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    Re: Networks to air Pelosi, Schumer rebuttal to Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    I don't know, what is wrong with people wanting to become citizens? Is there anything wrong with people wanting to come here and get benefits, handouts, or commit crimes and kill people? Are you good with those people coming here too?
    I don't even understand your second question, since it isn't even remotely related to what I asked you, and it's silly childish hyperbole.

    So let me try this again. You seem very upset that people (Democrats?) want non-citizens to become US citizens. Why is that?
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    Re: Networks to air Pelosi, Schumer rebuttal to Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by ataraxia View Post
    I think the problem a lot of Democrats up with this wall is not about enhancing border security. Most experts on the subject ( I know conservatives hate experts, but still) are telling us that the resources could be much better spent in other ways, like aerial surveillance, motion detectors, etc.... if you really think there is such a serious problem at the border, which is questionable, these might be better use of resources. Trump may find that the Democrats would be more open to such measures than just a giant wall.

    So whatís wrong with a wall? Well, as explained above, experts are telling us itís not the most effective use of our resources. But more than that, itís deeply offensive. Symbolically, it is a very insulting thing to do to our largest trading partner, not to mention the rest of South America. Itís good to not insult the entire planet. This wall is the symbolic equivalent of a giant middle finger stuck out to all of Central and South America, and probably just as effective in getting the actual work done.
    A wall is offensive??? Is a border offensive too? What about immigration laws? They are all meant to keep people from entering the country illegally. Sorry, that's completely ridiculous.
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    Re: Networks to air Pelosi, Schumer rebuttal to Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I don't even understand your second question, since it isn't even remotely related to what I asked you, and it's silly childish hyperbole.

    So let me try this again. You seem very upset that people (Democrats?) want non-citizens to become US citizens. Why is that?
    I never said that.
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    Re: Networks to air Pelosi, Schumer rebuttal to Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    So you agree that Reagan t5ried to compromise, which is exactly what I said.

    What has Trump offered to the Democrats in return for his big beautiful wall?
    Nothing, which is just what Reagan got.
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    Re: Networks to air Pelosi, Schumer rebuttal to Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by jdog21 View Post
    Your right that for the process to take place they have to be granted asylum. But getting asylum provides them with a quicker path to a green card then through or immigration process and places another obstacle on the system when trying to only let in certain amounts of people due them giving out regular green cards and then having to add all the asylee's on top of it.'

    With a current back log of more then 5,000 where is the funding for more courts and judges to process all these people?

    As far as making us look, most countries go by internal law which would require all asylum seekers to be forced to ask for asylum in the nearest safe country, so for these central American people that would be Mexico and not the US. So I think we'd still look good.
    You think Mexico is safe for those people? Oh boy then you haven't been paying attention to what goes on down there. Which is apparently par for the course for many people who think that by simply closing our eyes to the problems our neighbors are having that it won't eventually end up affect us as well. Good question about where the funding is for these courts because the Democrats have clearly indicated they're in favor of it. Think about this too. Revenues from corporate taxes is down 95 billion from last year. just 5% of that would easily cover Mt Trump's demand for his wall. Which Mexico was suppose to pay for, but isn't.

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    Re: Networks to air Pelosi, Schumer rebuttal to Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by SLC View Post
    Good the American people will realize Pelosi and Schumer just hypocrites.
    Cue the circus music...

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    Re: Networks to air Pelosi, Schumer rebuttal to Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Nothing, which is just what Reagan got.
    So in your anxiousness to defend Trump, you go back 30 years to make a point that Trump shouldn't compromise. Got it.
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    Re: Networks to air Pelosi, Schumer rebuttal to Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    I never said that.
    Yes you did. Your post, which started this exchange, was about how they want people to become citizens to vote.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    As I said already, they want to make them citizens so that they can vote, understand? Getting them in here needs to be done first, as they are fighting for now.

    Exactly why they want Texas.

    You're not following along very well, if you are asking a question like that.
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    Re: Networks to air Pelosi, Schumer rebuttal to Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Atomic Kid View Post
    You think Mexico is safe for those people? Oh boy then you haven't been paying attention to what goes on down there. Which is apparently par for the course for many people who think that by simply closing our eyes to the problems our neighbors are having that it won't eventually end up affect us as well. Good question about where the funding is for these courts because the Democrats have clearly indicated they're in favor of it. Think about this too. Revenues from corporate taxes is down 95 billion from last year. just 5% of that would easily cover Mt Trump's demand for his wall. Which Mexico was suppose to pay for, but isn't.
    That's not up for you to decide.
    Obviously, thousands of immigrants who applied for asylum in MX. don't agree with you.
    From the last caravan.
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...ylum-in-mexico

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    Re: Networks to air Pelosi, Schumer rebuttal to Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    So in your anxiousness to defend Trump, you go back 30 years to make a point that Trump shouldn't compromise. Got it.
    Nope, I am simply pointing out that promises by congress critters mean nothing. Let each bill pass or fail on its own merit.
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