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    Re: Networks to air Pelosi, Schumer rebuttal to Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Well, since you asked, I'm actually for keeping the illegals that are already here provided that they register with authorities within 6 months, begin the legal process of becoming either a US citizen or permanent resident, (something I had to do back in 1998), undergo a background check to see if they have committed any crimes of turpitude, and if not, be given a free and clear path. Of course those that have committed crimes will not register, and thus an incentive to those that are trying to gain citizenship will be given a "fast-track", free ride if they give information leading to the arrest of illegals that have committed crimes, upon a conviction. Those that have committed crimes deported immediately if they've answered for those crimes, and served time, but for those that have not, they will have to serve their time and then be deported.

    I'm under the assumption that MOST illegals, notwithstanding the initial crime of entering here illegally, are good people, willing to work hard for themselves and their families, and I think most American's acknowledge this, and they SHOULD have a way to be able to stay. What we don't want, and what we need is a way to find the really bad illegals, and this approach solves that problem over time.


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    Of course those who commit crimes should be deported. I don't know who would argue with that.

    So you support a path to citizenship then?
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    Re: Networks to air Pelosi, Schumer rebuttal to Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    And your plan for getting rid of the illegals who are already here is what?

    No, the Dems don't own the shutdown. Trump does, unless you're calling him a liar? The rest of us heard him say he owns it.
    He owns it only in as much as he ran on it.. Ya know, building a wall, and it got him elected. It was kinda his thing, if memory serves..

    What he doesn't own, is the dems willingness to keep the border unsecured over political hatred of him. The government has been promising to secure the border for about as long as I have lived, and done nothing tangible to accomplish this over that time. Trump, said, ok, well, this TIME, it's going to get done. No more promises of give us what we want now and we'll think about it later. The wall or no deal!

    That's on the dems!

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    Re: Networks to air Pelosi, Schumer rebuttal to Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I asked you to clarify your comment, which I quoted again for you, about the Democrats wanting people to become citizens. We were talking about people, you know. Not dogs or rice. People. Did that confuse you?

    You're against illegal immigration? Gee, I wouldn't have known that. Most everyone else is too, unless you can find evidence of someone on here or anywhere else saying "I encourage people to sneak over our borders". If so, please do it. Otherwise it was a stupid point, wasn't it? Because nobody was making any point that illegal immigration is swell, although I will admit that most people don't tinkle in their panties about it the way you Trump lovers do. Are you afraid of losing your toilet cleaning job to an illegal, Anthony? Is that why it worries you so much?

    Simpletons? Who are these simpletons you speak of?
    Wow, you don't even break character. Very good. You just stay in it, pretending you don't know the meaning, all kind of innocent... gee willickers, no one wants illegal immigration (LOL)! Because, it must be stated explicitly, or else good 'ole Tres has no idea!
    Okay, i get it. You stick with it, don't look directly at the camera.
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    Re: Networks to air Pelosi, Schumer rebuttal to Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Of course those who commit crimes should be deported. I don't know who would argue with that.

    So you support a path to citizenship then?
    I do, it's the only way to solve this. We can't deport entire families, and most American's, conservatives know this. It's not right, even the President understands this. much of this problem on illegal immigration is his inability to acknowledge this and articulate where he stands with regard to those that are here already. he allows the dems to paint the narrative that he's against everyone here illegally, but he's not. only the ones that are a threat or have committed crimes are the one's he wants out, and to stem or completely stop any others from coming in, in the future.


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    Re: Networks to air Pelosi, Schumer rebuttal to Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    He owns it only in as much as he ran on it.. Ya know, building a wall, and it got him elected. It was kinda his thing, if memory serves..

    What he doesn't own, is the dems willingness to keep the border unsecured over political hatred of him. The government has been promising to secure the border for about as long as I have lived, and done nothing tangible to accomplish this over that time. Trump, said, ok, well, this TIME, it's going to get done. No more promises of give us what we want now and we'll think about it later. The wall or no deal!

    That's on the dems!

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    No, he owns it because he announced it in front of the cameras in December. He didn't run on the shutdown.

    Yes, he did run on the wall - the one he promised Mexico would pay for, if memory serves.
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    Re: Networks to air Pelosi, Schumer rebuttal to Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Wow, you don't even break character. Very good. You just stay in it, pretending you don't know the meaning, all kind of innocent... gee willickers, no one wants illegal immigration (LOL)! Because, it must be stated explicitly, or else good 'ole Tres has no idea!
    Okay, i get it. You stick with it, don't look directly at the camera.
    So who are the simpletons? And do you have some names of people who want increased illegal immigration or not?
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    Re: Networks to air Pelosi, Schumer rebuttal to Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    No, he owns it because he announced it in front of the cameras in December. He didn't run on the shutdown.

    Yes, he did run on the wall - the one he promised Mexico would pay for, if memory serves.
    Are you being intentionally obtuse, tres? Serious question.

    Ok, yes he said Mexico would pay for it.. Ok, well I think most of us knew deep down that probably wouldn't happen but we still elected him anyway. He wasn't elected because he said Mexico would pay, he was elected because he promised a wall.. How that gets done isn't nearly as important as will it get done!


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    Re: Networks to air Pelosi, Schumer rebuttal to Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Are you being intentionally obtuse, tres? Serious question.

    Ok, yes he said Mexico would pay for it.. Ok, well I think most of us knew deep down that probably wouldn't happen but we still elected him anyway. He wasn't elected because he said Mexico would pay, he was elected because he promised a wall.. How that gets done isn't nearly as important as will it get done!


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    So his flip-flopping on who would pay for the wall doesn't matter?
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    Re: Networks to air Pelosi, Schumer rebuttal to Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    hmm I don't recall anyone saying that.
    Then you didn't watch trump's speech last night.
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    Re: Networks to air Pelosi, Schumer rebuttal to Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Are you being intentionally obtuse, tres? Serious question.

    Ok, yes he said Mexico would pay for it.. Ok, well I think most of us knew deep down that probably wouldn't happen but we still elected him anyway. He wasn't elected because he said Mexico would pay, he was elected because he promised a wall.. How that gets done isn't nearly as important as will it get done!


    Tim-
    I'm not being obtuse. Did Trump say on camera or not that he wanted this shutdown and he would take full ownership of it?

    I like how everyone knew he was lying 92 times when he said Mexico would pay for the wall, after the fact. Maybe you and the others who "elected" him should have challenged him on it when he lied - 92 times. Forgive me for doubting that you didn't really believe it.
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