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    Re: Texas landowners dig in to fight Trumpís border wall

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    Its their choice.
    lol...no it's not. It's a bad idea dropped on an anonymous debate forum that will never be considered by anyone.
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    Re: Texas landowners dig in to fight Trumpís border wall

    Quote Originally Posted by HumblePi View Post
    Everyone seems to be conflating the two terms, 'eminent domain' and 'condemnation'.

    The simple answer is that the amount of private property reasonably necessary for public use may be taken. The taking can be of all or part of a property. Examples of property that can be taken include land, an easement on a piece of land, improvements such as homes or barns, and rights to surface or ground water.

    Eminent domain
    is the power of the government or someone acting upon power granted by the government to take private property for public use. The power of eminent domain is recognized in both the United States and Texas Constitutions.

    Condemnation
    is the exercise of the power of eminent domain. Thus, when the government or a person/entity authorized to use eminent domain takes property, it engages in condemnation.

    There are three elements of eminent domain under Texas law: (1) The actor must be the state or a private entity authorized to condemn; (2) the property must be taken for public use; and (3) the landowner must receive adequate compensation for the condemned property.

    Who can condemn property?

    Under Texas law, only a governmental entity or a private entity granted the power of eminent domain under law is permitted to condemn property. The simple answer is that the amount of private property reasonably necessary for public use may be taken 'with or without' compensation through legal means. How many lands owners that have already stated "they will take my land over my dead body" really means what they say and if they do, does the government engage in a physical confrontation with them?
    That'd be pretty extreme for 150ft.

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    Re: Texas landowners dig in to fight Trumpís border wall

    Quote Originally Posted by OlNate View Post
    lol...no it's not. It's a bad idea dropped on an anonymous debate forum that will never be considered by anyone.
    You need to speak for yourself. Your post's wordings are imprecise.
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    Re: Texas landowners dig in to fight Trumpís border wall

    Quote Originally Posted by cabse5 View Post
    You need to speak for yourself. Your post's wordings are imprecise.
    lol...ok, cabse, tell me in what scenario you see American citizens being shut out of the country by some dumb wall, simply because they don't want it on their property. Unless it ends in "and then Trump got turfed", I don't believe you.
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    Re: Texas landowners dig in to fight Trumpís border wall

    Quote Originally Posted by JacksinPA View Post
    https://www.apnews.com/0b3d63c524214bbdbfb58ce8f61589f0

    HIDALGO, Texas (AP) ó As President Donald Trump travels to the border in Texas to make the case for his $5.7 billion wall, landowner Eloisa Cavazos says she knows firsthand how the project will play out if the White House gets its way.

    The federal government has started surveying land along the border in Texas and announced plans to start construction next month. Rather than surrender their land, some property owners are digging in, vowing to reject buyout offers and preparing to fight the administration in court.
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    Hard working land owners & ranchers like this guy will make sure this wall goes no where.
    Eminent domain has already been adjudicated in the SCOTUS the ranch owners donít have a chance. They took private homes to build ATT stadium to play football . Land to build a barrier to defend the American people is a sure thing.

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    Re: Texas landowners dig in to fight Trumpís border wall

    Quote Originally Posted by Checkerboard Strangler View Post
    Same here. Many years ago, a small part of my extended family (an uncle in construction) worked a couple of small projects for what used to be Fred Trump's company. Payment was MIA. Eventually they wound up dealing with the so called "Trump Organization" and they wound up not getting paid. Thankfully it wasn't a career ending problem but it sure stung for a while.

    The good news is, my uncle (and my grandfather) instead got connected with a decent contracting company which probably built almost a third of the postwar homes in Long Island

    Yep, my family has been well aware of what a crook Trump is for a very long time.

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    That's an awesome story. I truly believe that if you're originally from anywhere in the 'tri-state' area you most certainly grew up knowing about Trump and what a 'sheister' he was. Nobody likes him here and certainly nobody trusts him. He's really nothing more than a very wealthy racketeer/thug.
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    Re: Texas landowners dig in to fight Trumpís border wall

    Quote Originally Posted by OlNate View Post
    lol...no it's not. It's a bad idea dropped on an anonymous debate forum that will never be considered by anyone.
    That describes everything on this forum.

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    Re: Texas landowners dig in to fight Trumpís border wall

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    That describes everything on this forum.
    haha...that I will agree with you wholeheartedly, bud....at least the "never considered by anyone" part.
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    Re: Texas landowners dig in to fight Trumpís border wall

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Person View Post
    Why don't these mainly conservative Texans want to stop the rapist hordes crossing their land on a daily basis with their drugs and their murder?
    Because it depends on where the ranch is some ranches are effected more than others. But if a barrier is built on some areas but not others illegals will start crossing where there is no wall. So the wall needs to be continuous. These ranchers will have to deal with it for the sake of their neighbors. And when they watch football they need to realize 200 homeowners gave up homes not just grazing land.

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    Re: Texas landowners dig in to fight Trumpís border wall

    Quote Originally Posted by HumblePi View Post
    Do you even understand what a carpetbagger is? If you did, your claim would be in direct opposition to whatever point you thought you were trying to make.
    I do, and it was meant as humor really.
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