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    Re: Trump orders FEMA to halt payments to California as wildfire recovery continues

    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense 1 View Post
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    Just ask California officials. Two months ago, the state legislature enacted a measure that would expedite the removal of dead trees and use “prescribed burns” to thin forests. In other words: the very same reforms that Trump is now being mocked for proposing. The September law followed a Gov. Jerry Brown executive order earlier this year that also called for “controlled fires” to improve forest health.

    So if they're enacting the reforms he demanded then what is his excuse for denying FEMA money to a state which already pays more in taxes than it gets back from the federal government?

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    Re: Trump orders FEMA to halt payments to California as wildfire recovery continues

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    He's trying to make the wall issue go away because he knows he's already lost it, but he can't back down because, as he said, "because then I'd look foolish." Also, to back down risks letting public attention go back to the investigations into him, his campaign and his administration.

    Solution? Throw his base red meat by reminding them that Californians are their enemies and not their fellow Americans.

    And we have a winner.

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    Re: Trump orders FEMA to halt payments to California as wildfire recovery continues

    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense 1 View Post
    Great glad you are happy with what the president ordered!
    I'm not sure if you did not run your mouse (while holding down the left mouse button) over the (suspicious) space between the word "of" and the word "sense" in my post or if you actually got my point.

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    Re: Trump orders FEMA to halt payments to California as wildfire recovery continues

    Quote Originally Posted by Amelia View Post
    So if they're enacting the reforms he demanded then what is his excuse for denying FEMA money to a state which already pays more in taxes than it gets back from the federal government?
    I believe that the reports that California had "enacted the reforms" was carried by the MSM, so the only "logical" conclusion that Mr. Trump could draw from that is that California had NOT done so. After all, everything in the MSM is a deliberate lie - isn't it?

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    Re: Trump orders FEMA to halt payments to California as wildfire recovery continues

    Quote Originally Posted by TU Curmudgeon View Post
    So the appropriate response where money is needed to rectify past mistakes is to refuse to provide the money.

    Yep, makes a whole lot of nonsense to me.
    Is FEMA funding the correct pathway to rectify mis management of national forests?
    Now watch what you say or they'll be calling you a radical, liberal, fanatical, criminal.

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    Re: Trump orders FEMA to halt payments to California as wildfire recovery continues

    Quote Originally Posted by jdog21 View Post
    Is FEMA funding the correct pathway to rectify mis management of national forests?
    Since it would appear that the California legislature has already taken the steps needed to "rectify" the situation (assuming, of course, that you can trust a single word that you read in the lying, left-wing, dishonest, socialist, untrustworthy, pinko commie so-called "MSM") then the money is to help IMPLEMENT the measures needed to "rectify" the situation.

    On the other hand, why should California, which is one of the richest states in the United States of America expect the other (and, obviously, not so rich) states to pay to rectify a situation that the California government deliberately created. I mean does California think that OTHER PEOPLE should pay for its own mistakes? Why that's **C*O*M*M*U*N*I*S*M** when you expect other people to simply give you money just because they have it any you want it - isn't it?

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    Re: Trump orders FEMA to halt payments to California as wildfire recovery continues

    Quote Originally Posted by TU Curmudgeon View Post
    Since it would appear that the California legislature has already taken the steps needed to "rectify" the situation (assuming, of course, that you can trust a single word that you read in the lying, left-wing, dishonest, socialist, untrustworthy, pinko commie so-called "MSM") then the money is to help IMPLEMENT the measures needed to "rectify" the situation.

    On the other hand, why should California, which is one of the richest states in the United States of America expect the other (and, obviously, not so rich) states to pay to rectify a situation that the California government deliberately created. I mean does California think that OTHER PEOPLE should pay for its own mistakes? Why that's **C*O*M*M*U*N*I*S*M** when you expect other people to simply give you money just because they have it any you want it - isn't it?

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    While I do agree the problem have come from California mis management the FEMA fund are for emergencies and as such their is always reduction in their funds once the situation has been handled. Since most the clean up is done whats is left for FEMA to do?
    Now watch what you say or they'll be calling you a radical, liberal, fanatical, criminal.

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    Re: Trump orders FEMA to halt payments to California as wildfire recovery continues

    Quote Originally Posted by jdog21 View Post
    While I do agree the problem have come from California mis management the FEMA fund are for emergencies and as such their is always reduction in their funds once the situation has been handled. Since most the clean up is done whats is left for FEMA to do?
    Other than wondering if "most of the cleanup is done" is actually an accurate statement, I really don't know what is left for FEMA to do?

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    Re: Trump orders FEMA to halt payments to California as wildfire recovery continues

    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense 1 View Post
    This gets so damn old.... Bashing president Trump even though he is 100% correct!
    More of the same on DP!


    Trump was right: California’s forests have been grossly mismanaged

    https://www.fresnobee.com/opinion/re...221683150.html

    Trump is right. We do have a management problem on the state, federal level and local levels (in that order). This can be broken down into six key areas where we have failed: Access, logging, grazing, endangered species, water quality and air pollution.


    Mismanaged, overcrowded forests provide fuel to historic California wildfires, experts say

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/p...es-experts-say

    Neglect and mismanagement have left western U.S. forests overcrowded, firefighting experts say, leaving them more susceptible to the kinds of major wildfires that are currently ravaging California.

    “Our forests are dramatically overcrowded,” said Krystal Beckham of the Little Hoover Commission, an independent California oversight agency that has called for major changes in the state's forest management practices.

    “There are some places where there may be four times as many trees as there should be,” Beckham said. “When you have trees that close together, they can’t get the water they need, so they are more susceptible to drought, insects, and disease. And when they start dying, they become a terrible fire threat.”

    Actually, even California says Trump is right about the wildfires

    https://nypost.com/2018/11/20/actual...the-wildfires/

    President Trump’s critics are belittling him for not buying the lefty narrative that global warming is to blame for the California wildfires. Instead, Trump points to decades of mistakes by government agencies that caused the woodlands to become overly dense and blanketed with highly flammable dead wood and underbrush.

    He’s exactly right.

    Just ask California officials. Two months ago, the state legislature enacted a measure that would expedite the removal of dead trees and use “prescribed burns” to thin forests. In other words: the very same reforms that Trump is now being mocked for proposing. The September law followed a Gov. Jerry Brown executive order earlier this year that also called for “controlled fires” to improve forest health.
    You do realize that two thirds of public land in Cali is Federal, right?

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    Re: Trump orders FEMA to halt payments to California as wildfire recovery continues

    “Our forests are dramatically overcrowded,” said Krystal Beckham of the Little Hoover Commission, an independent California oversight agency that has called for major changes in the state's forest management practices.

    Just ask California officials. Two months ago, the state legislature enacted a measure that would expedite the removal of dead trees and use “prescribed burns” to thin forests. In other words: the very same reforms that Trump is now being mocked for proposing. The September law followed a Gov. Jerry Brown executive order earlier this year that also called for “controlled fires” to improve forest health.
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