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    Re: A growing number of Americans blame Trump for shutdown: Reuters-Ipsos poll

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    Didn't Hillary get 3 million more votes?
    Fake news. Those were all illegal immigrants shipped over the border to vote illegally.

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    Re: A growing number of Americans blame Trump for shutdown: Reuters-Ipsos poll

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    A growing number of Americans are idiotic lemmings.
    From a Trumpette...bwahahahahahahahaha
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    Re: A growing number of Americans blame Trump for shutdown: Reuters-Ipsos poll

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    This is probably the most dishonest argument I hear repeated by Trump supporters.

    A: Congress already gave Trump $1.6 billion for his wall, most of which he has yet to spend. It is Trump who has failed to build even one foot of new wall.

    https://qz.com/1516960/trump-speech-...e-already-has/

    B: The bill that was passed by the Senate would have given Trump another $1.6 billion.

    C: Trump chose to SHUT DOWN the government to demand what he wanted putting Dems in the position that they can't relent or he will employ the tactic every time he wants something.

    So you can stop the pissy moany party. Nobody is buying it.

    From what I heard on CNN and Fox tonight as well as previously, the proposed money for border security was not allowed to be used for the wall.
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    Nevertheless people should be cautious in doubting Buzzfeed's journalistic chops.

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    Re: A growing number of Americans blame Trump for shutdown: Reuters-Ipsos poll

    Quote Originally Posted by dobieg View Post
    From what I heard on CNN and Fox tonight as well as previously, the proposed money for border security was not allowed to be used for the wall.
    From the link I posted...

    Nearly 60% of those funds have been promised in contract awards made through the Army Corps of Engineers via Customs and Border Protection (CBP), a Department of Homeland Security spokesperson said. That includes 35 of 40 miles of replacement wall funded by the fiscal 2017 budget and $700 million of the $1.2 billion funded in the 2018 budget, she said.

    In other words, the DHS has committed about 60% of the money for physical barriers via new contracts, while 40% of the money remains uncommitted. In fact, the government shutdown over the wall is stopping the agency from committing more money to build it. “An additional approximately $300 million is ready to award as soon as the government reopens” the DHS spokesperson said.
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    Re: A growing number of Americans blame Trump for shutdown: Reuters-Ipsos poll

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    This is probably the most dishonest argument I hear repeated by Trump supporters.

    A: Congress already gave Trump $1.6 billion for his wall, most of which he has yet to spend. It is Trump who has failed to build even one foot of new wall.

    https://qz.com/1516960/trump-speech-...e-already-has/

    B: The bill that was passed by the Senate would have given Trump another $1.6 billion.

    C: Trump chose to SHUT DOWN the government to demand what he wanted putting Dems in the position that they can't relent or he will employ the tactic every time he wants something.

    So you can stop the pissy moany party. Nobody is buying it.
    What does any of this have to do with Democrat opposition to a wall doubling simply because it's not Obama in the White House any more, it's Trump?

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    Re: A growing number of Americans blame Trump for shutdown: Reuters-Ipsos poll

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    From the link I posted...

    That was the first $1.6 Billion which could be used for the wall. I'm talking about the next $1.6 Billion for the recent spending bill that could not be used for the border wall.
    Quote Originally Posted by NeverTrumpGOP View Post
    Nevertheless people should be cautious in doubting Buzzfeed's journalistic chops.

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    Re: A growing number of Americans blame Trump for shutdown: Reuters-Ipsos poll

    A growing number of Americans blame Trump for shutdown
    fair enough. he said that he would own the shutdown. of course, he also said that Mexico would pay for ego wall, so there's that.

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    Re: A growing number of Americans blame Trump for shutdown: Reuters-Ipsos poll

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    Yes and the imbeciles elected Trump as President.
    A growing number of imbeciles tried to elect Hillary and are still crying a river because she got beat...

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    Re: A growing number of Americans blame Trump for shutdown: Reuters-Ipsos poll

    Quote Originally Posted by SLC View Post
    Didn't Hillary get 3 million more votes?

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    Re: A growing number of Americans blame Trump for shutdown: Reuters-Ipsos poll

    Quote Originally Posted by dobieg View Post
    From what I heard on CNN and Fox tonight as well as previously, the proposed money for border security was not allowed to be used for the wall.
    Correct.

    The Democratic congressional leaders, Sen. Chuck Schumer and Rep. Nancy Pelosi, have proposed no more than $1.6 billion, as outlined in a bipartisan Senate bill. The money would not go for the wall but for fencing upgrades and other border security.
    White House Isn'''t Flinching Over $5 Billion Border Wall | Time

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