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Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg has cancerous nodules removed from lung

JMR said:
I do not remember that being a consideration, but I'll take your word for it. I find that less frightening than Trump looking for a judge who sees expansive powers for the executive, and more importantly cover from the outcomes of his considerable criminal activity.
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Kavanaugh noted that he thought one of the reasons why 9-11 happened was because Clinton was distracted by the GOP jihad against him. So Kavanaugh was consistent on this issue.

The "considerable criminal activity" is speculation on your part at this point
 
JMR said:
The point is that the so called liberal faction has been shifted considerably to the right. Would you like her to become Alito's sidekick? How far right is far enough?
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I'd like justices who start cutting back the FDR nonsense on the commerce clause. that doesn't mean (as Scalia noted) issuing rulings that would cause massive social upheaval such as striking down SS, medicare etc. But rather striking down federal gun control laws, and preventing stuff like more laws akin to the AHCA.
 
Cardinal said:
Yes, because unless we can literally read your mind and hear you thinking "I am wishing for Ginsburg's death," then absolutely nothing is to be made of the post in which you licked your chops at the possibility of a third Conservative Justice appointment.

Your claim that you're not wishing for her death necessarily requires that everybody else have an IQ lower than oatmeal.
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No Trix is not wishing for her death, just that her illness causes her to retire so Trump can pick a new one. We've been through this, and she thoroughly denies wishing for a death.;)
 
TurtleDude said:
Kavanaugh noted that he thought one of the reasons why 9-11 happened was because Clinton was distracted by the GOP jihad against him. So Kavanaugh was consistent on this issue.

The "considerable criminal activity" is speculation on your part at this point
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Forgive me if I don't give much credence to Kavanaugh's thoughts on that matter. It has been well reported that the Clinton administration was VERY focused on Bin Laden, and that they provided the incoming Bush/Cheney team all information, and a warning...which was ignored as they (Bush/Cheney) wanted to go to Iraq, and not be bothered with other distractions. Why don't you remember this stuff?

The criminal activity is more than speculation on more than my part, but keep your fingers crossed. Maybe he'll get off scott free!
 
TurtleDude said:
I'd like justices who start cutting back the FDR nonsense on the commerce clause. that doesn't mean (as Scalia noted) issuing rulings that would cause massive social upheaval such as striking down SS, medicare etc. But rather striking down federal gun control laws, and preventing stuff like more laws akin to the AHCA.
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So if they support guns and oppose social programs they are A OK?
 
JMR said:
So if they support guns and oppose social programs they are A OK?
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that is a good start. and social programs is too vague a term though
 
JMR said:
The point is that the so called liberal faction has been shifted considerably to the right. Would you like her to become Alito's sidekick? How far right is far enough?
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I am not in any way arguing that she should shift further right, I am arguing you greatly exaggerating her conservative leaning. As yet, she has had no major shifts from her liberal colleagues. Just read what is there in the post, I am not trying to pick a fight, I just think you are exaggerating her incremental shift to the center over Souter, I do not believe her to even be as centrist as Kennedy, so comparing her to Alito is laughable.
 
Verax said:
If Mueller finds Trump to have colluded with the Russians his presidency will be illegitimate (it already partially is with the illegal hush payments). The only recourse at that point will be to dismiss all SC appointees and have them appointed with the new president in 2020.
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No, there's no such thing as an illegitmate presidency of the electoral college. No provision of the kind you speak of exists. to remove a SCOTUS judge takes impeachment.
 
DiAnna said:
What a horrible thing to say about a woman who has given her life to a cause she believes in, and done more to elevate women's rights in this country than anyone else I can think of. How cruel, how partisan, how disappointing.

To me, "feminist heroes" are rare and valuable, in a way that young males who haven't experienced the oppression and bullying over the decades cannot possibly understand, and apparently don't give a damn about. I lived through it; she is a hero to me, and has been for decades. It offends and pains me to see those who have absolutely no clue what kind of sexist garbage she grew up under, and so many of us grew up under, to fling out partisan platitudes as if Ginsberg and those like her hadn't opened the door for women to expand beyond iron-fist control of their husbands and male legislators in order to fight, and win, equality at a time when males were unwilling to part willingly with their power.

I literally have handbags older than you; I am thankful that my daughters and granddaughters will not grow up in the oppressive, sexist society that I survived.

She IS a "feminist hero", who has fought for women's rights longer than you and your parents have even been alive. If you cannot show respect at her myriad accomplishments, at least show some grace toward those who have suffered what she has suffered, and can thank her for the rights that their daughters will have because of her.
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I stand by what I've said. I don't believe RGB is an impartial judge looking to make fair rulings for Americans based on law. She's using her position to advance liberalism and her own ego. That's just my honest take on things. Such a judge is dangerous to the country. I admire and respect her work ethic, but I think she's a biased judge and her inevitable departure from the court will be a good thing for our country.
 
OpportunityCost said:
I am not in any way arguing that she should shift further right, I am arguing you greatly exaggerating her conservative leaning. As yet, she has had no major shifts from her liberal colleagues. Just read what is there in the post, I am not trying to pick a fight, I just think you are exaggerating her incremental shift to the center over Souter, I do not believe her to even be as centrist as Kennedy, so comparing her to Alito is laughable.
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My point, I'll only state it once more and then retire, is that the court has moved to the right (even at 4-1-4) over the last 20 years. I did not suggest that Kagan was a conservative, only that she is far less liberal than Stevens was. Alito was ridiculously more conservative than O'Connor who he replaced. The court has been moving right all along. We do not need the help of the Heritage Society to insure the continued drift.
 
JMR said:
My point, I'll only state it once more and then retire, is that the court has moved to the right (even at 4-1-4) over the last 20 years. I did not suggest that Kagan was a conservative, only that she is far less liberal than Stevens was. Alito was ridiculously more conservative than O'Connor who he replaced. The court has been moving right all along. We do not need the help of the Heritage Society to insure the continued drift.
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You state the court is moving right, well the court had been moving abruptly left for nearly a century, it was more than due to move right. Roberts has proven to be less than conservative at times and much more establishment statist, the ACA ruling alone points that out.
 
DiAnna said:
WTF?? :shock: I wasn't even on DP at the time Cheney had heart surgery as VP. How the hell did my name get brought into this? I certainly was shocked and saddened by Scalia's death, although the GOP refusal to allow Obama his constitutional right to bring a nomination and have it brought to the floor did not please me.

Why am I named here? I don't understand...
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To keep you out of it, because I don't know. WTF do people immediately jump to the wrong conclusion? IOW, not Dianna, because I don't know, but others did.
 
I think that RBG has lived a long, full life. Not many women can tout the accomplishments she has. Sorry to hear she has cancer, but if she is upset about the end of her life being tied to service, then maybe rather than acting politically and tying up the seat to ensure it stayed liberal, she should have thought of her own happiness, and retired 20 years ago....Or, maybe we should have term limits for these unelected overlords.
 
yankintx said:
Kinda low all these Righties cheering Ginsburgs illness.
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All? I'll cheer her retirement, not any illness that leads to it.
 
Arby said:
All? I'll cheer her retirement, not any illness that leads to it.
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She will stick it out until Trump is out of office in 2 years time. The results of the midterms are a clear indicator the majority of Americans find Trumps immaturity and erratic behavior unacceptable in a CIC.
 
j-mac said:
I think that RBG has lived a long, full life. Not many women can tout the accomplishments she has. Sorry to hear she has cancer, but if she is upset about the end of her life being tied to service, then maybe rather than acting politically and tying up the seat to ensure it stayed liberal, she should have thought of her own happiness, and retired 20 years ago....Or, maybe we should have term limits for these unelected overlords.
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Aren't they coming out with a movie about her life?
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4669788/
 
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OpportunityCost said:
You state the court is moving right, well the court had been moving abruptly left for nearly a century, it was more than due to move right. Roberts has proven to be less than conservative at times and much more establishment statist, the ACA ruling alone points that out.
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are you familiar with the observation concerning the leftward ratchet of jurisprudence? it started with the progressive era and really was seen during FDRs administration

leftwing judges ignore precedent and expand government power

conservative justices then respect that new precedent

leftwing judges then further expand the leftwing agenda

conservative judges then respect that precedent
 
yankintx said:
She will stick it out until Trump is out of office in 2 years time. The results of the midterms are a clear indicator the majority of Americans find Trumps immaturity and erratic behavior unacceptable in a CIC.
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that is certainly her goal. what happens in real life is hard to predict. If Trump wins reelection, I doubt RBG will be able to stop him from replacing her
 
yankintx said:
She will stick it out until Trump is out of office in 2 years time.The results of the midterms are a clear indicator the majority of Americans find Trumps immaturity and erratic behavior unacceptable in a CIC.
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The Republicans won the majority of State wide elections. Most of the House elections this cycle were in large cities where Democrats are stronger. The next cycle will have more House elections in the heartland where Republicans are stronger. Things may change in the House then.
 
trixare4kids said:
Ruth Ginsberg is resting comfortably after surgery to remove two nodules from her lung but at her age I have to wonder how long liberal judge Ginsberg can continue to serve the court.
Will she retire forcing Trump another opportunity for a nominee pick? I hope so.



Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg has cancerous nodules removed from lung

ETA: MODS please merge with Renae's thread in breaking news.
Thanks....
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She should retire, take care of her health and enjoy her grandchildren. However either way, I wish her good health.
 
trixare4kids said:
So what? If the tables were turned, don't be so naive as to believe that the Democrats wouldn't be doing the same....
One of the primary reasons I wanted Trump to win was because I believed he would get at least one supreme court pick... My dreams came true when he got two. Three is icing on the cake....
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As I recall, there were some libruls who celebrated Judge Scalia's death. In any case, I would love to see Trump get one more appointment(hopefully from an activist justice retiring, not dying).
Technically the court is majority conservative right now, however I do not trust Justice Roberts any further then I could throw him.
 
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