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    Trump orders FEMA to halt payments to California as wildfire recovery continues

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    Trump orders FEMA to halt payments to California as wildfire recovery continues

    Jan. 9 (UPI) -- President Donald Trump said Wednesday that he ordered the Federal Emergency Management Agency to cut off relief money for California as the state recovers from the deadliest wildfires in its history.

    "Billions of dollars are sent to the State of California for Forest fires that, with proper Forest Management, would never happen," Trump tweeted Wednesday. "Unless they get their act together, which is unlikely, I have ordered FEMA to send no more money. It is a disgraceful situation in lives & money."

    An estimated 86 people died in the Camp Fire in Butte County north of San Francisco. The fire burned 153,000 acres in November, destroying 14,000 homes, 528 commercial buildings and 4,300 other structures. That includes the entire town of Paradise.

    Trump's announcement comes three days after California Gov. Gavin Newsom was sworn in and, with one of his first acts, signed new legislation that modernizes the way the state responds and prepares for natural disasters.

    COMMENT:-

    Obviously California doesn't need any money to help with the destruction caused by fires because the fires are out and the damage has already been done so there is no "emergency" to "manage" and that would mean that it would be illegal to re-purpose funds that Congress has said should be used to "manage emergencies" to "helping those left-wing, liberal, pinko, socialist, commies who wouldn't vote Republican whatever you paid them to do the way that the so-called 'Democrats' pay them to 'Vote Democrat'".

    Right?

    Or is Mr. Trump just being petty and childish?

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    Re: Trump orders FEMA to halt payments to California as wildfire recovery continues

    Quote Originally Posted by TU Curmudgeon View Post
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    Trump orders FEMA to halt payments to California as wildfire recovery continues

    Jan. 9 (UPI) -- President Donald Trump said Wednesday that he ordered the Federal Emergency Management Agency to cut off relief money for California as the state recovers from the deadliest wildfires in its history.

    "Billions of dollars are sent to the State of California for Forest fires that, with proper Forest Management, would never happen," Trump tweeted Wednesday. "Unless they get their act together, which is unlikely, I have ordered FEMA to send no more money. It is a disgraceful situation in lives & money."

    An estimated 86 people died in the Camp Fire in Butte County north of San Francisco. The fire burned 153,000 acres in November, destroying 14,000 homes, 528 commercial buildings and 4,300 other structures. That includes the entire town of Paradise.

    Trump's announcement comes three days after California Gov. Gavin Newsom was sworn in and, with one of his first acts, signed new legislation that modernizes the way the state responds and prepares for natural disasters.

    COMMENT:-

    Obviously California doesn't need any money to help with the destruction caused by fires because the fires are out and the damage has already been done so there is no "emergency" to "manage" and that would mean that it would be illegal to re-purpose funds that Congress has said should be used to "manage emergencies" to "helping those left-wing, liberal, pinko, socialist, commies who wouldn't vote Republican whatever you paid them to do the way that the so-called 'Democrats' pay them to 'Vote Democrat'".

    Right?

    Or is Mr. Trump just being petty and childish?
    Please tell me you are being facetious.




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    Re: Trump orders FEMA to halt payments to California as wildfire recovery continues

    Terrorist.

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    Re: Trump orders FEMA to halt payments to California as wildfire recovery continues

    Is the state responsible for federal land management?

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    Re: Trump orders FEMA to halt payments to California as wildfire recovery continues

    Quote Originally Posted by TU Curmudgeon View Post
    From United Press International

    Trump orders FEMA to halt payments to California as wildfire recovery continues

    Jan. 9 (UPI) -- President Donald Trump said Wednesday that he ordered the Federal Emergency Management Agency to cut off relief money for California as the state recovers from the deadliest wildfires in its history.

    "Billions of dollars are sent to the State of California for Forest fires that, with proper Forest Management, would never happen," Trump tweeted Wednesday. "Unless they get their act together, which is unlikely, I have ordered FEMA to send no more money. It is a disgraceful situation in lives & money."

    An estimated 86 people died in the Camp Fire in Butte County north of San Francisco. The fire burned 153,000 acres in November, destroying 14,000 homes, 528 commercial buildings and 4,300 other structures. That includes the entire town of Paradise.

    Trump's announcement comes three days after California Gov. Gavin Newsom was sworn in and, with one of his first acts, signed new legislation that modernizes the way the state responds and prepares for natural disasters.

    COMMENT:-

    Obviously California doesn't need any money to help with the destruction caused by fires because the fires are out and the damage has already been done so there is no "emergency" to "manage" and that would mean that it would be illegal to re-purpose funds that Congress has said should be used to "manage emergencies" to "helping those left-wing, liberal, pinko, socialist, commies who wouldn't vote Republican whatever you paid them to do the way that the so-called 'Democrats' pay them to 'Vote Democrat'".

    Right?

    Or is Mr. Trump just being petty and childish?
    Well trump is right cuz....

    cuz....

    Hannity will explain, have to wait....

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    Re: Trump orders FEMA to halt payments to California as wildfire recovery continues

    This gets so damn old.... Bashing president Trump even though he is 100% correct!
    More of the same on DP!


    Trump was right: California’s forests have been grossly mismanaged

    https://www.fresnobee.com/opinion/re...221683150.html

    Trump is right. We do have a management problem on the state, federal level and local levels (in that order). This can be broken down into six key areas where we have failed: Access, logging, grazing, endangered species, water quality and air pollution.


    Mismanaged, overcrowded forests provide fuel to historic California wildfires, experts say

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/p...es-experts-say

    Neglect and mismanagement have left western U.S. forests overcrowded, firefighting experts say, leaving them more susceptible to the kinds of major wildfires that are currently ravaging California.

    “Our forests are dramatically overcrowded,” said Krystal Beckham of the Little Hoover Commission, an independent California oversight agency that has called for major changes in the state's forest management practices.

    “There are some places where there may be four times as many trees as there should be,” Beckham said. “When you have trees that close together, they can’t get the water they need, so they are more susceptible to drought, insects, and disease. And when they start dying, they become a terrible fire threat.”

    Actually, even California says Trump is right about the wildfires

    https://nypost.com/2018/11/20/actual...the-wildfires/

    President Trump’s critics are belittling him for not buying the lefty narrative that global warming is to blame for the California wildfires. Instead, Trump points to decades of mistakes by government agencies that caused the woodlands to become overly dense and blanketed with highly flammable dead wood and underbrush.

    He’s exactly right.

    Just ask California officials. Two months ago, the state legislature enacted a measure that would expedite the removal of dead trees and use “prescribed burns” to thin forests. In other words: the very same reforms that Trump is now being mocked for proposing. The September law followed a Gov. Jerry Brown executive order earlier this year that also called for “controlled fires” to improve forest health.
    “The Special Counsel’s investigation did not find that the Trump campaign or anyone associated with it conspired or coordinated with Russia in its efforts to influence the 2016 U.S. presidential election.”

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    Re: Trump orders FEMA to halt payments to California as wildfire recovery continues

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Please tell me you are being facetious.
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    Re: Trump orders FEMA to halt payments to California as wildfire recovery continues

    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense 1 View Post
    This gets so damn old.... Bashing president Trump even though he is 100% correct!
    More of the same on DP!


    Trump was right: California’s forests have been grossly mismanaged

    https://www.fresnobee.com/opinion/re...221683150.html

    Trump is right. We do have a management problem on the state, federal level and local levels (in that order). This can be broken down into six key areas where we have failed: Access, logging, grazing, endangered species, water quality and air pollution.


    Mismanaged, overcrowded forests provide fuel to historic California wildfires, experts say

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/p...es-experts-say

    Neglect and mismanagement have left western U.S. forests overcrowded, firefighting experts say, leaving them more susceptible to the kinds of major wildfires that are currently ravaging California.

    “Our forests are dramatically overcrowded,” said Krystal Beckham of the Little Hoover Commission, an independent California oversight agency that has called for major changes in the state's forest management practices.

    “There are some places where there may be four times as many trees as there should be,” Beckham said. “When you have trees that close together, they can’t get the water they need, so they are more susceptible to drought, insects, and disease. And when they start dying, they become a terrible fire threat.”

    Actually, even California says Trump is right about the wildfires

    https://nypost.com/2018/11/20/actual...the-wildfires/

    President Trump’s critics are belittling him for not buying the lefty narrative that global warming is to blame for the California wildfires. Instead, Trump points to decades of mistakes by government agencies that caused the woodlands to become overly dense and blanketed with highly flammable dead wood and underbrush.

    He’s exactly right.

    Just ask California officials. Two months ago, the state legislature enacted a measure that would expedite the removal of dead trees and use “prescribed burns” to thin forests. In other words: the very same reforms that Trump is now being mocked for proposing. The September law followed a Gov. Jerry Brown executive order earlier this year that also called for “controlled fires” to improve forest health.
    So the appropriate response where money is needed to rectify past mistakes is to refuse to provide the money.

    Yep, makes a whole lot of nonsense to me.

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    Re: Trump orders FEMA to halt payments to California as wildfire recovery continues

    Quote Originally Posted by TU Curmudgeon View Post
    So the appropriate response where money is needed to rectify past mistakes is to refuse to provide the money.

    Yep, makes a whole lot of nonsense to me.
    Great glad you are happy with what the president ordered!
    “The Special Counsel’s investigation did not find that the Trump campaign or anyone associated with it conspired or coordinated with Russia in its efforts to influence the 2016 U.S. presidential election.”

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    Re: Trump orders FEMA to halt payments to California as wildfire recovery continues

    He's trying to make the wall issue go away because he knows he's already lost it, but he can't back down because, as he said, "because then I'd look foolish." Also, to back down risks letting public attention go back to the investigations into him, his campaign and his administration.

    Solution? Throw his base red meat by reminding them that Californians are their enemies and not their fellow Americans.
    Last edited by Cardinal; 01-10-19 at 02:36 PM.

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