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    Trump has concealed details of his face-to-face encounters with Putin from senior officials in admin

    Totally above board, no doubt. So the assurances from the administration that everything's fine are coming from people who have no idea what Trump has been doing with his benefactor.

    Trump has concealed details of his face-to-face encounters with Putin from senior officials in administration
    President Trump has gone to extraordinary lengths to conceal details of his conversations with Russian President Vladimir Putin, including on at least one occasion taking possession of the notes of his own interpreter and instructing the linguist not to discuss what had transpired with other administration officials, current and former U.S. officials said.

    Trump did so after a meeting with Putin in 2017 in Hamburg that was also attended by then-Secretary of State Rex Tillerson. U.S. officials learned of Trump’s actions when a White House adviser and a senior State Department official sought information from the interpreter beyond a readout shared by Tillerson.

    The constraints that Trump imposed are part of a broader pattern by the president of shielding his communications with Putin from public scrutiny and preventing even high-ranking officials in his own administration from fully knowing what he has told one of the United States’ main adversaries.

    As a result, U.S. officials said there is no detailed record, even in classified files, of Trump’s face-to-face interactions with the Russian leader at five locations over the past two years. Such a gap would be unusual in any presidency, let alone one that Russia sought to install through what U.S. intelligence agencies have described as an unprecedented campaign of election interference.
    Former U.S. officials said that Trump’s behavior is at odds with the known practices of previous presidents, who have relied on senior aides to witness meetings and take comprehensive notes then shared with other officials and departments.

    Trump’s secrecy surrounding Putin “is not only unusual by historical standards, it is outrageous,” said Strobe Talbott, a former deputy secretary of state now at the Brookings Institution, who participated in more than a dozen meetings between President Bill Clinton and then-Russian President Boris Yeltsin in the 1990s. “It handicaps the U.S. government — the experts and advisers and Cabinet officers who are there to serve [the president] — and it certainly gives Putin much more scope to manipulate Trump.”
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    Re: Trump has concealed details of his face-to-face encounters with Putin from senior officials in a

    If this were a rational country, Trump's executive powers would be suspended until full investigations into his relations with Russia were completed. That he's still making decisions for the most powerful country on earth stretches credulity to its breaking point.

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    Re: Trump has concealed details of his face-to-face encounters with Putin from senior officials in a

    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeard View Post
    Totally above board, no doubt. So the assurances from the administration that everything's fine are coming from people who have no idea what Trump has been doing with his benefactor.

    Trump has concealed details of his face-to-face encounters with Putin from senior officials in administration
    One question. Is there any law or regulation regarding this process which REQUIRES the President to do otherwise, or is this just something people would prefer the President do?
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    Re: Trump has concealed details of his face-to-face encounters with Putin from senior officials in a

    Trump's out of control, and guilty as hell. He only survives due to GOP abetting. They're as bad as he is, for allowing this. It's a really sad day for the country ...
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    Re: Trump has concealed details of his face-to-face encounters with Putin from senior officials in a

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    One question. Is there any law or regulation regarding this process which REQUIRES the President to do otherwise, or is this just something people would prefer the President do?
    Trump supporters have been reduced exclusively to gas lighting now.

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    Re: Trump has concealed details of his face-to-face encounters with Putin from senior officials in a

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    One question. Is there any law or regulation regarding this process which REQUIRES the President to do otherwise, or is this just something people would prefer the President do?
    There's many abhorrent Presidential actions like this, that may not necessarily be covered by specific statute. It's Congress' job to reign him in. And the GOP are indolent. This would never occur if there was a Dem Senate majority.
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    Re: Trump has concealed details of his face-to-face encounters with Putin from senior officials in a

    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky View Post
    Trump's out of control, and guilty as hell. He only survives due to GOP abetting. They're as bad as he is, for allowing this. It's a really sad day for the country ...
    Adding onto Trump being the dumbest politician the country has ever seen with some "light treason" makes for peak embarrassment of the U.S.A.
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    Re: Trump has concealed details of his face-to-face encounters with Putin from senior officials in a





    Secret meetings between Putin and his puppet no one else in government is privy to, even after the fact? What could go wrong?

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    Re: Trump has concealed details of his face-to-face encounters with Putin from senior officials in a

    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky View Post
    There's many abhorrent Presidential actions like this, that may not necessarily be covered by specific statute. It's Congress' job to reign him in. And the GOP are indolent. This would never occur if there was a Dem Senate majority.
    Well, my point is that just because YOU and others consider it "abhorrent," that may be simply because of the particular individual and the allegations he is a "Siberian Candidate."

    I asked a simple question, and if the answer is "NO, there is no requirement," then much like the demand to reveal one's tax returns it has little meaning except to claim some moral high ground.

    IMO (whataboutism about to pop up) Obama was not expecting to be overheard when he promised the Russian representative he would have more leeway when he was reelected.

    We simply do not know for certain if other Presidents have not done the very same thing with other world leaders. :
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    Re: Trump has concealed details of his face-to-face encounters with Putin from senior officials in a

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    Well, my point is that just because YOU and others consider it "abhorrent," that may be simply because of the particular individual and the allegations he is a "Siberian Candidate."

    I asked a simple question, and if the answer is "NO, there is no requirement," then much like the demand to reveal one's tax returns it has little meaning except to claim some moral high ground.

    IMO (whataboutism about to pop up) Obama was not expecting to be overheard when he promised the Russian representative he would have more leeway when he was reelected.

    We simply do not know for certain if other President's have not done the very same thing with other world leaders. :
    If Trump has only done this with Putin would you find that concerning? If he's never requested this treatment with May, Merkel, etc. Only Putin, then what would you think?
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