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Angry furloughed federal workers protest shutdown at the White House, around the country

Smartmouthwoman said:
Sorry, Im not anxious or fearful. The shutdown will end and Ill go back to my job and be paid for the time Ive been off. Youre right about one thing though. Unlike our Dem lawmakers, furloughed govt workers cant travel too far since we'll have to report back to work the day after the shutdown ends.

Sorry to cut this discussion short, but Im meeting a furloughed friend for lunch and we'll prob do a little shopping after.

Oh woe is us.

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You are just one person. A lot of feds have expressed anxiety and worry over how they’ll manage.
 
Birdzeye said:
You are just one person. A lot of feds have expressed anxiety and worry over how they’ll manage.
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Not anybody on this forum. Guess youll just have to decide whether you believe what youre being fed by the media... or the truth. Obvious which way you lean.
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
That is quite the impressive rationalization you have going there. Though I guess being a Trump supporter makes one a seasoned rationalizer. After all, one has to rationalize him bragging about sexual assault, paying off pornstars that he was sleeping with when he had a baby at home, and so on. So rationalizing Trump shutting down the government has to be pretty easy at this point.
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Interesting you bring up the immoral behavior of Trump.

And, Totally ignore the immoral behavior of the pornstars.

The married man, Trump would not be able to cheat on his wife without the help of those pornstars.

Do you see a pattern...

You are also>>> letting Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi off the Moral Hook.

Which>>> would be the Moral (right) thing for Pelosi to do given her power to do so...

And, help them get their paychecks that would protect them from all the disasters mentioned quite often in this thread from happening to them.

Results: You appear to be in agreement with The Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi that Trump not getting his immoral pointy steel fence is far more important than those Federal Employees and their families getting the much needed paychecks as soon as possible...

Why do you suppose Pelosi is not taking the Moral High Ground concerning their plight?

imho Roseann
 
Smartmouthwoman said:
Not anybody on this forum. Guess youll just have to decide whether you believe what youre being fed by the media... or the truth. Obvious which way you lean.
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Are you saying that the number of furloughed feds who are anxious is a small number? Too funny. Did Breitbart, WND and Fox tell you the “truth?” ��

And I thought you were going shopping.
 
Birdzeye said:
Are you saying that the number of furloughed feds who are anxious is a small number? Too funny. Did Breitbart, WND and Fox tell you the “truth?” ��

And I thought you were going shopping.
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Apparently they are better off being able to take an extended vacation......
 
SCrider said:
Apparently they are better off being able to take an extended vacation......
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As I already pointed out, they have worries about when the next paycheck will come. And flying to Cancún for a vacation is out of the question, not just because of the financial worries, but because they will be expected to report for duty as soon as the furlough ends, whenever that may be.

The one and only silver lining for furloughed employees is that they now can tackle chores that don’t get done when they’re working.
 
Birdzeye said:
As I already pointed out, they have worries about when the next paycheck will come. And flying to Cancún for a vacation is out of the question, not just because of the financial worries, but because they will be expected to report for duty as soon as the furlough ends, whenever that may be.

The one and only silver lining for furloughed employees is that they now can tackle chores that don’t get done when they’re working.
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Here is where my snark came from. Since the majority of Americans are pay check pay check I would doubt many would risk their savings on a tropical vacation now anyway...
https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/trump-adviser-suggests-unpaid-government-032510246.html
 
Birdzeye said:
Are you saying that the number of furloughed feds who are anxious is a small number? Too funny. Did Breitbart, WND and Fox tell you the “truth?”

And I thought you were going shopping.
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At the restaurant, waiting for lunch. Flattered that you care. Looks like y'all could dig up ONE disgruntled furloughed govt worker to post here and back up your claims. You mean in all the members of this forum, Im the only furloughed worker willing to speak up?

Maybe the others are at the mall using credit cards they wont have to pay until their backpay kicks in.
 
SCrider said:
Here is where my snark came from. Since the majority of Americans are pay check pay check I would doubt many would risk their savings on a tropical vacation now anyway...
https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/trump-adviser-suggests-unpaid-government-032510246.html
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True. I was responding to the risible notion that the furlough is a “vacation.” When I took a week off to help Mom out after Dad died, I didn’t consider that week off a “vacation,” and if I were a furloughed fed, I wouldn’t consider the furlough a “vacation” either, precisely because, as you point out, I’m not going to take a tropical vacation when I don’t know when the next paycheck will be coming in.
 
Incredulous said:
Yes. Our POTUS can end their plight by signing the spending bill passed by both parties. I'm holding our POTUS accountable for his ownership of this shutdown, not fixating. You're deflecting and can't seem to stay on topic.

Furthermore, stop putting words in my mouth about an "immoral wall" and assuming that I support the SOH.
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Our POTUS did try to compromise and negotiate with both parties.

The Speaker of The House Nancy Pelosi shut that down when she told our POTUS that she wouldn't fund his border wall even if he ended the government shutdown.

The border wall Pelosi called "immoral".

And, she also made a public statement she would give our POTUS a dollar for his wall.

I have no problem with you holding our POTUS accountable for this shutdown.

I am on topic. The topic is the plight of the Federal Workers not getting paychecks and all of the bad consequences that could happen to them.

My problem is ignoring the fact, that Nancy Pelosi can solve the problem for the Federal Employees via her power to do so.

Combined with no expectation of her taking the Moral High Ground to help them get their paychecks.

I'm sincerely sorry, my intention was not to put words in your mouth. I should have worded it differently leaving out the word immoral. Please, accept my apology.

What do you think about... Pelosi's having no Moral obligation to help those Federal Employees via her power to do so in favor of not giving funding for our POTUS's pointy steel fence compromise instead of his concrete wall.

Roseann:)
 
Smartmouthwoman said:
At the restaurant, waiting for lunch. Flattered that you care. Looks like y'all could dig up ONE disgruntled furloughed govt worker to post here and back up your claims. You mean in all the members of this forum, Im the only furloughed worker willing to speak up?

Maybe the others are at the mall using credit cards they wont have to pay until their backpay kicks in.
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I’m hearing about it from my friends on FB who are furloughed feds but don’t post here.

And yesterday, you said something about your agency didn’t require prior clearance for outside activities such as a second job. That makes me wonder if you’re BSing us with saying you’re a furloughed fed, since when I looked around, every department and agency website has some reference to needing ethics clearance to do such a thing.

And no, it’s not a question of my caring about you. It’s a question of your saying that you’re off shopping, suggesting that you won’t be around for a while, only to find out that that wasn’t true after all.
 
CharisRose said:
Our POTUS did try to compromise and negotiate with both parties.

The Speaker of The House Nancy Pelosi shut that down when she told our POTUS that she wouldn't fund his border wall even if he ended the government shutdown.

The border wall Pelosi called "immoral".

And, she also made a public statement she would give our POTUS a dollar for his wall.

I have no problem with you holding our POTUS accountable for this shutdown.

I am on topic. The topic is the plight of the Federal Workers not getting paychecks and all of the bad consequences that could happen to them.

My problem is ignoring the fact, that Nancy Pelosi can solve the problem for the Federal Employees via her power to do so.

Combined with no expectation of her taking the Moral High Ground to help them get their paychecks.

I'm sincerely sorry, my intention was not to put words in your mouth. I should have worded it differently leaving out the word immoral. Please, accept my apology.

What do you think about... Pelosi's having no Moral obligation to help those Federal Employees via her power to do so in favor of not giving funding for our POTUS's pointy steel fence compromise instead of his concrete wall.

Roseann:)
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you got it backwards. Trump went back on his word, more than once. For instance, he proclaimed that he would “proudly” take blame for the shutdown. We see how good his word is.

He has steadfastly refused to compromise or make some kind of deal that both sides could walk away with feeling like they got something. Noooo, with trump it’s his way or the highway. He wants to,win and his opponents to lose, bigly. He’s a spoiled brat. Add to that his history of lying, and it’s understandable that intelligent people are not going to trust him.

The House passed bills to fund unfounded agencies last week, but Senator McConnell (R-trumpistan) won’t let the Senate debate or vote on them. So don’t give me that crap about the Dems being the obstructionists.
 
Birdzeye said:
What a crock. It’s trump and the GOPers who don’t care about the plight of the federal workers. Last week, the House passed funding bills for the shuttered departments. Senator McConnell, a GOPer, blocked Senate consideration of those bills.

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Is it complete nonsense that The Democrat Speaker of The House has the power to end the shut down and take the Moral High Ground to end the plight of the Federal Employees as soon as possible to prevent all of the bad consequences described on this thread?

Roseann:)
 
CharisRose said:
Is it complete nonsense that The Democrat Speaker of The House has the power to end the shut down and take the Moral High Ground to end the plight of the Federal Employees as soon as possible to prevent all of the bad consequences described on this thread?

Roseann:)
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Pelosi absolutely has the power, and they know it. Hence, the finger pointing.
Trump has compromised and the amount. He's offered to negotiate DACA. He's said no wall, but fence now.
That's a lot of moving on Trump's part.

Roseann, they know how bad Dems look. Further, Dems can never be trusted, so opening up the gov't is out of the question if it's based on the promise that AFTER they get what they want, they'll negotiate with Trump.
They won't.
 
CharisRose said:
Is it complete nonsense that The Democrat Speaker of The House has the power to end the shut down and take the Moral High Ground to end the plight of the Federal Employees as soon as possible to prevent all of the bad consequences described on this thread?

Roseann:)
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It’s complete nonsense that trump and the GOPers try to hijack the moral high ground when there are already bills passed by the House that would end the plight of federal workers if only McConnell would let the Senate vote on them and trump were not to use his veto pen.
 
Acadia said:
Pelosi absolutely has the power, and they know it. Hence, the finger pointing.
Trump has compromised and the amount. He's offered to negotiate DACA. He's said no wall, but fence now.
That's a lot of moving on Trump's part.

Roseann, they know how bad Dems look. Further, Dems can never be trusted, so opening up the gov't is out of the question if it's based on the promise that AFTER they get what they want, they'll negotiate with Trump.
They won't.
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'Course they won't.
Have you ever had to deal with a spoiled bully child? If you say 'no' to him you can't reward the tantrum that comes by saying, "Okay, you can have it now."

Just wondering, is this how you think your government should work? If the elected Congress says it won't fund the President's project he shuts down the government and threatens a national emergency to force Congress to do what he wants, is that the way the men who designed it thought it should be? Looks to me like the President is trying to work the loopholes, trying to subvert the duly elected legislature who were given by your Founders the right and responsibility to decide how the budget is spent.
 
CharisRose said:
Is it complete nonsense that The Democrat Speaker of The House has the power to end the shut down and take the Moral High Ground to end the plight of the Federal Employees as soon as possible to prevent all of the bad consequences described on this thread?

Roseann:)
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Why should she end the shutdown that Trump wanted? Since he wanted it, and proudly said so, then he should end it. You know - he should take the moral high ground to end the plight of the federal employees who he put in that position.
 
Acadia said:
Pelosi absolutely has the power, and they know it.
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Both houses passed the same bill, a GOP bill no less, so where is the problem other than an asshole and his flufers holding workers hostage?

Trump has compromised and the amount. He's offered to negotiate DACA. He's said no wall, but fence now.
That's a lot of moving on Trump's part.
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Bull crap. He was offered everything but the imbecile rejected it and now he has people like you spreading lies.
 
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prometeus said:
Both houses passed the same bill, a GPO bill no less, so where is the problem other than an asshole and his flufers holding workers hostage?

Bull crap. He was offered everything but the imbecile rejected it and now he has people like you spreading lies.
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Jim Jones would be so envious.
 
Grand Mal said:
'Course they won't.
Have you ever had to deal with a spoiled bully child? If you say 'no' to him you can't reward the tantrum that comes by saying, "Okay, you can have it now."

Just wondering, is this how you think your government should work? If the elected Congress says it won't fund the President's project he shuts down the government and threatens a national emergency to force Congress to do what he wants, is that the way the men who designed it thought it should be? Looks to me like the President is trying to work the loopholes, trying to subvert the duly elected legislature who were given by your Founders the right and responsibility to decide how the budget is spent.
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You've just described Barrack Obama's presidency. Literally.

Back to your question, the answer is no. I really don't like Executive overreach and much prefer our politicians work in a bi-partisan manner. Problem is, therre is no cause great enough for the Dems to stop their efforts to either unseat a duly-elected President, or ensure he's so politically damaged that he's unelectable in 2020.
 
Acadia said:
You've just described Barrack Obama's presidency. Literally.

Back to your question, the answer is no. I really don't like Executive overreach and much prefer our politicians work in a bi-partisan manner. Problem is, therre is no cause great enough for the Dems to stop their efforts to either unseat a duly-elected President, or ensure he's so politically damaged that he's unelectable in 2020.
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The House is composed of duly-elected representatives and, after the last election, the Dems control it. Yet trump and the GOP are determined to subvert the will of the people, as voiced by the House in funding legislation passed last week and which Senator McConnell is preventing Senate consideration.

So how are the GOPers showing bipartisanship?
 
tres borrachos said:
Why should she end the shutdown that Trump wanted? Since he wanted it, and proudly said so, then he should end it. You know - he should take the moral high ground to end the plight of the federal employees who he put in that position.
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Don't waste your time trying to debate with one of the trolls. Am certain there must be a Weight Watchers meeting somewhere missing one of their longtime members.
 
Crosscheck said:
Don't waste your time trying to debate with one of the trolls. Am certain there must be a Weight Watchers meeting somewhere missing one of their longtime members.
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Yes, and now apparently Trump is too incompetent or ignorant to end his own shutdown, so he needs Nancy Pelosi to do it for him.

Not only is she SOTH, apparently she has to act as Trump's left brain, too. I hope she's up for the job.
 
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