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F.B.I. Opened Inquiry Into Whether Trump Was Secretly Working on Behalf of Russia

Threegoofs said:
No.

Not even remotely like that.
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Are you sure?

Based on the timing and other details, the email chain likely refers to either an October 2009 Times story that identified Afghan national Ahmed Wali Karzai, the half-brother of then-Afghan president Hamid Karzai, as a person who received “regular payments from the Central Intelligence Agency” -- or an August 2010 Times story that identified Karzai aide Mohammed Zia Salehi as being on the CIA payroll. Ahmed Wali Karzai was murdered during a 2011 shoot-out, a killing later claimed by the Taliban.
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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/clinton-email-chain-discussed-afghan-nationals-cia-ties-official-says
 
Lesh said:
Meeting with Russians is NOT illegal, Oppo research is NOT illegal, Collusion is NOT illegal

A counterintel investigation IS however called for and is not predicated on illegal activity but rather on a person of interest aiding a foreign government
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I wonder if there is anything illegal about unmasking American's identity or withholding information in order to get a FISA warrant and use federal resources to spy on the opposition party?
 
Anthony60 said:
I wonder if there is anything illegal about unmasking American's identity or withholding information in order to get a FISA warrant and use federal resources to spy on the opposition party?
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Oh but that's different..........:roll: {sarcasm}
 
Threegoofs said:
Yes. It’s terrible that her emails reflected public news stories that later were considered ‘classified’.

If only she referenced cookie recipes.
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So you have no problem that she verified the NYT as correct and naming the CIA asset and putting on an unsecured server that we now believe was compromised by other countries. Then one of those assets got murdered by the Taliban. That's interesting. :roll:
 
calamity said:
The long list of them which you like to ignore.

BTW: It's misdemeanors. Learn to spell it before you opine on it.
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Have you ever noticed when a person is losing a debate they suddenly change into spelling and grammar teachers . :lamo
 
Exactice said:
What Are you guys reading?


Is this a smoking gun?

It states. FBI opened in Inquiry into Trump and his actions? Discovery is key, They grew suspicious, SO what.... what have they found and what are they hiding or what was the discovery. Its BEEN 2 years Nothing leaked, We know nothing from Mueller that is NOW taking this exact thing to the end?


OOOHHHH FBI opened in inquiry... They were spying on Carter Page, They Had Recordings of Flynn, There was a research firm that created a dossier....... HOW about we just wait to see exactly WHAT mueller has got?

MAN you guys want every reason to hate on this guy... I am NOT sticking UP for Trump as if MUELLER has FACTUAL Evidence and formal charges him then hes got to go. BUT at this time NO ONE KNOWS CRAP and you guys are taking this "crap" To a whole nother level.

Twist everything in any ways shape or form, there are NO formal accusations yet, there are NO formal charges.... calm your nerves......
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NO one is digging for reasons to hate Trump. Trump is a scumbag for how he treats people, workers, contractors, village people where he builds golf courses, calls people petty names, schtups porn stars while his newly wed wife just gave birth, lying lying lying incessantly, and pure all around stupidity, lot of reasons to hate trump, no one has to go fishing for reasons.

Trump is not a likable guy, he's a conman, and he is a criminal ( stiffed the IRS to 400 million, illegally, and got away with it) etc etc etc.

His crows are coming home to roost.
 
SLC said:
Have you ever noticed when a person is losing a debate they suddenly change into spelling and grammar teachers . :lamo
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Have you ever noticed that the people who can't debate are the ones that don't know spelling or grammar?
 
OscarLevant said:
NO one is digging for reasons to hate Trump. Trump is a scumbag for how he treats people, workers, contractors, village people where he builds golf courses, calls people petty names, schtups porn stars while his newly wed wife just gave birth, lying lying lying incessantly, and pure all around stupidity, lot of reasons to hate trump, no one has to go fishing for reasons.

Trump is not a likable guy, he's a conman, and he is a criminal ( stiffed the IRS to 400 million, illegally, and got away with it) etc etc etc.

His crows are coming home to roost.
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Trump was mean to the Village People?



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calamity said:
The long list of them which you like to ignore.

BTW: It's misdemeanors. Learn to spell it before you opine on it.
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A list that you can't show us, because they don't exist.

Trufer on.
 
jghiretire said:
ROFLMAO I await your further words of wisdom on that. Yeah no I'm not holding my breath.
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You trufers just don't get it.

I can't wait for the next Democrat president. That's going to be fun! :lamo
 
apdst said:
You trufers just don't get it.

I can't wait for the next Democrat president. That's going to be fun! :lamo
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Must defend the The spy who loved me :roll:

Trump has concealed details of his face-to-face encounters with Putin from senior officials in administration

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apdst said:
You trufers just don't get it.

I can't wait for the next Democrat president. That's going to be fun! :lamo
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The anti-Christ is coming soon to briefly rule the world. You might love him.
 
j-mac said:
Trump was mean to the Village People?



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I know you are joking, but watch the film "You've Been Trumped", for the in depth probe on how Trump treated the villagers of Aberdeenshire Scotland while he pursued his golf course there.
 
SLC said:
So you have no problem that she verified the NYT as correct and naming the CIA asset and putting on an unsecured server that we now believe was compromised by other countries. Then one of those assets got murdered by the Taliban. That's interesting. :roll:
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That's a lie. That did not happen. Also there is no evidence one way or the other that her server was compromised by anyone. But we do know that out President asked Russia to find Clinton's so called missing 30,000 missing emails and the Russians quickly responded within hours to that request by trying hack into email accounts at a domain hosted by a third-party provider and used by Clinton's personal office via spearfishing.


 
Exactice said:
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There is NO way you CAN play off Carter as a no body, HOW many no bodies then have a FISA warrant 4 times against them?

Flynn I have now grave concerns as lying to the FBI is NOTHING in comparison to intentionally withholding his lobbying for Turkey. EVERYONE new as its his business by why lie about that?

This unprecedented YES BUT. IF NATIONAL Security is threated by EVEN the POTUS there should BE NO reason why he remains in OFFICE, THis New York Time piece and that concern of the FBI is a GRAVE bother some allegation. And if NO actions was TAKEN for 2 years for a person that threatens national security we have ISSUES. OR was it an unfounded accusation with ZERO proof or credibility?
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Come on man. Compared to a sitting President Carter Page is a relative nobody and not everybody knew what the full extent of Flynn's business relationships were. Which BTW appears to be another hallmark of this Trump campaign and administration in that so many people within it, Carter Page, Papadopoulos, Kushner, Trump Jr, and even Trump himself has their own little 'open for business' signs up for seemingly any foreign entity to come inquire within. But especially with Russia. At least 28 high-ranking campaign officials and Trump advisors were aware of contacts with Russia-linked operatives during the campaign and transition these individual contacts number over 100 and not one were reported to any federal agency. All were initially covered up. Any rational person looking at all of that would have ask at some point what the hell is going on there?

Yes we now know that the FBI had opened a counterintelligence inquiry into President Trump to explore whether or not this President is wittingly or unwittingly acting as an agent for a foreign power or has been compromised by that foreign power in some way. We now know that Mueller inherited that investigation and that now changes our understanding of the nature of Mueller's investigation in that it was formerly thought of in the terms having separate ongoing investigations. One criminally orientated, obstruction of justice, and one that was counterintelligence orientated in trying to understand what the Russians had done to interfere in our national election and whether any Americans had assisted or cooperated, wittingly or unwittingly, (collusion) with that Russian operation. It's now has become apparent that they were actually one and the same in that the obstruction perhaps was the collusion.

Now what determination Mueller has made in regard to what the President's level of involvement was or wasn't or if he continues to be looked at as being a national security threat has yet to be told. Also remember this. There is no way or process for the FBI or the DOJ to be able to remove a sitting President from office on it's own initiative. Indeed there exists within the DOJ legal opinions that express doubt that a sitting President can even be indicted. So in actuality the removal of a President from office can really only be done via what is really more of a political process rather than a legal process as outlined in the Constitution. And that is impeachment.

Also there was only one FISA warrant taken out Carter Page. That same warrant was renewed 4 times.
 
Objective Voice said:
I'm confused as to why so many people are surprised about this. Comey said in the very beginning once the FBI became aware of the Steele dossier that the FBI was concerned that Trump may have been compromised by the Russians. It's logical (to me) they'd take things more seriously after Comey was fired and especially after Pres. Trump revealed classified information pertaining to Israel to Russian officials right in the White House.

To learn that federal law enforcement officials were concerned by the President's behavior and started investigating him behind his back doesn't surprise me one bit under the circumstances. Frankly, I'd be more surprised if they did nothing after the fact.
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Was the FBI elected by a majority of the Electoral College? They're employees, plain and simple.
NeverTrumpGOP said:
If Trump directed Comey's firing on behalf of Russia, that would be treason and it would lead to more questions about his other seemingly crazy, seemingly anti-american behavior.
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The U.S. Constitution (link) provides an exclusive and explicit remedy:

Article II said:
The President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.
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tres borrachos said:
What is the relevance of this post, and what does it have to do with that post you quoted?
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The language to which I was responding was:
Objective Voice said:
It's logical (to me) they'd take things more seriously after Comey was fired and especially after Pres. Trump revealed classified information pertaining to Israel to Russian officials right in the White House. To learn that federal law enforcement officials were concerned by the President's behavior and started investigating him behind his back doesn't surprise me one bit under the circumstances. Frankly, I'd be more surprised if they did nothing after the fact.
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My point was and is that "federal law enforcement officials" are employees. Full stop.

At least in Watergate, there was a known crime that someone committed, i.e. a burglary in the middle of the night, when only the convenience stores and Hess stations were open. On the person of the arrested burglars was physical evidence tying them to the RNC and to the Committee to Re-Elect the President ("CREEP"). Here people have the generalized idea that Trump is creepy and proceeded to seek a crime to investigate. Carts don't lead horses very well.
 
JBG said:
The language to which I was responding was:My point was and is that "federal law enforcement officials" are employees. Full stop.

At least in Watergate, there was a known crime that someone committed, i.e. a burglary in the middle of the night, when only the convenience stores and Hess stations were open. On the person of the arrested burglars was physical evidence tying them to the RNC and to the Committee to Re-Elect the President ("CREEP"). Here people have the generalized idea that Trump is creepy and proceeded to seek a crime to investigate. Carts don't lead horses very well.
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Still doesn't answer my question. Who said the FBI are not "employees"? And what does the EC have to do with anything? Trump is a federal employee as well.
 
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