do not get along. In fact, they no longer talk to each another, nor particularly like one another.

Hence, it is impossible for Trump to introduce the public to the truth.

https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...ding-claims-over-days/?utm_term=.6a66a65d1214

Kind of hard to deny the truth of audio recordings, don't you think?
 
I hope he does. Any rebuttal will tear him a new one. This is HIS shutdown. He said so himself.

No taxpayer money for Trump's wall. Not now, not ever.

Pelosi and Schumer should be removed for voting for 700 miles of border barrier making them more racist, evil and wasteful than the 300 miles Trump wants to add.
 
The lie is that they were partying, they were raising funds to help Puerto Rico out since Trump and his band of idiots won't help them out like he helped Texas and Florida. Your lying posts are pathetic.

Bob Menendez was evaluating beach erosion and checking bikini-clad women for skin cancer.
What a Patriot!
 
Fox has already had to retract a statement they made indicating Pelosi was at the conference in PR.
True. Having just returned from her vacation in Hawaii, I don't think she was ready to take off for another in Puerto Rico, even with all of the lobbyists there.
 
This whole thing is about as asinine as asinine gets. A personal, very personal battle between pro-Trumpers vs. anti-Trumpers. Between Trump vs. Schumer and Pelosi. What are they fighting over, why is the government shutdown? 5 billion dollars give or take. 5 billion out of the 4 trillion dollars this government will spend this year. That is 0.0125%. Somewhere between one one hundredth and two one hundredth of a sing percent. Crazy to the max. All grownups have left the room, heck, the building. the city, the country, this planet earth. We're left with to little kids fighting over a pile of money that doesn't mean a hill of beans.

Why? Personal ego of both sides? Love and Hate of the president, the political parties? Seems neither side gives a hoot about governing, running the country. Personal political vindictiveness have made both sides puff out their chests. Like three and four year olds, yes, no, yes, no, you can't have it, yes I can. Stupid to the max. Pure idiocy.

Why? Political partisanship and polarization of Washington. Party above country, for the good of the party, not the nation. If either side give one hoot about the nation, the country, a compromise would have occurred long before the shutdown. Bunch of little kids who don't give a darn about whether or not this is harming the country.

Polarization. Try to destroy the other side, leave no prisoners, unconditional surrender. You know who the two most polarized president are and were. Trump and Obama. Republicans tried to deny everything Obama wanted and tried, Democrats are trying to deny everything Trump wants or is trying. No merits or thoughts ever went into the legislation, what they were trying to do, just oppose. Good or bad for the country, just oppose because one or the other proposed it. Who gives an owl hoots about the country? Certainly not our elected leaders and parties in Washington D.C. Take a look at the most polarized presidents since 1945.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/245996...utm_content=morelink&utm_campaign=syndication

Now tell me, over the last 20 years it seems the country has fell to the 26th priority out of 25 for our major political parties. It's all about destroying the other party, the other party's president. Love and loyalty to political party, the nation be danged. No wonder both political parties are shrinking. In 2006 Democrats made up 36% of the electorate, Republicans 32% and independents 30%. Because of polarization, partisanship, those numbers to day are Democrats 30%, Republicans 26%, independents 43%.

Antics like what is going on today will only cause both major parties to shrink more and more. More and more Americans are just fed up with both major parties and are deserting them by the bucket loads. Especially when just 0.0125%, less than one percent of total spending has caused this shutdown. A pox on both major parties. It high time each major party and their leaders recognize they should be Americans first, not Republicans and democrats.

Never happen.

The shutdown is a purely political move by the President after failing to get anything from the previous two years when his party had complete control of government.

Why should anyone give in to anything that he wants? He had a deal that funded the wall way beyond the $5 Billion that would have passed congress and he blew that deal up.

He is not an honest negotiator and cannot be trusted.

McConnell should bring the budget that was passed 100-0 last month to the floor and knock Executive power down a couple of pegs.
 
Well, then he should give it from the Oval Office. Pelosi's biggest concern is "security", and that would be eliminated if he were to give the televised speech from his Oval Office.
Democrats an Republicans alike could enjoy it in the comfort of their home or any vacation spot in the world.

Oh, we might just demand it in the future! I for one will be looking forward to focusing on what the President is saying, instead of having to watch Nancy Pelosi suck on her teeth, Chuck Schumer silently scold Joe Manchin and various other toddlers playing tile games on their phones. Imagine no clapping, no standing ovations, no theatrics!

This could really work out well for millions of Americans!
 
Not seeing the issue here - from my perspective, the SOTU speech is nothing but a bunch of politicos preening for the cameras for the better part of 2 hours once a year. And the speech, in most cases, is vacuous pap. And I'd venture a guess that the whole charade costs the American taxpayer in excess of $20 million.

President Trump gave the nation a dignified defense of his position on the border wall a few days ago and a similar type of speech from the Oval Office in lieu of the charade would be a wise move. In fact, he should disband the SOTU practice going forward.

I'm seeing a lot of upside!
 
True. Having just returned from her vacation in Hawaii, I don't think she was ready to take off for another in Puerto Rico, even with all of the lobbyists there.

Does not seen to effect the polls. America does not want the wall, and they blame Trump.
 
She didn't go to Puerto Rico.

Facts mean nothing to you?

I hope you were close to your fainting couch.

Eh, then her party is enjoying Puerto Rico too much. It's satire.
 
This whole thing is about as asinine as asinine gets. A personal, very personal battle between pro-Trumpers vs. anti-Trumpers. Between Trump vs. Schumer and Pelosi. What are they fighting over, why is the government shutdown? 5 billion dollars give or take. 5 billion out of the 4 trillion dollars this government will spend this year. That is 0.0125%. Somewhere between one one hundredth and two one hundredth of a sing percent. Crazy to the max. All grownups have left the room, heck, the building. the city, the country, this planet earth. We're left with to little kids fighting over a pile of money that doesn't mean a hill of beans.

Why? Personal ego of both sides? Love and Hate of the president, the political parties? Seems neither side gives a hoot about governing, running the country. Personal political vindictiveness have made both sides puff out their chests. Like three and four year olds, yes, no, yes, no, you can't have it, yes I can. Stupid to the max. Pure idiocy.

Why? Political partisanship and polarization of Washington. Party above country, for the good of the party, not the nation. If either side give one hoot about the nation, the country, a compromise would have occurred long before the shutdown. Bunch of little kids who don't give a darn about whether or not this is harming the country.

Polarization. Try to destroy the other side, leave no prisoners, unconditional surrender. You know who the two most polarized president are and were. Trump and Obama. Republicans tried to deny everything Obama wanted and tried, Democrats are trying to deny everything Trump wants or is trying. No merits or thoughts ever went into the legislation, what they were trying to do, just oppose. Good or bad for the country, just oppose because one or the other proposed it. Who gives an owl hoots about the country? Certainly not our elected leaders and parties in Washington D.C. Take a look at the most polarized presidents since 1945.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/245996...utm_content=morelink&utm_campaign=syndication

Now tell me, over the last 20 years it seems the country has fell to the 26th priority out of 25 for our major political parties. It's all about destroying the other party, the other party's president. Love and loyalty to political party, the nation be danged. No wonder both political parties are shrinking. In 2006 Democrats made up 36% of the electorate, Republicans 32% and independents 30%. Because of polarization, partisanship, those numbers to day are Democrats 30%, Republicans 26%, independents 43%.

Antics like what is going on today will only cause both major parties to shrink more and more. More and more Americans are just fed up with both major parties and are deserting them by the bucket loads. Especially when just 0.0125%, less than one percent of total spending has caused this shutdown. A pox on both major parties. It high time each major party and their leaders recognize they should be Americans first, not Republicans and democrats.

Never happen.

Great post. I don't necessarily disagree, but think there really is something here worth fighting for, and that's more border wall/fence funding, since evidence shows they work where they are put in place in different regions of America, along the border. Further, the people's will should be fulfilled. Why should elections only have consequences when Democrats win the WH?
As your rightly point out, this is a paltry ask from Trump, but the fact that it fulfills a campaign promise means Dems will fight it tooth and nail, even though they gave the matter bi-partisan support for many, many years.
It's not like Trump is asking Congress for approval to start a war. Obama did that and acted without them anyway. This is Trump asking to fund something that can with a high degree of certainty, based on results, protect Americans and America.

What's immoral is Pelosi not budging to give Trump funding, yet decrying HER OWN lack of security at the SOTU.
 
I hope you were close to your fainting couch.

Eh, then her party is enjoying Puerto Rico too much. It's satire.

Nice attempt to deflect with a personal jibe. You told a falsehood that could have been researched by you in 3 seconds, but....that is too hard isn't it?

You could just say..."oh, my bad, I didn't know, sorry"
 
I hope the impasse is all on the dems. I fear not, however. For example, I think Graham of S.Carolina wants Trump to declare a national emergency so congresscritters don't have to vote on the controversial wall issue...The protecting the border issue. Unfortunately, we already know how congresscritters have reacted to immigration reform. They are more interested in their reelection than representing the people or protecting the country. I'm not saying the system is bad I'm saying the people in the system are bad.

TERM LIMITS FOR ALL.

Term limits would cure a lot of ills we have in Washington. They amended to Constitution to put in limits for POTUS. But, Congress will not put limits on themselves. That amendment would have to originate from the States. More politicians, so chances are not that good. Would be great for the country though.
 
Trump getting trolled into doing a SOTU during the shutdown is hilarious.
 
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