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    Re: Trump rejects shutdown deal Republicans negotiated with Republicans

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    No, that is not the way debate works.

    You make the assertion, its up to you to back it up when you are called out on it, which I am doing. You can't back up the statement, which apparently you can not, we all get to assume you can't because it isn't true.

    The idea that the US spends more than $100B annually on illegal immigrants is hearsay, hence not deemed to be true.

    We are all entitled to see where you get your ideas from (and to criticize them when those sources, if any, are weak).

    Thank you for playing your weak hand.

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    Re: Trump rejects shutdown deal Republicans negotiated with Republicans

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    I completely disagree. Legislation requires the Presidentís signature and heís under no obligation to do that for nothing.
    But holding government workers hostage is not the way to do it

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    Re: Trump rejects shutdown deal Republicans negotiated with Republicans

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    And just like a liberal illegal immigration isn't a cost and a wall won't reduce that cost. You live in the wrong country and a very poorly informed on basic economics, civics, history. So much hatred and yet so much radicalism
    The President of the United States has shut down the federal government to force Congress to fund his project.
    Imagine if your sainted Founders could know what a travesty he's made of their creation. Thomas Jefferson might see this as grounds for dissolving the Union.
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    Re: Trump rejects shutdown deal Republicans negotiated with Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Yes there are significant problems with the Trump campaign during the 2016 elections. Trump repeatedly violated our laws in ways that defrauded voters not the least of which included soliciting and accepting help from Russia and lying about it. This apparently included a quid pro quo where Putin was allowed to dictate our foreign policy which amounts to treason. You don't care because you are complicit with that treason. That is a serious problem with your patriotism and reasoning.
    Your posts belong in the conspiracy theory forum, and when I see posts you likes it bodes for education reform in this country and school vouchers

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    Re: Trump rejects shutdown deal Republicans negotiated with Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    You and Trump belong in Moscow where your authoritarian dreams have already been realized. There is no place for either of you here.
    No, it is people like you who belong in some other country because you are totally clueless as to the Constitution and role of the Federal govt. You people never admit when wrong and always promote a divisive wealth redistribution ideology

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    Re: Trump rejects shutdown deal Republicans negotiated with Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    No, that is not the way debate works.

    You make the assertion, its up to you to back it up when you are called out on it, which I am doing. You can't back up the statement, which apparently you can not, we all get to assume you can't because it isn't true.

    The idea that the US spends more than $100B annually on illegal immigrants is hearsay, hence not deemed to be true.

    We are all entitled to see where you get your ideas from (and to criticize them when those sources, if any, are weak).

    Thank you for playing your weak hand.
    It has been fact checked by Politifact and the amount is somewhere between 43 billion and 279 billion. To believe what you believe shows totally naivety and ignorance of the problems because costs don't resonate with you. Your ideology is a plague on this country and people like you can never admit when wrong

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    Re: Trump rejects shutdown deal Republicans negotiated with Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    The President of the United States has shut down the federal government to force Congress to fund his project.
    Imagine if your sainted Founders could know what a travesty he's made of their creation. Thomas Jefferson might see this as grounds for dissolving the Union.
    Then pass the bill, have it vetoed and override the veto. Democrats have no problem with the human and fiscal costs of illegal immigration and are scared to death that the veto couldn't be overridden showing just how radical you and your party have become. Going to be fun for the next two year watching you radicals blowing a gasket over every word and policy Trump speaks and implements. Hopefully a family member of yours isn't brutalized by a MS-13 or other illegal immigrant

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    Re: Trump rejects shutdown deal Republicans negotiated with Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    No, that is not the way debate works.

    You make the assertion, its up to you to back it up when you are called out on it, which I am doing. You can't back up the statement, which apparently you can not, we all get to assume you can't because it isn't true.

    The idea that the US spends more than $100B annually on illegal immigrants is hearsay, hence not deemed to be true.

    We are all entitled to see where you get your ideas from (and to criticize them when those sources, if any, are weak).

    Thank you for playing your weak hand.
    Thank you for showing a total inability to admit when wrong

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...ca-not-n950981

    If a wall prevents any of that cost to be reduced then it is a good return on investment, something you radicals will never understand. You used the same argument against the Reagan debt ignoring the peace dividend created

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    Re: Trump rejects shutdown deal Republicans negotiated with Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Then pass the bill, have it vetoed and override the veto. Democrats have no problem with the human and fiscal costs of illegal immigration and are scared to death that the veto couldn't be overridden showing just how radical you and your party have become. Going to be fun for the next two year watching you radicals blowing a gasket over every word and policy Trump speaks and implements. Hopefully a family member of yours isn't brutalized by a MS-13 or other illegal immigrant
    I'm Canadian, nothing bad can happen to me or mine.
    Fact remains, the President has shut down the government to force the Congress to fund his project. Not exactly what the Founders had in mind. You only approve because of the partisan divide, which also is a travesty. Picture a Democratic President and Republican Congress and tell me this is acceptable.
    You guys are willing to toss the whole concept of government that your Founders designed into the trash for the sake of your partisan loyalty.
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    Re: Trump rejects shutdown deal Republicans negotiated with Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    I'm Canadian, nothing bad can happen to me or mine.
    Fact remains, the President has shut down the government to force the Congress to fund his project. Not exactly what the Founders had in mind. You only approve because of the partisan divide, which also is a travesty. Picture a Democratic President and Republican Congress and tell me this is acceptable.
    You guys are willing to toss the whole concept of government that your Founders designed into the trash for the sake of your partisan loyalty.
    That is the way our govt.works, Congress can pass the law, watch Trump veto the legislation and then override the veto. As a Canadian you have no idea what the Founders had in mind but bet it wasn't operating on continuing resolutions and NO budget nor being a 4.4 trillion dollar federal govt.

    You just don't have any understanding of civics and would be better off just being quiet until you did get an understanding. Vetoes can and are overridden. We have three equal branches of govt. in this country. Trump was well within his authority to do what he did and the fact that bothers you so much and doesn't affect speaks volumes about you and just anti Trump feelings and pure hatred

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