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    Trump rejects shutdown deal Republicans negotiated with Republicans

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    Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) had credible reasons to believe he could help negotiate some kind of resolution to the ongoing government shutdown. Not only does the GOP senator enjoy close ties to Donald Trump, he’s also played a key role within his party on immigration policy, having helped craft the bipartisan “Gang of Eight” bill.


    With this in mind, when there was scuttlebutt on Capitol Hill this week about Graham working behind the scenes on a possible deal, it was at least worth watching. Yesterday, however, those efforts collapsed – because of White House opposition. Politico reported:


    President Donald Trump has rejected a plan proposed by a bloc of Senate Republicans who had hoped to break an impasse over the government shutdown, leaving Congress and the White House with little obvious way out of the extended battle over Trump’s border wall.


    On the 20th day of the shutdown, the GOP group tried to jump start bipartisan talks before Trump declares a national emergency to get his wall. But the president rejected their idea to allow congressional committees to sort out his border wall request while the government reopened, deeming the idea likely to leave him with nothing to show for the shutdown.


    Some of the relevant details of the plan remain elusive, but by all accounts, there was a proposal on the table. Vice President Mike Pence and acting Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney took it to the president, who balked.
    Please remove this idiot.
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    Re: Trump rejects shutdown deal Republicans negotiated with Republicans

    So.....what was the deal? Are you sure it was one Democrats would have accepted?

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    Re: Trump rejects shutdown deal Republicans negotiated with Republicans

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    Please remove this idiot.
    You aren’t listening. No barrier funding no budget. That doesn’t mean budget in exchange for spending another 20 years talking about the barrier in committee.

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    Re: Trump rejects shutdown deal Republicans negotiated with Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    You aren’t listening. No barrier funding no budget. That doesn’t mean budget in exchange for spending another 20 years talking about the barrier in committee.
    This is not how faithful Democracy works.

    Choosing to irresponsibly allow government services to lapse in to order to extort your opposition to change their votes, is not only unacceptable politics that shouldn't be tolerated, it's downright un-american in its morality.

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    Re: Trump rejects shutdown deal Republicans negotiated with Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    So.....what was the deal? Are you sure it was one Democrats would have accepted?
    Are you suggesting Trump turned down the deal because he was worried it was too extreme and the Democrats wouldn't have accepted it?

    The point it... Trump is such a terrible negotiator and so extreme he can't even work with his own party during a crisis he invented to get something done.
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    Re: Trump rejects shutdown deal Republicans negotiated with Republicans

    No wall, no deal, period! Staying strong, unlike past republicans, including the RINO's currently sitting in Congress.

    These idiots haven't figured out this yet, Trump is not to be bullied like past Republican Presidents!


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    Re: Trump rejects shutdown deal Republicans negotiated with Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by MovingPictures View Post
    This is not how faithful Democracy works.

    Choosing to irresponsibly allow government services to lapse in to order to extort your opposition to change their votes, is not only unacceptable politics that shouldn't be tolerated, it's downright un-american in its morality.

    How about kicking the can down the road for 40 years, where does that line up in your "moral" approach to governance?


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    Re: Trump rejects shutdown deal Republicans negotiated with Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by MovingPictures View Post
    This is not how faithful Democracy works.

    Choosing to irresponsibly allow government services to lapse in to order to extort your opposition to change their votes, is not only unacceptable politics that shouldn't be tolerated, it's downright un-american in its morality.
    I completely disagree. Legislation requires the President’s signature and he’s under no obligation to do that for nothing.

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    Re: Trump rejects shutdown deal Republicans negotiated with Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by MovingPictures View Post
    This is not how faithful Democracy works.

    Choosing to irresponsibly allow government services to lapse in to order to extort your opposition to change their votes, is not only unacceptable politics that shouldn't be tolerated, it's downright un-american in its morality.
    Likely a first step towards a dictatorship, or at least the end of our democracy. Creating crises where none exist & holding 800K people ransom in order to fulfill a silly campaign promise is totalitarianism.
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    Re: Trump rejects shutdown deal Republicans negotiated with Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    Are you suggesting Trump turned down the deal because he was worried it was too extreme and the Democrats wouldn't have accepted it?

    The point it... Trump is such a terrible negotiator and so extreme he can't even work with his own party during a crisis he invented to get something done.
    I'm saying that the article you linked to doesn't include any information whatsoever on what the "deal" entailed. It's rather impossible to hold a valid opinion on whether his rejection of the deal was good or bad if there are no details regarding what was up for agreement.

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