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Networks to air Pelosi, Schumer rebuttal to Trump

I don't know, what is wrong with people wanting to become citizens? Is there anything wrong with people wanting to come here and get benefits, handouts, or commit crimes and kill people? Are you good with those people coming here too?

I don't even understand your second question, since it isn't even remotely related to what I asked you, and it's silly childish hyperbole.

So let me try this again. You seem very upset that people (Democrats?) want non-citizens to become US citizens. Why is that?
 
I think the problem a lot of Democrats up with this wall is not about enhancing border security. Most experts on the subject ( I know conservatives hate experts, but still) are telling us that the resources could be much better spent in other ways, like aerial surveillance, motion detectors, etc.... if you really think there is such a serious problem at the border, which is questionable, these might be better use of resources. Trump may find that the Democrats would be more open to such measures than just a giant wall.

So what’s wrong with a wall? Well, as explained above, experts are telling us it’s not the most effective use of our resources. But more than that, it’s deeply offensive. Symbolically, it is a very insulting thing to do to our largest trading partner, not to mention the rest of South America. It’s good to not insult the entire planet. This wall is the symbolic equivalent of a giant middle finger stuck out to all of Central and South America, and probably just as effective in getting the actual work done.

A wall is offensive??? Is a border offensive too? What about immigration laws? They are all meant to keep people from entering the country illegally. Sorry, that's completely ridiculous.
 
I don't even understand your second question, since it isn't even remotely related to what I asked you, and it's silly childish hyperbole.

So let me try this again. You seem very upset that people (Democrats?) want non-citizens to become US citizens. Why is that?

I never said that.
 
So you agree that Reagan t5ried to compromise, which is exactly what I said.

What has Trump offered to the Democrats in return for his big beautiful wall?

Nothing, which is just what Reagan got.
 
Your right that for the process to take place they have to be granted asylum. But getting asylum provides them with a quicker path to a green card then through or immigration process and places another obstacle on the system when trying to only let in certain amounts of people due them giving out regular green cards and then having to add all the asylee's on top of it.'

With a current back log of more then 5,000 where is the funding for more courts and judges to process all these people?

As far as making us look, most countries go by internal law which would require all asylum seekers to be forced to ask for asylum in the nearest safe country, so for these central American people that would be Mexico and not the US. So I think we'd still look good.

You think Mexico is safe for those people? Oh boy then you haven't been paying attention to what goes on down there. Which is apparently par for the course for many people who think that by simply closing our eyes to the problems our neighbors are having that it won't eventually end up affect us as well. Good question about where the funding is for these courts because the Democrats have clearly indicated they're in favor of it. Think about this too. Revenues from corporate taxes is down 95 billion from last year. just 5% of that would easily cover Mt Trump's demand for his wall. Which Mexico was suppose to pay for, but isn't.
 
Good the American people will realize Pelosi and Schumer just hypocrites.

Cue the circus music... :whothere:
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I never said that.

Yes you did. Your post, which started this exchange, was about how they want people to become citizens to vote.

As I said already, they want to make them citizens so that they can vote, understand? Getting them in here needs to be done first, as they are fighting for now.

Exactly why they want Texas.

You're not following along very well, if you are asking a question like that.
 
You think Mexico is safe for those people? Oh boy then you haven't been paying attention to what goes on down there. Which is apparently par for the course for many people who think that by simply closing our eyes to the problems our neighbors are having that it won't eventually end up affect us as well. Good question about where the funding is for these courts because the Democrats have clearly indicated they're in favor of it. Think about this too. Revenues from corporate taxes is down 95 billion from last year. just 5% of that would easily cover Mt Trump's demand for his wall. Which Mexico was suppose to pay for, but isn't.

That's not up for you to decide.
Obviously, thousands of immigrants who applied for asylum in MX. don't agree with you.
From the last caravan.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...-thin-out-as-3-230-apply-for-asylum-in-mexico
 
So in your anxiousness to defend Trump, you go back 30 years to make a point that Trump shouldn't compromise. Got it.

Nope, I am simply pointing out that promises by congress critters mean nothing. Let each bill pass or fail on its own merit.
 
The Democrats are going to change the Constitution to allow illegals to vote? When is that going to happen?

Texas is a great state. But it's only one of 50. And it's controlled by the GOP, not the Democrats.

By the way, is there something wrong with people wanting to come to this country to become citizens?

What change to the Constitution? As President Obama informed all non-citizens in the USA, to vote all they have to do is have registered and then go vote. No one is going to stop or question them. Anyone can get a voter registration card and vote, there is no policing or verification process in most states.
 
Good the American people will realize Pelosi and Schumer just hypocrites.

Yep, like many long time congress critters from safe states/districts. The fact that those with no ability to vote them out of office hate them makes no difference at all.
 
Sure if you want to ignore that fact that the Border Patrol says that walls work, and THEY NEED THEM.

You mean, improving border security could be better done by spending on things such as, you know, border security. But nice attempt at the word-twisting. :)
 
What, exactly, is stopping demorats from proposing and funding those measures now? Why is a border fence (deemed moral and fully supported by demorats) any less insulting (or immoral?) than a border wall (which is nothing but a taller fence)?

They were open to providing a lot of money. He could’ve easily used that money to build a fence or on other measures. And he was ready to do so. But then Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter express their displeasure, and that’s when Trump backtracked. After all, they are the ones really running this country. Trump does what they say.
 
They were open to providing a lot of money. He could’ve easily used that money to build a fence or on other measures. And he was ready to do so. But then Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter express their displeasure, and that’s when Trump backtracked. After all, they are the ones really running this country. Trump does what they say.

Keep tuning in to MSNBC or CNN - they know all of the inside story.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/t...n-bill-without-border-wall-funding-2018-06-15
 
What change to the Constitution? As President Obama informed all non-citizens in the USA, to vote all they have to do is have registered and then go vote. No one is going to stop or question them. Anyone can get a voter registration card and vote, there is no policing or verification process in most states.

Pleas provide a video of Barack Obama telling non-citizens to go register to vote.
 
Apparently you haven't noticed that number of people being arrested at the border as steadily and dramatically decreased since 2000. So obviously some of what we have done is working and while there is still room for improvement it's quite clear that there is no immigration crisis at our southern border.

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When was the Secure Fence Act passed again? Oh, that's right, 2006.
 
I'll take you seriously when I see you correct anyone else. In the mean time, they are the Democrat party because there is little within their party structure that is democratic.

Then let's start calling the other side the Rethuglican party.

Sorry, jmotivator, but your childish games no longer hold any water.
 
Pelosi and Schumer better not hold up my tax refund over politics.

That would be trump and mcconnel who are doing so.
 
The Republicans controlled the House, Senate and Oval Office until last week. If that was their concern, then they should have changed the way the census is managed.

Illegals still can't vote. That's a fact. And the Democrats know that.

Human beings aren't illegal, Tres.

Every other word in your post is correct.
 
Human beings aren't illegal, Tres.

Every other word in your post is correct.


If you come to our country illegally you are an illegal just as a person who commits crimes are criminals.
 
If you come to our country illegally you are an illegal

No. You're wrong. Human beings themselves are not literal violations of the law.
 
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