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    A growing number of Americans blame Trump for shutdown: Reuters-Ipsos poll

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1P223U

    NEW YORK (Reuters) - A growing proportion of Americans blame President Donald Trump for a partial government shutdown that will cut off paychecks to federal workers this week, though Republicans mostly support his refusal to approve a budget without taxpayer dollars for the U.S.-Mexico border wall, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll released on Tuesday.

    The national opinion poll, which ran from Jan. 1 to Jan. 7, found that 51 percent of adults believe Trump “deserves most of the blame” for the shutdown, which entered its 18th day on Tuesday. That is up 4 percentage points from a similar poll that ran from Dec. 21 to 25.
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    Not a surprising result. Wonder what the numbers will be after Trump mangles the truth tonight.
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    Re: A growing number of Americans blame Trump for shutdown: Reuters-Ipsos poll

    Oh, look -- more proof that it's not the border wall that Democrats oppose, but a political win for Trump:

    The poll found that 41 percent of the public supports building additional border fencing, down 12 points from a similar poll that ran in the first week of 2015, as opposition doubled among Democrats.

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    Re: A growing number of Americans blame Trump for shutdown: Reuters-Ipsos poll

    Quote Originally Posted by JacksinPA View Post
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1P223U

    NEW YORK (Reuters) - A growing proportion of Americans blame President Donald Trump for a partial government shutdown that will cut off paychecks to federal workers this week, though Republicans mostly support his refusal to approve a budget without taxpayer dollars for the U.S.-Mexico border wall, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll released on Tuesday.

    The national opinion poll, which ran from Jan. 1 to Jan. 7, found that 51 percent of adults believe Trump “deserves most of the blame” for the shutdown, which entered its 18th day on Tuesday. That is up 4 percentage points from a similar poll that ran from Dec. 21 to 25.
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    Not a surprising result. Wonder what the numbers will be after Trump mangles the truth tonight.


    Trump declared in his taped meeting with Pelosi and Schumer that he would take up the mantle, take responsibility, for the government shutdown (strike). I doubt that Trump even knows what "taking up the mantle" even means, that it would mean that the government shutdown is a good thing and that he is the holy prophet of a cause, being the wall. Oh, wait, maybe he blundered into his own self image by that declaration. Oh well.

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    Re: A growing number of Americans blame Trump for shutdown: Reuters-Ipsos poll

    Quote Originally Posted by JacksinPA View Post
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1P223U

    NEW YORK (Reuters) - A growing proportion of Americans blame President Donald Trump for a partial government shutdown that will cut off paychecks to federal workers this week, though Republicans mostly support his refusal to approve a budget without taxpayer dollars for the U.S.-Mexico border wall, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll released on Tuesday.

    The national opinion poll, which ran from Jan. 1 to Jan. 7, found that 51 percent of adults believe Trump “deserves most of the blame” for the shutdown, which entered its 18th day on Tuesday. That is up 4 percentage points from a similar poll that ran from Dec. 21 to 25.
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    Not a surprising result. Wonder what the numbers will be after Trump mangles the truth tonight.
    A growing number of Americans are idiotic lemmings.

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    Re: A growing number of Americans blame Trump for shutdown: Reuters-Ipsos poll

    Quote Originally Posted by trixare4kids View Post
    A growing number of Americans are idiotic lemmings.
    Yes and the imbeciles elected Trump as President.

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    Re: A growing number of Americans blame Trump for shutdown: Reuters-Ipsos poll

    Quote Originally Posted by trixare4kids View Post
    A growing number of Americans are idiotic lemmings.
    Nah... That number seems to have peaked in November of 2016.
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    Re: A growing number of Americans blame Trump for shutdown: Reuters-Ipsos poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Oh, look -- more proof that it's not the border wall that Democrats oppose, but a political win for Trump:
    This is probably the most dishonest argument I hear repeated by Trump supporters.

    A: Congress already gave Trump $1.6 billion for his wall, most of which he has yet to spend. It is Trump who has failed to build even one foot of new wall.

    https://qz.com/1516960/trump-speech-...e-already-has/

    B: The bill that was passed by the Senate would have given Trump another $1.6 billion.

    C: Trump chose to SHUT DOWN the government to demand what he wanted putting Dems in the position that they can't relent or he will employ the tactic every time he wants something.

    So you can stop the pissy moany party. Nobody is buying it.
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    Re: A growing number of Americans blame Trump for shutdown: Reuters-Ipsos poll

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Nah... That number seems to have peaked in November of 2016.
    Didn't Hillary get 3 million more votes?

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    Re: A growing number of Americans blame Trump for shutdown: Reuters-Ipsos poll

    Quote Originally Posted by SLC View Post
    Didn't Hillary get 3 million more votes?
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    Re: A growing number of Americans blame Trump for shutdown: Reuters-Ipsos poll

    Quote Originally Posted by trixare4kids View Post
    A growing number of Americans are idiotic lemmings.
    no, it seems like the idiotic lemmngs are down to about 42.1%.


    OK, that exchange did much to drive the maturity of this debate. Let's try again.

    There is no compelling case for the wall. Illegal border crossings are 10% of what they were 15 years ago and the number if illegals in this country is down 10%. The facts suggest what has been done to date is working and negates the argument that more needs to be done. It also stands to reason that more people are against pursuing the border wall given there is a lessening of the perceived problem.

    If you have a case for spending $30B + for a wall on the southern border, let's hear it.
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