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Kevin Spacey: Actor charged with sexual assault in Massachusetts

Tom Horn said:
Sounds like a gay bar, and Kevin saw this hooker and she/he accepted Kevin’s drinks. Remember when in Milwaukee the cops gave Jeffery his boy-toy back? Even though he was stark naked and bleeding from his rectum?
If the minor hadn’t wanted to be assaulted, he/she shouldn’t have accepted Kevin’s proposal.
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What the ****.
 
Idiometer said:
Slut shaming and victim blaming ... the go-to response of knuckle-draggers.

So, if you were this kid, and a famous actor was trying to seduce you, and ended up forcing you (yes, we're talking rape here), it's your fault because you drank the drink he offered?

I don't know who this Jeffrey is that you brought into the conversation, but in ALL cases, no means no, dude. I pity the women in your life, if there are any. By your post, I suspect an incel.
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I think he meant Jeffery Dahmer. But that makes his comment even more despicable.
 
ThoughtEx. said:
What the **** is wrong with Kevin Spacey, it's got to be a sickness of the mind, he should not have problems picking up men for consensual sex.

But, having bought a few women in bars drinks, I can say, I wasn't exactly carding them. I expected the guy at the door to do that...
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Rape is not about sex, it's about power. He's not after sex. He's after perceived power.
 
American Beauty should be remade. That film should not just die like this.
 
Idiometer said:
Wow. So if Spacey is found guilty of assault in a criminal court, you still think it's all about money? Huh
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Yes, absolutely. Makes it so much easier to prove the civil case. Perhaps you are one of those people who always read in the word "only" even when it isn't written.
 
Superfly said:
Agreed, and it breaks my heart in two to say that, because I was always, always a huge fan of Spacey. :( :(
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Same. I liked a lot of his movies.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
You clearly have a fundamental misunderstanding of what a victim is....there is a victim of Kevin Spacy only if he did something wrong...the claim of being a victim does not a victim make.
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Not so much with the misunderstanding, but nice try. That is how one is referred when they claim to be the victim of a crime. Spacey is not a victim unless he actually defends himself successfully. So far, all he's done is make me (a fan) feel like he is an ass.
 
This smells more like a mother or father that can't admit that their son is gay. The MAN is 18, he can vote and die for his country but it is his mother that is coming with the accusation..?

And before any says stop defending Spacy and blaming the victim..if Spacy is a predator then charge him. But don't automatically belive the victim, especially when the mother is leading the charge...

Would not be the first time parents have accused men of sexual assault when in fact the two were lovers and the parents disapproved of the relationship. US law on this has been massively abused by Conservative and religious types over the years.

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And there you have it folks. If you were down range and collecting lead, and you got shot, it’s not your fault. You can do anything you please with zero consequences.
 
PeteEU said:
This smells more like a mother or father that can't admit that their son is gay. The MAN is 18, he can vote and die for his country but it is his mother that is coming with the accusation..?

And before any says stop defending Spacy and blaming the victim..if Spacy is a predator then charge him. But don't automatically belive the victim, especially when the mother is leading the charge...

Would not be the first time parents have accused men of sexual assault when in fact the two were lovers and the parents disapproved of the relationship. US law on this has been massively abused by Conservative and religious types over the years.

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Again, this isn't a civil suit. The DA is prosecuting the case, and filing the charges. The mother of the victim has very little control over that. She just made the public statement on it. Although yes, he was 18 at the time, it's not difficult to see a mother fielding questions from the media for her son.
 
TheGoverness said:
This is victim-blaming on a disgusting level. I'm sorry, but if Kevin Spacey did this, should not be given any leniency because it "happened in 2016".
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I'm not letting the 'victim' off the hook either, not completely.

He was 18...correct? An adult who knew he was too young to be in a bar and drinking. Did Spacey know that someone in a bar was NOT of drinking age, how would he? (Even a 16 yr old in a bar knows he's not supposed to be in there and drinking)

As for coercion for sex, well that's wrong but since the guy wasnt underage (for sex), do we know the circumstances of the actual assault?
 
Idiometer said:
So, if he raped this kid, that's okay, he's suffered enough? Is that seriously what you're saying here?
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Mr. Spacey supposedly put his hand down the young man's pants.

That is not "rape."

The hysteria whipped up by MeToo advocates has debased the word "rape."

That is an unforgivable insult to women (and men) who have been victims of genuine "rape."
 
Superfly said:
Man, some people on this forum really need to educate themselves on the after-effects of sexual assault before they open their mouths.
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I agree that "some" people on this forum really need to educate themselves on the FACTS of the case in question before they open their mouths.
 
dcsports said:
Again, this isn't a civil suit. The DA is prosecuting the case, and filing the charges. The mother of the victim has very little control over that. She just made the public statement on it. Although yes, he was 18 at the time, it's not difficult to see a mother fielding questions from the media for her son.
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And it would not be the first time a DA pushed prosecution for personal political reasons or went ahead with charges based on poor investigate work.

The man was 18 in what I suspect is a gay bar. Yes you have those idiotic drinking laws, but we both know that fake ids exist and unless the man is special in someway...think Tom Cruise never aging, the chances no one could tell the difference between an 18 year old or 24 year old.

And the very fact that it is the mother and not the supposed victim that is the public face makes this case stink.

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Idiometer said:
Sometimes I think it has to be personally experienced. So many people lack empathy with things they don't understand.
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You could be right. But damn - it wouldn't take someone having a limb amputated for me to feel sorry for them, or believe that they have an injury. :(
 
Idiometer said:
Me, too. Such a gifted actor. Such a sad ending to a brilliant career.
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OMG, seriously. I have been a fan of Spacey's since he was in a movie called "Consenting Adults," which is a long-time favorite of mine from back in the early 90s. Loved him in "Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil." Also liked him as Bobby Darin in "Beyond the Sea." He did all his own singing.
 
Idiometer said:
Slut shaming and victim blaming ... the go-to response of knuckle-draggers.

So, if you were this kid, and a famous actor was trying to seduce you, and ended up forcing you (yes, we're talking rape here), it's your fault because you drank the drink he offered?

I don't know who this Jeffrey is that you brought into the conversation, but in ALL cases, no means no, dude. I pity the women in your life, if there are any. By your post, I suspect an incel.
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Jeffrey Dahmer.
 
AliHajiSheik said:
Yes, absolutely. Makes it so much easier to prove the civil case. Perhaps you are one of those people who always read in the word "only" even when it isn't written.
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No, I'm one of those people who think that rapists should be punished,
 
I was really disappointed to hear this because he has been one of my favorite actors, but the truth must be known.

The two year gap between reporting makes perfect sense to me. Do you think all traumatized people come forward right away? The majority of victims say nothing, they just try to go on with their lives.

A 16 year old in a bar? Happens all the time all over the place especially if you look older than your age. I just mean, it's not beyond reason. Maybe the mother should also sue the bar for letting him in, if she can prove he was there. Two year old security camera footage might be hard to come by.

The allegation alone will further ruin him and I don't have a problem with that since one of the previous ones was filmed by the victim while it actually happened.
 
Idiometer said:
No, I'm one of those people who think that rapists should be punished,
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Then spend more time swapping stories with someone who disagrees with you, that isn't me.
 
ThoughtEx. said:
What the **** is wrong with Kevin Spacey, it's got to be a sickness of the mind, he should not have problems picking up men for consensual sex.

But, having bought a few women in bars drinks, I can say, I wasn't exactly carding them. I expected the guy at the door to do that...
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I agree with you on the age issue. Part of the prosecution's case for supplying the young man with drinks is going to have to be that he knew the guy was underage. However, that doesn't excuse part 2 of the allegation - sticking his hand down the pants. Worth noting that the charge is felony sexual assault -- not providing alcohol to a minor.

It is interesting to see the defense of this allegation on the basis of 'he was 18 and in a gay bar, what do you expect?' I wonder how many of these people would have the same opinion if the gender was flipped. Make it a 57 year old man, met a young woman in a bar, 18 years old, just out of high school. The man, three times the young lady's age, knowing she's 18, buys her drinks to get her drunk, then sticks his hands up her skirt to grab her privates. Would they have the same opinion? It's 'expected - after all she's in a bar'?
 
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Northern Light said:
I was really disappointed to hear this because he has been one of my favorite actors, but the truth must be known.

The two year gap between reporting makes perfect sense to me. Do you think all traumatized people come forward right away? The majority of victims say nothing, they just try to go on with their lives.

A 16 year old in a bar? Happens all the time all over the place especially if you look older than your age. I just mean, it's not beyond reason. Maybe the mother should also sue the bar for letting him in, if she can prove he was there. Two year old security camera footage might be hard to come by.

The allegation alone will further ruin him and I don't have a problem with that since one of the previous ones was filmed by the victim while it actually happened.
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Not that it makes a difference, but it was reported within about a year. The incident was July 2016, and the mother made a statement in November 2017 when it became public. I could not find how much earlier the young man spoke to the police. The recent news is that he's being formally charged.

This isn't a 30 year old allegation that's just now being brought to light, but a relatively recent one.
 
TheParser said:
It happened in July, 2016.

Why is he (and his mother) suddenly so traumatized that he has to pile on an individual whose life has already been destroyed?

It seems to me that he (or, in reality, his mother) should have the decency not to cause Mr. Spacey more grief.
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Because that ****ing asshole Spacey needs to be held accountable, that's why.
Pathetic to see your post kissing his disgusting ass.
 
JacksinPA said:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46675194

US actor Kevin Spacey has been charged with sexually assaulting a teenager at a bar in Massachusetts.

He will appear in court on 7 January over the incident, which allegedly occurred in Nantucket in July 2016.
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According to the victim's mother during a TV interview last night, Spacey kept buying drinks for this 18-year old boy until he was drink, then at least attempted to violate him sexually.

Spacey is under investigation for alleged sex crimes in both in Europe & in CA.
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I'm so disappointed in Spacey, he was such a talent.

If he is found guilty, he must face the consequences.
 
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