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    Re: Networks to air Pelosi, Schumer rebuttal to Trump

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    Why? Are they unwilling to compromise?
    Why, yes, yes they are not willing to compromise. If you look at the history, there was a deal given that would have let Trump have the full 25 billion in return to some DACA issues, and that got ripped away by Trump in specifically, and McConnell followed suit. Trump is doing a lot of posturing..and because of his statements, he has made it quite clear that it's his shutdown....
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    Re: Networks to air Pelosi, Schumer rebuttal to Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I didn't say anything about people coming here illegally. I'm talking about people who want to be US citizens. Why shouldn't anyone on Earth become a US citizen if they will be a productive, contributing member of society? Which people do you want to prevent being citizens, besides people who sneak over the border?
    There are limits, right? I don't want people coming here that intend to hurt this country. And, of course, it depends on what amount of people we want to come here.
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    Re: Networks to air Pelosi, Schumer rebuttal to Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    There are limits, right? I don't want people coming here that intend to hurt this country. And, of course, it depends on what amount of people we want to come here.
    Nobody wants people to come here that will hurt our country. Including those dreaded horrible Democrats.

    Everyone who wants to be a productive member of society should be able to come to this country and become a citizen.
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    Re: Networks to air Pelosi, Schumer rebuttal to Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Nobody wants people to come here that will hurt our country. Including those dreaded horrible Democrats.

    Everyone who wants to be a productive member of society should be able to come to this country and become a citizen.



    That's a bunch of crap. they don't care as long as they think they can use the issue to win.
    You should try to remember, ideas are conveyed by researching information, vetting sources, and confirming said information. Not by regurgitating talking points given to you by your "news" station.
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    Re: Networks to air Pelosi, Schumer rebuttal to Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by jdog21 View Post
    Crime & gang violence are not reason for asylum, a lot of countries are F'd up but you get asylum for fleeing from persecution from your government. So once in another country like Mexico you no longer are in fear of your government persecuting you their for you're safe. You have to apply the international law for whats considered safe to refugees instead of looking at it through US eyes of what you perceive may be a crime riden country.
    Crime and gang violence is not what they are fleeing from? You obviously have no clue what is going on down in those Central American countries then.

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    Re: Networks to air Pelosi, Schumer rebuttal to Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    You're the one who has an issue with people becoming citizens. Not me.

    I never suggested that everyone on Earth should be a US citizen. That was, as Phys said, your strawman.
    You are quite the source of amusement, that's why I even bother engaging you on your journeys. It's always interesting on how you will misdirect and respond to a post.

    I must say, you are very good at it. Like this post here. You are the one that asked about "people" coming here, right? Of course you don't respond to my question about who you are talking about with that term. Instead, you actually act as if it was I that asked using that very generic term.

    You make the statement that I have an issue with people becoming citizens, as if that is a bad thing. Of course, you must be aware I don't want people coming here illegally and becoming citizens, but you ask anyway. You goal is to twist it around as if I don't want anyone becoming a citizen. Well done! Of course, you are not fooling me, but there are simpletons here that lap it right up.

    I could go on, and on, but that's all I want to expose at this point.

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    Re: Networks to air Pelosi, Schumer rebuttal to Trump

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    Re: Networks to air Pelosi, Schumer rebuttal to Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    I must've missed where he was declaring brown people were coming to kill us and chop our heads off.



    hmm I don't recall anyone saying that.
    You should try to remember, ideas are conveyed by researching information, vetting sources, and confirming said information. Not by regurgitating talking points given to you by your "news" station.
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    Re: Networks to air Pelosi, Schumer rebuttal to Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Nobody wants people to come here that will hurt our country. Including those dreaded horrible Democrats.

    Everyone who wants to be a productive member of society should be able to come to this country and become a citizen.
    Okay, so back to the little game...

    No, of course everyone who wants to become a productive member of society shouldn't be able to come in. That's silly. we decide who comes in, it's not an unlimited amount.
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    Re: Networks to air Pelosi, Schumer rebuttal to Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by ataraxia View Post
    I think the problem a lot of Democrats up with this wall is not about enhancing border security. Most experts on the subject ( I know conservatives hate experts, but still) are telling us that the resources could be much better spent in other ways, like aerial surveillance, motion detectors, etc.... if you really think there is such a serious problem at the border, which is questionable, these might be better use of resources. Trump may find that the Democrats would be more open to such measures than just a giant wall.

    So what’s wrong with a wall? Well, as explained above, experts are telling us it’s not the most effective use of our resources. But more than that, it’s deeply offensive. Symbolically, it is a very insulting thing to do to our largest trading partner, not to mention the rest of South America. It’s good to not insult the entire planet. This wall is the symbolic equivalent of a giant middle finger stuck out to all of Central and South America, and probably just as effective in getting the actual work done.
    I think a lot of people are missing the point of the wall. The problem with illegal immigration is not catching them once they arrive, which is what all this "enhanced security" nonsense is about, the wall prevents them for getting here at all. Costs go down dramatically if we can keep them out in the first place. Keeping them out with a wall, will pay for itself immeasurably over time, so much so that resources that are otherwise now being spent on processing these illegals, will now be better spent on the problem we have with the illegals that are already here.

    It's simple math, and it's also a good idea to secure the border with a wall. They work, they've worked for millennia, and they work when we build them around our homes.

    IMO, the democrats picked the wrong fight with Trump, overall most American's want to prevent illegal immigration, the numbers have remained consistent for decades now, hovering around 63%.

    We need the wall, Trump knows it, I know it, and I think he totally made the dems own this shutdown last night!


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